Mini 897 - OpenSource Mafia - Game over!!

Iecerint · Post Post #650 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 4:27 pm

Iecerint wrote:(After she's done so, please answer my question.)

SocioPath · Post Post #651 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:01 pm

Faraday wrote:Come on. Sociopath has been posting in other games, stop avoiding this one.

Ha.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #652 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:04 pm

I have very little time. Can someone please summarize what I need to answer to?

Iecerint · Post Post #653 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:10 pm

UncertainKitten wrote:
SSK wrote:#2. Maybe UK for being slightly dodgy
Dodgy? Could you elaborate?
SSK wrote:Because that would be a role based reason to vote him and thusly he's not on my list. And of course anyone who tries to undermine the truth is scummy.
Does your role PM confirm your sanity in such a way that you KNOW it's the truth?

That would take care of my question for you, too, which is whether your flavor implies sanity or whatever accounts for the 99% number.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #654 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:13 pm

Iecerint wrote:
UncertainKitten wrote:
SSK wrote:#2. Maybe UK for being slightly dodgy
Dodgy? Could you elaborate?
SSK wrote:Because that would be a role based reason to vote him and thusly he's not on my list. And of course anyone who tries to undermine the truth is scummy.
Does your role PM confirm your sanity in such a way that you KNOW it's the truth?
That would take care of my question for you, too, which is whether your flavor implies sanity or whatever accounts for the 99% number.

At #1. I just feel that UK is hiding too much. I don't know how.
At #2. It could not be the truth but I really think it is.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #655 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:15 pm

MafiaSSK wrote:
Iecerint wrote:
UncertainKitten wrote:
SSK wrote:#2. Maybe UK for being slightly dodgy
Dodgy? Could you elaborate?
SSK wrote:Because that would be a role based reason to vote him and thusly he's not on my list. And of course anyone who tries to undermine the truth is scummy.
Does your role PM confirm your sanity in such a way that you KNOW it's the truth?
That would take care of my question for you, too, which is whether your flavor implies sanity or whatever accounts for the 99% number.
At #1. I just feel that UK is hiding too much. I don't know how.
At #2. It could not be the truth but I really think it is.

Also for #2. IT's not really the flavor as much as my role implies my sanity

Iecerint · Post Post #656 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:18 pm

Then why aren't you, ye know, pushing for your presumed-legit guilty on Vaya?

MafiaSSK · Post Post #657 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:21 pm

Iecerint wrote:Then why aren't you, ye know, pushing for your presumed-legit guilty on Vaya?

UK didn't want to lynch either of us today QED I don't push for Vaya

Iecerint · Post Post #658 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:22 pm

w/e bro.

Still waiting on Phate.

AlmasterGM · Post Post #659 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:23 pm

SocioPath wrote:
Faraday wrote:Come on. Sociopath has been posting in other games, stop avoiding this one.
Ha.

Are you a mafia godfather like you were in Benmage's mini? Because if so, we can totally wagon you again. You can even tell your scumbuddies to initiate the bus. Just let us know.

Iecerint · Post Post #660 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:25 pm

(I am yelling at everyone post-game when Alma is scum btw.)

SocioPath · Post Post #661 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:57 pm

AlmasterGM wrote:
SocioPath wrote:
Faraday wrote:Come on. Sociopath has been posting in other games, stop avoiding this one.
Ha.
Are you a mafia godfather like you were in Benmage's mini? Because if so, we can totally wagon you again. You can even tell your scumbuddies to initiate the bus. Just let us know.

You sound bitter about that.
But that wasn't my doing.

Fishythefish · Post Post #662 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 11:33 pm

I'm sorry I'm not giving this game much time. I'll be able to get up to speed soonish, but right now I don't really know what's going on.

Faraday · Post Post #663 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:20 am

SocioPath wrote:
Faraday wrote:Come on. Sociopath has been posting in other games, stop avoiding this one.
Ha.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Won't be around for a bit, btw. I'm moving back to Uni after the christmas break etc, so you'll have to do without my angellic presence for a day or 2.

UncertainKitten · Post Post #664 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:56 am

SSK wrote:
At #1. I just feel that UK is hiding too much. I don't know how.
At #2. It could not be the truth but I really think it is.

We are at an impasse here. You and I have roles that we feel by their very nature are not going to lead to false results. I'm pondering whether it's worth it to check you at this point or if we should just lynch Vaya and see what happens.

Ok, fine, would a sanity issue adversely affect your result, SSK?

(Also, I would like to note that SSK is rather inconsistent here. He suspects me, but is giving up what he feels is a guilty on Vaya for MY results. I don't understand how this contradiction can resolve itself)

Iec wrote: (I am yelling at everyone post-game when Alma is scum btw.)

Even if we lynch him later?

Iecerint · Post Post #665 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:19 am

Nope, I won't yell at anyone if we lynch him later.

Phate has failed to answer my question, even though I reposted it this page. This annoys me, because I think claiming a mass claim on D1 is significant enough that it requires explanation. At first I thought he was holding out because he wanted to see if Pom would elaborate, but that's clearly not the case because he's posted since then, and he didn't even allude to her post.

Unvote; Vote: Phate

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Iecerint · Post Post #666 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2010 8:43 am

Oh. My bad. Faraday changed his avatar.

Unvote

, I guess. I'm waiting for the Pom/Phate interaction. Phate, please answer why you requested a massclaim when/if you're satisfied that Pom has nothing to add.

Phate · Post Post #667 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:15 am

Iecerint wrote:
Iecerint wrote:(After she's done so, please answer my question.)

Once she does, I will. She pointed out a few reasons why massclaiming early can be a bad idea. I didn't ask for a few reasons why massclaiming early can be a bad idea.

Phate · Post Post #668 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:16 am

Actually, I won't lead you on. I have no intention of answering your question, as the answer is role-related.

I would still like Pom's answer, though.

Iecerint · Post Post #669 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2010 11:20 am

Iecerint · Post Post #670 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2010 12:27 pm

I am not creative enough to imagine a town role that would actually lead an experienced player to believe that massclaim D1 was advisable. (I will elaborate on this later if asked, but I don't want to do so before Pom addresses Phate's question more fully.) I think Phate's just dodging a question he can't answer.

Vote: Phate

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Pomegranate · Post Post #671 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:05 pm

Phate wrote:
Iecerint wrote:
Iecerint wrote:(After she's done so, please answer my question.)
Once she does, I will. She pointed out a few reasons why massclaiming early can be a bad idea.
I didn't ask for a few reasons why massclaiming early can be a bad idea.

Then what did you ask for? I think that though it's different wording, it means the same thing as what you originally asked for.

Also, assuming you believe Sly to be a competent moderator, then your sig seems to contradict you.

Snow_Bunny · Post Post #672 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:09 pm

ISO'ed Phate. Out of 14 posts, only one bears content. And, we have the massclaim suggestion.

Active lurking plus asking for massclaim on D1 (and D2, btw). Seems like a good option now that we have not much.

[bUnvote, vote: Phate[/b]

Snow_Bunny · Post Post #673 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:10 pm

Fixed:

Unvote, vote: Phate

Also:

Mod: I'm going VLA until Tuesday.

Iecerint · Post Post #674 (ISO) » Sat Jan 09, 2010 1:11 pm

Pome, you said this yesterday:

Pomegranate wrote:
I don't have time to explain fully right now (due to my weekly V/LA).
Mass-claim is generally a bad idea in early game because once PRs are outed, then often they're killed soon after. Yes, we can coordinate our night actions better, but it's a trade off, because usually the mafia NK the PRs ASAP. That's the basic reason not to mass-claim early in the game.

1. Is your V/LA finished?
2. Do you intend to explain more fully?