Mini 901: Real Time Mafia (Over)

[zoraster]

12 Alive

Snow Bunny ( 1 ) DeathRowKitty
DeathRowKitty ( 6 ) manho TonyMontana Juls Annachie don_johnson Plumegranate
bigmc109 ( 0 )
don_johnson ( 0 )
Ellibereth ( 3 ) Snow Bunny bigmc109 Flareonage
Flareonage ( 2 ) Bogre Ellibereth
Plumegranate ( 0 )
Juls ( 0 )
Bogre ( 0 )
manho ( 0 )
TonyMontana ( 0 )
Annachie ( 0 )
No Lynch ( 0 )
Total Votes ( 12 )

With 12 alive, 7 needed to lynch.
Next Lynch Available at: January 9th 00:00 EST
Lynch Will Be: DeathRowKitty

[don_johnson]

i think neighbor should be revealed. they serve no purpose but to create wifom. by revealing the nieghbor we leave it up to scum to leave them alive as semi-confirmed. i'd like to know what the neighbor thinks and i'd also like drk to spill whatever info is contained in a quicktopic. if the drk flips town and there's a chance the neighbor is scum, then those reads and opinions could prove invaluable. thoughts?

[manho]

i don't think the neighbour revealing would give us anything valuable. the neighbour has the same probability to be scum as everyone has. unless DRK flip scum, the neighbour will very likely be town. it would be stupid for the 2 neighbour be the same scum team.

[don_johnson]

i don't think the neighbour revealing would give us anything valuable. the neighbour has the same probability to be scum as everyone has. unless DRK flip scum, the neighbour will very likely be town. it would be stupid for the 2 neighbour be the same scum team.

exactly. i'd like the nieighbor to claim. if drk flips scum then we have a confirmed townie. with a confirmed townie in the mix that leaves the decision up to the scum team as to whther or not to nk the confirmed townie or try and hit a powerrole. although, i guess in that situation scum would already know who the neighbor is and they could claim tomorrow.

if, however, drk flips town, we need drk to divulge the information in the quicktopic(assuming they have one) so that we are assured of getting genuine information. if drk dies as town, the remaining neighbor can manipulate the info anyway they want. that info could prove priceless in determining the neighbors alignemnt. there is no real benefit to the neighbor not claiming as they are

not confirmed

to be town unless drk flips scum neighbor.

[TonyMontana]

Though I want an Elli wagon, I will switch to DRK if needed.

Btw, Elli, yet another wagon just like that? It seems like you are going for "weak" targets. It's a shame you are looked "pro-town" by a few other players. :-/

It's a shame because you don't have the balls to go after someone if it's risky?

Yep, you're right. I don't have the balls. Though, it's disturbing to know that you are expecting a girls to have balls. Ewww...

Didn't say I expected it, merely pointed it out -.-

[Plumegranate]

We will both be V/LA from this afternoon until Saturday evening or so. We will be V/LA at this time every week.

[DeathRowKitty]

Well, since neither or my neighbors seems to care what I claim, I'm neighbors with Annachie and Snow_Bunny.

I seriously think one of them is scum and I've been flip-flopping over which one. I'm currently leaning Annachie. As a matter of fact,

Vote: Annachie

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As far as what was said, there's been nothing particularly important. One thing that concerns me though is that I said I wanted a wagon on CSL, not a lynch, which Annachie has since ignored.

Mostly the discussion has consisted of:

1. Me describing what I'm trying to do
2. Annachie responding and giving his take
3. Snow_Bunny not posting

Also, yay me for wording my post in such a way that you didn't realize there were 3 neighbors.

[don_johnson]

^^ interesting.

unvote

thoughts from the neighbors.

drk: what have your friends been talking about?

[don_johnson]

ebwop:

vote: annachie

just realized we have a choice here. do not AT ALL like the fact that pluemgranate is going to be v/la around every single deadline for lynch.

[Ellibereth]

Vote: Annachie

[zoraster]

farside22 replaces Bogre, who has gone nearly three days without posting or telling us he was V/LA. Thanks for your patience, and I think although replacements are annoying for everyone, that it will end in a more fun game for all involved.

[farside22]

deathrowKitty post 22 - where do you get these assumptions from?
Also if we lynch someone they are killed and if their town doesn't that help the scum if we just lynch, lynch, lynch with no information?

deathrowkitty post 28 - Our timing is 7 days and it hasn't even started. Pregame chat good. The mod even said all those votes would be FOS's

elibereth post 34 - your so crack me up. Bogre was correct about it being pregame. LOL post 35 LMAO now

anachie post 38 - why is too many ideas bad?

Elli post 29 - did scum hunting just go out the window because you have seven days plus pregame chat or something?

Plumegrante post 51 - so disagree to the nth degree. When there is a game with a 7 day deadline have more post, talking pregame and getting things going is more pro-town then those just lurkering under the shadows doing nothing.

CSL post 60 - I disagree that wanting a policy lynch is scummy. It's a null tell as I know one player I would policy lynch any game and it has nothing to do with allignment just a personal stance on how they play mafia and how poor it is and how much it hurts the town. (ext)

manho post 76 - clearly not reading the game.

juls post 89 - meh. talks about policy lynching comment but doesnt' talk about the pregame stuff.

Eli post 122 reads my mind on juls post
DRK post 124 - OMGUS! I really hate people who vote for themselves and this vote bothers me the most.

snow post 125 - so? Do we just let her go do to meta?

vaya post 131 - LOL why were there not more votes on kitty after this I can't tell yet.

Eli post 139 - why are you not voting for DRK upon realizing what vaya just pointed out?

post 144 tony - I could hug you

DRK post 166 - gut feeling for a person's post with nothing to back it up. Awesome story.


juls post 168 - have to say there is fact there. Can't argue that anna was deffinate OMGUS and comes on the wagon a bit late after being called out by DRK

plum post 173: Why do you state that Annachie isn't scum here? What makes you say this.

Snow post 175: What is this post even in regards to?

Annachie post 177: Way to avoid juls comment on you.

DRK post 192: The most redeaming post to date.

Snow post 196: meh it's at least a post of something but I don't really see anything that no one else didn't say before hand

bigmc109: I agree it's about finding scum not trying to quick lynch someone that doesn't get lynched and aparently (looked at DRK) outs players roles too.

bunny post 211: I'm hunting scum. What are you doing? Really? Where? You are? Could have fooled me thus far

juls post 219: Why is mal/CSL a backup choice for lynching?

snow post 221: policy lynching has pro's and con's. Day 1 looking for info and people are in a hurry to lynch for info and getting someone out of the game that is clearly anti-town no matter the alignment is better for the town in my view.

flare post 224: What the heck is with the OMGUS vote on drk?

snow bunny post 240: Let me get this straight you won't vote for a policy lynch but you will voted for DRK over elli for what reason exactly?

don post 278: Are we not better to wait for DRK flip before deciding to out the other neighbor? Either both neighbors are town or one is scum and the other is town.
If DRK is indeed scum then this gives a mafia a garenteed townie to kill (not included in this theory is doc, rb, or jk)


Question to annachie: Did you guys talk pregame, why the vote on you're neighbor?


Personally I was leaning on snow_bunny as scum in my read thru but the question to anna is important in my descision.

[farside22]

By the way I meant to say hi to everyone before my long post but I got interupted while at work.

[Ellibereth]

Ello farside.
I took DRK's vaya comment to be an obvious joke.
We have around 4 hours to switch this lynch to Annachie.

[Ellibereth]

BTW, something Annachie said in another game made me think he was scum here, but it's ongoing.

[farside22]

Ello farside.
I took DRK's vaya comment to be an obvious joke.
We have around 4 hours to switch this lynch to Annachie.

I did notice annachie avoiding the question possed by juls on his OMGUS vote on DRK.
I'm curious to hear his reason for his vote on DRK.

As for the joke it was a vote with a reason. It's hard to believe it was a joke at first because later he was confronted by the fact all Vaya did was confirm and just carry on like it was a joke.

[Ellibereth]

Question about neighbors:
Is two scum one town or all town possible configurations?

[farside22]

Question about neighbors:
Is two scum one town or all town possible configurations?

I typically see either all town or 1 scum with the others town. I think mirth did a game once where 2 scum where neighbors with one town. It's hard to say if there is another game out there like that.

[zoraster]

This is a reminder that the town will be able to lynch at midnight tonight, and the person (or no lynch) that last had a majority will be lynched.

[Annachie]

anachie post 38 - why is too many ideas bad?

Random and Pregame.

Annachie post 177: Way to avoid juls comment on you.

Bah, too many games with too many newbies. I mis-read as what is OMGUSing again.
Both of us probably, though I was presenting reasons and I'm not sure DRK was.

Farside, the first non set-up theory post (How many scum groups and such) was probably DRK and I on policy lynching started by me thinking I had attacked Elli too much for calling for one. Probably part of the answer above.

One thing that concerns me though is that I said I wanted a wagon on CSL, not a lynch, which Annachie has since ignored.

It's also in part what you wanted CSL policy lynched for.

I didn't want CSL policy lynched.

I beg to differ:

Chu chu chu!

Vote: Elli

Join our policy lynch wagon. It's more likely to get us somewhere than a wagon for Elli mixing up his games.

Policy lynching will net you my vote. Do not try it.

I'm on your policy lynch wagon. Do I get your vote for that?

Yea right, didn't want a policy lynch.
Btw, Plum's (I believe) was the most recent post on this retcon of yours. I've also posted your own posts calling for the policy lynch after your previous claim of not wanting one.

I also note that your in QT post about becoming serious and your in thread post about becomming serious, both of which didn't sound right btw, were on different days.
(QFT: "This is a serious vote." is the comment I took as becomming serious.)

Let alone wanting to policy lynch CSL for his actions in other games, then acting the same way yourself.

Change in play style, scum tell.
Retcon history, scum tell.
Random or silly play, anti-town.
Trying to get a bandwagon on yourself, anti-town.
Not claiming, despite being at L-1 twice, anti-town.
Managing to vote for both your neighbours, and out them. That can't be good for the town.

[Flareonage]

Managing to vote for both your neighbours, and out them. That can't be good for the town.

That's a good point

[Ellibereth]

DRK is town, Annachie is scum.
Assuming that the amount of town > scum in the neighborhood, DRK claiming and revealing his neighbors was the right thing to do. If DRK was scum, and he claimed such (when his lynch is looking already all but inevitable in face of the deadline), it would virtually confirm two members of the town after his flip.

We have 2 hours to get Annachie lynched.

[Ellibereth]

Damn it, we need 4 votes, probably not going to make it...

[Flareonage]

what time zone are we talking about? I have 5 hours til midnight

VOTE: ANNACHIE

I really hope you're right about this

[Ellibereth]

what time zone are we talking about? I have 5 hours til midnight

VOTE: ANNACHIE

I really hope you're right about this

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