A Roccisi Winter - Game Over

[tubby216]

answer why id rofl scummy???

[Cobalt]

Okay, wow. Much has become clear. Thanks much, rofl.

unvote vote TBM

Richard is next, though, Mr Lurking Is A Strategic Choice.

[RichardGHP]

Richard is next, though, Mr Lurking Is A Strategic Choice.

This is my third game and I am still confused as to why lurking is a definite scum-tell.

[Sopianae]

I haven't done any reading today, sadly, but rofl is awesome.

vote: TheButtonmen

I'm not sure if I can do any big amounts of reading in the near future, so I'd really appreciate if the following people were to give me a concise summary of Day 2 so far, including strategy discussion, scumhunting, wagons, and anything else you find relevant: Nuwen, Socrates, RichardGHP, Plum. No need for any quotes or links, I'll find them myself if needed.

[DrippingGoofball]

Richard is next, though, Mr Lurking Is A Strategic Choice.

This is my third game and I am still confused as to why lurking is a definite scum-tell.

As lurking scum, you should be exquisitely aware of all the advantages you are deriving from keeping a low profile. Unfortunately, we're on to that strategy of not implicating oneself while letting other players take the risks, and associated flak for wrong decisions.

For this you will die today.

I hope you understand now.

[DrippingGoofball]

BTW is there one mafia or two mafias in this game? Because I don't think Buttonmen would be scum with Richard.

[Cobalt]

BTW is there one mafia or two mafias in this game? Because I don't think Buttonmen would be scum with Richard.

Still unknown :S

[DrippingGoofball]

Still unknown :S

OK then, I say we go ahead and kill RichardGHP too.

But first, Buttonmen.

GO GO GO

MOAR VOATS

[roflcopter]

i would be satisfied with buttonmen and richard dying

[Cobalt]

what about tubby?

[Socrates]

I have a hunch about something, and until I can confirm it one way or the other, I am not comfortable lynching Richard today.

vote:The Buttonmen

[DrippingGoofball]

I am not comfortable lynching Richard today.

Drats. If you only knew how irrationally angry deliberate lurkers make me...

[Sopianae]

what about tubby?

I second this. Why does everyone seem to have forgotten his uncalled-for vanilla claim?

[ortolan]

Buttonmen is a good wagon, based on behaviour in rofl's qt and that he is another player who I don't recall hearing anything meaningful from all game. I wouldn't mind hearing his side of the QT interaction first though.

[RichardGHP]

Richard is next, though, Mr Lurking Is A Strategic Choice.

This is my third game and I am still confused as to why lurking is a definite scum-tell.

As lurking scum, you should be exquisitely aware of all the advantages you are deriving from keeping a low profile. Unfortunately, we're on to that strategy of not implicating oneself while letting other players take the risks, and associated flak for wrong decisions.

For this you will die today.

I hope you understand now.

That's assuming that I am actually scum, and you are assuming the worst. The strategy I use (lurking) is not exclusively to let others take the risks, but to allow me to look things over in my head and in RL days to come, offer my thoughts. Yes, in part, I lurk to avoid suspicion - because I want to stay in the game, even though I win with whatever team I'm on, even if I die. It's a habit I've picked up over my few games.

[tubby216]

Richard is next, though, Mr Lurking Is A Strategic Choice.

This is my third game and I am still confused as to why lurking is a definite scum-tell.

As lurking scum, you should be exquisitely aware of all the advantages you are deriving from keeping a low profile. Unfortunately, we're on to that strategy of not implicating oneself while letting other players take the risks, and associated flak for wrong decisions.

For this you will die today.

I hope you understand now.

That's assuming that I am actually scum, and you are assuming the worst. The strategy I use (lurking) is not exclusively to let others take the risks, but to allow me to look things over in my head and in RL days to come, offer my thoughts. Yes, in part, I lurk to avoid suspicion - because I want to stay in the game, even though I win with whatever team I'm on, even if I die. It's a habit I've picked up over my few games.

i throw the bs flsgg if you are lurking you are only serving yourself and not the town. thus you fail. thus you must be lynched.

[RichardGHP]

Richard is next, though, Mr Lurking Is A Strategic Choice.

This is my third game and I am still confused as to why lurking is a definite scum-tell.

As lurking scum, you should be exquisitely aware of all the advantages you are deriving from keeping a low profile. Unfortunately, we're on to that strategy of not implicating oneself while letting other players take the risks, and associated flak for wrong decisions.

For this you will die today.

I hope you understand now.

That's assuming that I am actually scum, and you are assuming the worst. The strategy I use (lurking) is not exclusively to let others take the risks, but to allow me to look things over in my head and in RL days to come, offer my thoughts. Yes, in part, I lurk to avoid suspicion - because I want to stay in the game, even though I win with whatever team I'm on, even if I die. It's a habit I've picked up over my few games.

i throw the bs flsgg if you are lurking you are only serving yourself and not the town. thus you fail. thus you must be lynched.

But it's only Days 1/2 and maybe three that I plan to lurk. After that, you might be able to expect more out of me.

Think about this: I might lurk partly to avoid suspicion, so that I don't get lynched, so that the town doesn't lose one of their own and thus is one vote stronger? Does that make sense?

I don't see how lynching a lurker is good, at least on D2.

[tubby216]

it is day two so now you die, enjoy

[DrippingGoofball]

But it's only Days 1/2 and maybe three that I plan to lurk. After that, you might be able to expect more out of me.

We've lynched enough players to overflow a medium sized morgue. I expect more out of you NOW. Or DIE.

Think about this: I might lurk partly to avoid suspicion, so that I don't get lynched, so that the town doesn't lose one of their own and thus is one vote stronger? Does that make sense?

It does NOT make sense. LOOK FOR SCUM - OR DIE.

I don't see how lynching a lurker is good, at least on D2.

It's a most excellent idea,

au contraire

my friend, this isn't just day 2, it's lynch #9 or something. It's like Day 9. You've lurked enough. We're going to kill you now.

[Cobalt]

Richard is next, though, Mr Lurking Is A Strategic Choice.

This is my third game and I am still confused as to why lurking is a definite scum-tell.

As lurking scum, you should be exquisitely aware of all the advantages you are deriving from keeping a low profile. Unfortunately, we're on to that strategy of not implicating oneself while letting other players take the risks, and associated flak for wrong decisions.

For this you will die today.

I hope you understand now.

That's assuming that I am actually scum, and you are assuming the worst. The strategy I use (lurking) is not exclusively to let others take the risks, but to allow me to look things over in my head and in RL days to come, offer my thoughts. Yes, in part, I lurk to avoid suspicion - because I want to stay in the game, even though I win with whatever team I'm on, even if I die. It's a habit I've picked up over my few games.

i throw the bs flsgg if you are lurking you are only serving yourself and not the town. thus you fail. thus you must be lynched.

But it's only Days 1/2 and maybe three that I plan to lurk. After that, you might be able to expect more out of me.

Think about this: I might lurk partly to avoid suspicion, so that I don't get lynched, so that the town doesn't lose one of their own and thus is one vote stronger? Does that make sense?

I don't see how lynching a lurker is good, at least on D2.

This is an extremely bad argument in several ways.
The number of lynches we are allowed per day is infinite. So far we have had 7 flips. That's a huge amount for a normal game. The resemblance between this game's Days and a standard game's Days are slim at best.
Lurking does not help town members avoid suspicion. It is a huge and widely accepted scumtell. Town members don't care about avoiding suspicion, they care about killing scum. The hypothetical benefits of not suspecting you because you are lurking are far outweighed by the suspicion you garner by lurking.
This is a 22 player game. The benefits of not contributing in hopes of living to endgame are much less than the benefits of contributing in the hopes of catching scum.

[Cobalt]

simul'd by DGB. How cuuuute~

[ortolan]

Richard I have no experience with your meta, but the problem for you is that your predecessor was actively scummy (or at least I feel he is). You can't just negate that to a null-tell by not posting at all (if anything that in itself would normally be scummy, although I'm prepared to give you leeway based on your lack of experience). So yer, post some scumreads please.

[roflcopter]

Richard is next, though, Mr Lurking Is A Strategic Choice.

This is my third game and I am still confused as to why lurking is a definite scum-tell.

As lurking scum, you should be exquisitely aware of all the advantages you are deriving from keeping a low profile. Unfortunately, we're on to that strategy of not implicating oneself while letting other players take the risks, and associated flak for wrong decisions.

For this you will die today.

I hope you understand now.

That's assuming that I am actually scum, and you are assuming the worst. The strategy I use (lurking) is not exclusively to let others take the risks, but to allow me to look things over in my head and in RL days to come, offer my thoughts. Yes, in part, I lurk to avoid suspicion - because I want to stay in the game, even though I win with whatever team I'm on, even if I die. It's a habit I've picked up over my few games.

kick the habit, or you will get policy lynched in every single game i ever see you in

[TDC]

Vote Count #1

TheButtonmen (5): DrippingGoofball, roflcopter, Cobalt, Sopianae, Socrates
RichardGHP (1: tubby216
roflcopter (1): TheButtonmen

Not Voting (6): populartajo, Nuwen, HowardRoark, Phate, ortolan, Plum

8 to lynch

RichardGHP has requested replacement.

[ortolan]

that is a good outcome