Damn, ABR beat me to the triple.
To be honest, I'm getting a mixed read from you, Jazzmyn--some of your comments are insightful, but others seem
very
nitpicky, as if you're stretching to find dirt on people.
Whew. This is gigantic. Answering your points on me:
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first post is 183, she comes in two days after the game has started and sets immediately about defending/buddying kpaca, and defending/buddying malp. How does Mina know that malp was “joking” when he voted for MM on page 1? Malp never said it was a joke and it wasn’t obvious that it was a joke.
*twitch* Buddying. That's...*takes a deep breath and counts to twenty, locks away weapons and sharp objects*...my very favourite scumtell. *plasters on Stepford Wife smile*
I'll give you that my quasi-defence of kpaca could be buddying (although I'd argue smart scum would buddy with an influential townie rather than an easy lynch target)...but malpascp? I questioned malp in the very same post. Since I was attacking MonkeyMan for leaving a bad vote on malp, obviously I'm forced to indirectly defend malp.
And Iecerint explained it
here, but if someone votes for the mod, says, "Dude, you can't vote for the mod!" to the next person to vote Grimmy, then says "I also voted for the mod" when the person accuses him of not reading his PM...well,
duh
. Obviously, it's a joke.
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calling out others (Dragons, Jazz) when she wasn’t here herself is pretty poor, too. At least I had participated by then and drew attention to a potential slip that nobody else had noticed.
1) I explained in 219 why I singled out you and DragonsofSummer. You were clearly paying attention to the thread, but your only thoughts were on a typo. Sure, your question was reasonable...but my problem was that it was the ONLY thing you bothered to comment on. It's a very safe, easy point that makes you look helpful, but doesn't risk anything or antagonize people. In my limited experience as scum, it's umpteen times easier to question someone on a detail like that than to fake a suspect list or a case.
2) You're doing the same thing I did to Sociopath (and in my case, I wasn't questioning his alignment, just being a surly bitch). Ad hominems don't refute an argument. My coming late doesn't invalidate my criticisms of non-contributors/active lurkers.
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206 is poor too, as she relies on “didn’t the other players say that you’re a chronic lurker?” in order to call Socio a “pot calling the kettle black” and that’s pretty disingenuous for a couple of reasons: 1) “the other players” didn’t say that; rather a couple of other players said that – she’s inflating it to make it sound like everyone in the game said that when it wasn’t the case; 2) she’s purporting to rely upon it without bothering to find out if it’s true; and 3) she’s using it in a tu quoque manner. Personally, I don’t know if it’s true or not, having never played with Socio before (or anyone else in this game except for MonkeyMan and kpaca, I believe) but I would never rely upon someone else’s statement of alleged fact in that manner without verifying it for myself.
Most of your points on me were okay, but this one is just reaching. What nefarious motives would scum have for making it sound like every player thought SP was a lurker? Particularly since I didn't even say I suspected him? Obviously I meant that all the people who'd mentioned SP's meta said he was a lurker. Anyway, why shouldn't I take the word of several people on something as easy to verify as meta?
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has to retract a couple of things in her very next post (to her credit, she DID retract them, but it does show that she wasn’t reading very carefully at all, and it looks like she just jumped in to start defending/buddying without paying attention to much)
This should be an obvious null tell; townies and scum slip up on irrelevant details. In the same post, you made a couple of slips yourself:
1)
Says that Mordy hadn’t explained his vote, when he clearly had, and which if either
malp
or Mina had been paying attention, they would have known that Mordy was referring to Ray’s prior post
(emphasis mine)
It was kpaca who'd asked Mordy about his vote.
2)
In his post 171, he votes kpaca with weak reasoning (no meta, no gender selection, so he thinks kpaca’s an alt).
I asked him about this (interesting that you suspect me, but made similar points as me on MM), and MM already explained himself
here.
While I'm at it, speaking of not reading very carefully, your notes on MM skipped a lot of important stuff. Everything before his kpaca vote, all his interaction with me (you thought my slip-up was worth mentioning, but not my case on MM). Is there any reason you didn't mention that stuff? Were you just not paying attention? Did you find it irrelevant?
And since you seem to have ignored much of my back-and-forth with MM, what do you think of
this post by MM? MM also admitted to making a mistake--and only when called on it. Do you think MM is more likely to be scum because of that comment?
Ugh, I wanted to comment on a few of Mordy's earlier posts, but it's late and I have to wake up early. Maybe tomorrow.
