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Post Post #250 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:36 pm

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12 Alive
Snow Bunny ( 1 ) DeathRowKitty
DeathRowKitty ( 6 ) manho TonyMontana Juls Annachie Flareonage don_johnson
bigmc109 ( 0 )
don_johnson ( 0 )
Ellibereth ( 3 ) Snow Bunny Plumegranate bigmc109
Flareonage ( 2 ) Bogre Ellibereth
Plumegranate ( 0 )
Juls ( 0 )
Bogre ( 0 )
manho ( 0 )
TonyMontana ( 0 )
Annachie ( 0 )
No Lynch ( 0 )
Total Votes ( 12 )

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drk: i felt your self vote came well after the rvs. the pregame to this seemed more like an rvs than the actual start. i am confused on your stance of policy lynching CSL. if you were gambiting, what did your gambit tell you?

vote: drk


let's get that claim.
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Post Post #251 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:11 pm

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I suppose that's true, but you missed the point of my question. Why is self-voting scummy?

The point of my "gambit" was to get people discussing and to get a wagon started, even if that wagon had to be me. It worked.

It made me more suspicious of Snow_Bunny than I otherwise would have been. In retrospect, that was a stupid decision on my part.

I want to take another look at Annachie actually. Other than that, I want you to explain what's scummy about self-voting before I even think about claiming.
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Post Post #252 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:18 pm

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VOTE: Don_Johnson


There's no unvoting and I see no reason to lynch drk
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Post Post #253 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:20 pm

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DJ wrote:let's get that claim.
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Post Post #254 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:23 pm

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not necessary unless someone is ready to hammer. He is at L-2 now
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Post Post #255 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:25 pm

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Flareonage wrote:not necessary unless someone is ready to hammer. He is at L-2 now
Is DRK your scumbuddy?
SB has stated willingness to switch over.
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Post Post #256 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:27 pm

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Flareonage wrote:I was gonna vote CSL and then I realized that I'm CSL /fail

VOTE: DRK


Partly random, partly OMGUS
When you made the above post did you know that the person you were replacing was already voting for DRK.
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Post Post #257 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:33 pm

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I did not know that my vote was already there. I was just giving DRK the unofficial mafiascum welcome since he was the IC in my first game.

The one thing I learned is that quick lynches aren't good. I know it's been awhile for you guys but it's only been 1 or 2 days for me.
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Post Post #258 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:36 pm

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Flareonage wrote:
VOTE: Don_Johnson


There's no unvoting and I see no reason to lynch drk
If you've actually read the topic, you would see there is a lot of reason to lynch DRK. He started off the game anxious for a lynch and has really offered no reason for us to believe he's town despite being at L-1 (he is at L-1, right?). Also....this is kind of gut, but his play in this game does not at all match his play as town in the game I played with him.

It almost sounds like Flareonage is defending a scum buddy. If DRK flips scum I think I know where to look next.
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Post Post #259 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:55 pm

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Flare, where were you on reading the topic when you posted your first post here.
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Post Post #260 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:02 pm

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I skimmed through the whole thing. I didn't read every post carefully. That would take far too long
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Post Post #261 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:04 pm

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Flareonage. Do you think you learned much from your newbie game? You appear to have started this one differently.
I try not to sign things. It just encourages people.
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Post Post #262 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:05 pm

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Flare wrote:Partly random, partly OMGUS
Flare wrote:I was just giving DRK the unofficial mafiascum welcome since he was the IC in my first game.
Your reason behind the vote has changed.
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Post Post #263 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:19 pm

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I most likely am playing this differently for 2 reasons, 1. I replaced in and 2. Playing the other way got me lynched day 1

The partly random = the unofficial welcome

I figured you guys would figure out that it couldn't have been random if it was an OMGUS
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Post Post #264 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 5:59 pm

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This is Plum, brief notes on a brief reread.

SB gives me gut scum feelings, probably really null.

DRK's comment about what little Vaya had posted being scummy when Vaya
hadn't posted at all
is hella scummy.
Unvote; Vote: DRK
. The response is even scummier. Yes, you can argue that not posting during the pregame is scummy (I'll remain unconvinced it's not among the weakest of scumtells, but that's a different story). You cannot argue that Vaya's posted little and what she's posted was scummy if all she posted was "/confirm". That's the most null thing a player could possibly post. You didn't say his lack of posting was scummy; you said the actual provided content is scummy. Misrep and the backpedal-wimpiness + sudden vote on attacker is majorly scummy.

Bogre's defense of DRK in this is noted.
manho wrote:is a random lynch better than a no lynch?

if random lynch is better, then we should get someone over the lynching criteria first.
Is a Day influenced by having an easy default policy lynch/random lynch better or worse than a day without? I say potentially worse. Theory-wise, I disagree. I'd rather that our competing wagons are on people that others find scummy, not random players. Pretty sure this is a null policy disagreement, though.
DeathRowKitty wrote:Just the tone I got from it seemed scummy. I can see how you might disagree.
The tone of a neutral "/confirm"? You should also be voting Juls, Elli, and me; and Annachie's confirm was only different in that it had a period at the end. I'm calling BS. And DRK does acknowledge that his attack, which he portrayed as serious, was abso-freaking-lutely ridiculous. Annachie's case on DRK looks good on scan, too. This doesn't preclude Elli scum at all; this is just more strongly scummy. I find it weird that Elli votes Annachie with just "didn't like his post at all" and no indication of the actual scumtells he found.
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Annachie wrote:It's also in part what you wanted CSL policy lynched for.
I didn't want CSL policy lynched.
I beg to differ:
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SB wrote: Chu chu chu!

Vote: Elli
Join our policy lynch wagon. It's more likely to get us somewhere than a wagon for Elli mixing up his games.
CSL wrote: Policy lynching will net you my vote. Do not try it.
I'm on your policy lynch wagon. Do I get your vote for that?
Yar, scumbag. Even if it was just to stir the pot - no. Just no. It feels like an "I acted scummy to increase the info and get us out of the RVS" excuse, which is usually, as I indicated, an
excuse
.

To elaborate on the sparse stuff my sister gave: I for one don't read Malp as very scummy. I can understand someone reading the post in question that way, but I simply do not. It looks like something he thought was a legitimate scumtell on the part of DRK.

As the "other fruit" I still find Elli to be among the players in this game I suspect most upon one reread on Page 9.
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Flareonage wrote:I was gonna vote CSL and then I realized that I'm CSL /fail

VOTE: DRK


Partly random, partly OMGUS
Confirm Vote: Flareonage
Why do you read this as newb-scum as opposed to null-newb, please? Stupid =/= scummy (and I can't even tell that he's stupid, per se, any more than the average newbie).

SB's admission to not have the balls for real scumhunting, which amusing, makes me frown. Seriously. I'm a girl and my other fruit is a girl. We have the balls.

VOTE: DEATHROWKITTY

FOS: SNOW_BUNNY AND MAYBE ELLI
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Post Post #265 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:38 pm

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I guess it won't kill me

VOTE: Deathrowkitty


Mod note: Majority on DRK reached here. vote count is:

12 Alive
Snow Bunny ( 1 ) DeathRowKitty
DeathRowKitty ( 7 ) manho TonyMontana Juls Annachie don_johnson Plumegranate Flareonage
bigmc109 ( 0 )
don_johnson ( 0 )
Ellibereth ( 2 ) Snow Bunny bigmc109
Flareonage ( 2 ) Bogre Ellibereth
Plumegranate ( 0 )
Juls ( 0 )
Bogre ( 0 )
manho ( 0 )
TonyMontana ( 0 )
Annachie ( 0 )
No Lynch ( 0 )
Total Votes ( 12 )

With 12 alive, 7 needed to lynch.
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Lynch Will Be: DeathRowKitty
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Post Post #266 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:40 pm

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Plate wrote: DRK's comment about what little Vaya had posted being scummy when Vaya hadn't posted at all is hella scummy. Unvote; Vote: DRK. The response is even scummier. Yes, you can argue that not posting during the pregame is scummy (I'll remain unconvinced it's not among the weakest of scumtells, but that's a different story). You cannot argue that Vaya's posted little and what she's posted was scummy if all she posted was "/confirm". That's the most null thing a player could possibly post. You didn't say his lack of posting was scummy; you said the actual provided content is scummy. Misrep and the backpedal-wimpiness + sudden vote on attacker is majorly scummy.
LOL @ that. What do you think I meant when I said Vaya's posts were scummy? Even I wouldn't be stupid enough to think "/confirm" is scummy, town or scum. Or do you think I expected no one to notice? Either way, your reaction to my vote is almost as ridiculous as my vote was in the first place.
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Post Post #267 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:48 pm

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Okay, I believe I was just hammered. I am a
neighbor
. Not claiming anyone else as a neighbor until I've discussed it or the town decides it's in our best interest.
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Post Post #268 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:51 pm

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What took you 8 minutes?
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Post Post #269 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:53 pm

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RL+counting votes.
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Post Post #270 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:59 pm

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VOTE: Ellirebeth


I believe DRK
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Post Post #271 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:00 pm

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Neighbor can be scum too >.>
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Post Post #272 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:18 pm

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Now I'm confused!!! Lol
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Post Post #273 (ISO) » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:46 pm

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DRK has confused me from the start.
I try not to sign things. It just encourages people.
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Post Post #274 (ISO) » Fri Jan 08, 2010 3:20 am

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Plumegranate wrote: SB gives me gut scum feelings, probably really null.
Nah, you're reading it wrong. I am town, so adjust your reading accordingly.
Plumegranate wrote:SB's admission to not have the balls for real scumhunting, which amusing, makes me frown. Seriously. I'm a girl and my other fruit is a girl. We have the balls.
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Ah... It was a joke. My, I never thought someone would take that as seriously! I didn't even get what he was trying to say. I just ignored the comment and went for a joke. D:
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