899 FABLES- THE GRIMMAFIA GAME - The End. Mod Sucks.

[MordyS]

Why wouldn't you push someone for lying about a post restriction? That seems like a pretty anti-town thing to do. I mean, I guess I could understand someone faking a PR to have a bit more fun, and then refusing to back down out of some kind of misguided staunchness. But wouldn't that person deserve a little censure? Or at least a little pushing?

[kpaca]

Well, normally I would push, and I already said earlier they would draw my scrutiny, but I won't just vote them immedietly and yell about how they are scum. I'd have to hear their reasons and discuss that with them first.

[Iecerint]

Uhh, I don't think I was the first one to indicate that people may be "lying" about their PR. I certainly didn't take that sort of tone toward their behavior.

As I recall, you indicated that players who didn't have to rhyme shouldn't (implying that people were lying about their PR), and I suggested that they were perhaps rhyming to hide the real PR'd players who might have extra-fancy abilities and so on. This certainly implies "lying about a PR," but that incorrectly frames my attitude toward the hypothetical rhyme-feigners.

[kpaca]

I wasn't trying to incorrectly frame anything, it is exactly how you just restated it.

[Iecerint]

k.

[Jazzmyn]

I should add that I thought you were a tajo alt at first because of your

rolename,

which is why I thought your behavior was particularly odd.

Um, what?

Regards,
Jazz

[DragonsofSummer]

Holy crap! 3 pages about post restrictions and other such nonsense?

vote Jazzmyn

because I demand an rvs.

[Iecerint]

I thought kpaca was a play on alpaca, which is tajo's avatar and so on.

[kpaca]

I should add that I thought you were a tajo alt at first because of your

rolename,

which is why I thought your behavior was particularly odd.

Um, what?

Regards,
Jazz

That was a totally useless post considering that we are 3 pages in, dont' you think?

[Jazzmyn]

That was a totally useless post considering that we are 3 pages in, dont' you think?

Not at all. I wanted to know what Iecerint meant when he referred to your "rolename"; i.e. whether he was referring to your forum name or whether he slipped by referring to your rolename.

Regards,
Jazz

[kpaca]

Oh, totally missed that he said rolename and not username.

[Jazzmyn]

Oh, totally missed that he said rolename and not username.

After I bolded it and everything.

*takes note

Regards,
Jazz

[Gerhard Krause]

My my my, so much so soon,
3 pages ago it was noon.

Whether or not I am a PR I shall not tell,
but those who choose to rhyme with me would do well.

All the role fishing must cease,
or those who have them will surely decease.

Those who have partaken,
as PRs should not be taken.

The mod has said that all have something,
setting them appart from vanilla scumhunting.

So if some must rhyme,
that may be the only way they shine.

How is it of benefit to the town,
if all the PRs have their secrecy torn down?

Only scum would look and see,
while town would let them be.

unvote, vote:ray frost

for obvious role fishing,
and

FoS kpaca

for the same thing.

While RayFrost simply asked,
Kpaca's method was masked.

It is reasonable to assume,
that a PR must speak to a tune.

So asking those without the restriction,
to cease their rhymes and correct their diction,
leaves the PR's out with no place to hide,
and they surely will die come the midnight tide.

I have played with sociopath and malp before,
and both were lynched for lurking more.

Socio posted only 5 times,
and when the wagon on him started, completely ignored the signs.

He did not defend himself or claim,
though he was the godfather in that game.

[SocioPath]

Oh, totally missed that he said rolename and not username.

After I bolded it and everything.

*takes note

Regards,
Jazz

Also note that he stated page 6 as a big deal in itself.
This game didn't even start until page 3.

You really know how to rhyme.

Not as well as you might think:

I was not aware,
I had a yolk anywhere.

'ware' with 'where'

unvote, vote:sociopath,
for taking the lurker's path.

'path' with 'path'

Which...7 posts into the game. Calling lurkers. Hilarious.
Might as just well prod and replace me now, eh?

When you're right,
you're right.

'right' with 'right'


The rhyming in general is pretty sub par, but the above shouldn't even count.

Vote: Sociopath

.

For being the last player to confirm by a significant margin, and not even having the decency to make up an excuse about it like RF.

Maybe you just fail to understand that people have different schedules, and your amounts that you are pushing on this is terrible.

Your ego stroking of RF is questionable at best.

If kpaca is scum, the the distancing bus there is noted as well.
Stating that you'd vote him as RF is expect your 'pressure' vote on me.
Pressure votes != pressure if you STATE its a pressure vote.
Which you've essentially done.

As such, my vote for SP is as serious an early-game vote as you can expect. Being 2 days late to confirm, when those two days aren't a weekend or holiday, is as reasonable a pre-game scumtell as one can hope for IMO. I intend to continue voting SP until I am convinced that someone else is a better vote.

Nope, he's actually usually a lower-activity player as far as I've experienced, and, frankly, one that I almost always find a little scummy.

Also laughable.

Vote: Iecerint

Also, about the rhyming post restrictions:
Yes, it is very scummy to fake a post restriction.

PRs essentially limit the amount of information that the player slot can give a town.
Which also means limits the amount of slips a scum can do.
Essentially, in extreme cases it pretty much give the player slot free reigns to actively lurk and slip by through the game, as no one would except in-depth analysis from them.
And I've read several games where scum has done just that. (Recalls DGB's emoticon fake PR as scum.)

[kpaca]

Oh, totally missed that he said rolename and not username.

After I bolded it and everything.

*takes note

Regards,
Jazz

To be completely honest I only read like the first two words of that quote because I thought I knew what it already said.

[kpaca]

@Gerhard: To be honest where I play mafia a pr doesn't mean immediate night kill in the slightest, so I didn't and still don't see a problem with asking for what I did.

[SocioPath]

Socio posted only 5 times,
and when the wagon on him started, completely ignored the signs.

He did not defend himself or claim,
though he was the godfather in that game.

Referencing ongoing games is a huge no-no.

[RayFrost]

GK:

Where did I rolefish?

[Gerhard Krause]

You are dead in that game,
and it is approtriate to mention your posting.
But you should be posting here just the same,
for you activity in this game is sorely lacking.

Kpaca, why would scum let the PR live,
when death to him they could give?
Maybe he could survive,
but I doubt he would be long alive.

You sir could have no reason to look,
for as town your PRs would be forsook.

[Gerhard Krause]

I understand the no rhyming when you lack the post restriction, though I don't see much of a problem with it, considering that it also smudges who has the restriction and who doesn't (potential PR vs confirmed PR anybody?).

[RayFrost]

That says that rhyming when you don't have it as a post restriction makes it only "potential PR" rather than "confirmed PR."

[SocioPath]

You are dead in that game,
and it is approtriate to mention your posting.

Referencing. Ongoing. Games. Is. A. Huge. No-no.

But you should be posting here just the same,
for you activity in this game is sorely lacking.

Thats cute.
The game has been open for how long?
There was a good 6 hour chunk in there already in which you had not posted.
Argument through repetition facts does not make.

[Iecerint]

SP's return post makes 4 principal claims. Chronologically:

1. GK is not actually that great at rhyming. (What's your point? Are you trying to get GK into trouble for breaking his hypothetical PR?)
2. Voting someone during RVS for as reasonable a pre-game scumtell as exists is silly.
3. Continuing to vote suspect players who have yet to participate is pressure voting and therefore silly.
4. It's totally OK to ignore local context with regard to the rhymers (namely, the fact that both rhymers are highly active players) and to instead present abstract information about mafia theory.

I do agree that pressure voting is silly, but I dispute that I have pressure-voted anyone, and I clearly disagree with his other assertions. I also wish I could've seen him scumhunt a little less myopically. His only real targets are the two players voting for him.

I wish I could say this makes me certain that he is scum. The problem is that I literally always think he is scum.

Stating that you'd vote him as RF is expect your 'pressure' vote on me.

What did you mean here? I'm not sure what you meant.

[RayFrost]

He meant:

"Stating that you'd vote with RF if not for the fact that you were voting me"

[Iecerint]

GK, I don't think RF is rolefishing there. Come to think of it, I literally made the same point as RF just after that IIRC. Given that you interpreted RF that way, why didn't you call out me out for it, too?

I agree with SP about it being a little silly to call him out for inactivity now that he's shown up. It took him a few hours to post, but I don't think that's in any way damnable.