Open 191 - Paris Mafia II (Game Over!)

[kyle99]

vote: rhinox

I hate rhino's...

[kyle99]

I hugged Cat when I realized who she was. I suggest she.. gets a cat for an avy.. duh!

BTW guys I'm voteless townie so I won't be voting at all this game.

Way to make a claim for a role that doesn't exist.

vote: Kise

[kyle99]

Ah, didn't realize Mime's were like jesters,

unvote

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[kyle99]

Vigilante is going to kill Kise then? OK.

unvote
Vote: Kyle99

Ah, didn't realize Mime's were like jesters, unvote.

Major ignorance and/or feigning ignorance are not cool in my book.

I'm sorry it was ignorance, but I don't see how "major" it is. When I was reading the role PMs, all I got from mime's were that they were a second set of goons who could roleblock at night. How is that scummy?

[kyle99]

Reck's right.

@Kyle: Who do you think is scum?

Depends on what you think is scum, do you mean scum-mime or scum-mafia?

I think kise is Mime, and I don't think anyone is mafia yet, because the game is just starting. What I don't understand is the bandwagon being built on me just because I voted Kise and didn't know what a mime was, especailly since someone else did the exact same thing and got no suspicion.

[kyle99]

I mean scum-scum. Mimes aren't scum and we're not dealing with them right now; everybody's too confused. And, regarding the bolded, are you referring to Mae Ling?

I was referring to Mylynes, who voted for Kise, said he didn't know what Mimes were, and everyone was fine with it, and then all jumped on me for the same thing.

[kyle99]

@Kyle
I wouldn't stress it if I were you, it's just that you came after him and reiterated what he said. Naturally, this makes you look scummier because he performed the act (unvote) first, but it's nothing to get upset about. If anything, I'd say you push a case on Melinda and see where it gets you.

Who's Melinda?

[kyle99]

Vote: Kyle99

Right now I am suspicious of Kise and think vig killing him sounds like a good idea. I'm also suspicious of Kyle99 and cat.

Cat hasn't posted in a while and still doesn't have an avatar.

Damn it, Mylynes. Dude, let's seriously lynch him right now simply for his name. I'm game.

unvote
vote mylynes aka melinda aka mae ling

You are the only one having trouble with my name. I don't know how you could possibly get melinda or mae ling. My name is Mylynes..

@Kise - Vote and we'll see if the Mod counts it.

I agree that sounds like a good idea.

Why are you suspicious? Voting without giving reason is pretty stupid and scummy imo.

[kyle99]

@Mylynes

You state that you think I'm scummy, but the only thing even somewhat scummy is not no what a mime was, which was the same mistake you made. Either say what other rational you have for voting, or unvote.

[kyle99]

I think kise is mime, and I think people need to post more, specifically Sarag. I'll

vote: Sarag

till he comes and explains himself.

[kyle99]

leaning*

Ah crap, I hate alts.

unvote

.

[kyle99]

Actually I'm just really bad/lazy town but ok lol.

Nice. Those are great qualities for a townie.

[kyle99]

I think kise is mime, and I think people need to post more, specifically Sarag. I'll

vote: Sarag

till he comes and explains himself.

leaning*

Ah crap, I hate alts.

unvote

.

so tell me kyle, why was sarag ok to vote until you realized it was gerty? did you realize you accidentally voted your scum partner?

Um, no, I unvoted when I realized that he wasn't actually in the game. I thought that he was a normal player who was lurking, not an alt of an actual player.

[kyle99]

Mod definitely said if both goons die, the game continues.

Basically, I think it means that if the vig is dead and goons are dead, the best town can get is a stalemate.

I support a no lynch till mimes are dead plan.

Didn't the mod say that you can't vote no lynch until mimes are dead?

[kyle99]

@hito, I actually have completed a game as a townie, I think it was newbie 877. I honestly think reck just hates me, he did the same thing to me in my other game. I have a feeling scorp is scum, he was town in a newbie game with me, and he's playing WAY differently. Ill look at things closer when I get home, I'm out snowboarding.

[kyle99]

@kyle: If I'm scum here, why don't you vote for me already? Also I don't remember what game I was in with you, would you mind refreshing my memory?

It's here.

Ok, here's my case against XScorpion.

First, he get's mad at me for being ignorant about mimes. He says:

Major ignorance and/or feigning ignorance are not cool in my book.

Then later, he says that:

Actually I wouldn't mind a no lynch until mimes are dead, but whatever floats your boat I guess.

He says this despite the fact that he knows that you can't vote no lynch, hence the reason why he just

said

he wanted the town to vote no lynch as opposed to actually voting for it.
Then, he says that:

@Looker: I'm curious as to why you've already switched votes away from Kise even though he didn't vote anyone? This looks like wishy washy voting to me until you hit a bandwagon, giving you an excuse to keep a vote there.
But if you are so insistent that I vote for someone, then OMGUS I guess.
Vote: Looker

This post reeks of scum/bad logic. He votes for Looker because he says that he unvoted Kise. However, there was actually a quite good reason that I think he XScorpion already knew. Mostly everyone here agrees that there's a decent posibility that Kise is mime, which seems like a great reason to unvote Kise. Then he says, oh, and in case that reason sucks, then it's an OMGUS, not the reason I just listed.
Then there's this post:

I like how there's a 4 person bandwagon on me for being lazy, yet Looker is just behaving randomly (literally). That definitely makes sense. </sarcasm>

No, people aren't voting for you because you're lazy, there voting for you because you're acting scummy. Also, acting lazy and being random are completely different things.

Alright, believe this logic or not, but I'm pretty convinced that Kise is mime and XScorpion is scum. So without further ado,

vote: XScorpion

[kyle99]

ATTN: 242 = opportunistic bus

Ok, what do you have against me? You did the EXACT same thing in Mayor Mafia, now you're doing it here. Do you actually think I'm mafia, or do you just have some kind of personal grudge against me?

[kyle99]

ATTN: 242 = opportunistic bus

This

Care to give your thoughts on why this is a bus?

[kyle99]

@kyle: also if Kise is mime, why is he pushing my wagon?

Because he realizes that everyone thinks he's mime, so he's trying to act as un-mimie as possible.

[kyle99]

Reck said it, Kyle. I'm waitin' for Dry-Fit.

Yeah, but you said "this", so you obviously agree with it, so I'm curious why.

[kyle99]

Not really, I just didn't want him to have to go digging through all those pages for a simple answer. I'm really just a nice guy, Kyle.

Ok, you're confusing me. Do you agree with him or not? What do you mean by "I just don't want him to have to go digging through all those pages for a simple answer"?

[kyle99]

Q: "Do you agree with him or not?"
A: The supporting evidence is inconclusive and does not substantiate a direct statement at the moment.

Q: "What do you mean by..."
A: He asked a question Reck had already answered so I gave him that answer.

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What XScorpion said.

Alright, fair enough.

[kyle99]

Is it not just as likely that he's mafia pretending to be mime?

Well, hopefully when the vig kills him tonight we'll know for sure. We don't need to get caught up in dealing with mimes, just let the vig take care of that. We need to focus on dealing with scum, there far more dangerous.

[kyle99]

Hmm, I think Kise would be a good vig target, but I guess it's up to the vig to deside. As for the watcher, idk, I guess whoever seems like to most likely pro-town person.

[kyle99]

Picking up my prod, still in favor of a XScorpion lynch and a vig-kill of Kise, xRECKONERx, Mylynes, Looker, or Rhinox.

[kyle99]

Pssst, kyle's scum.

Hey kyle, how about not listing half the player list as your want-to-kill targets?

Is it my fault that half of the people in the game seem like decent vig-targets? Why do you think I'm scum? You've been saying it the whole game but haven't gave any reasons.

[kyle99]

....

WHY DO YOU WANT TO LYNCH ME?

[kyle99]

Learn to not be so goddamn lazy.

You're first reason is just you saying that I haven't done much yet, and it was over a week ago, so I'm not sure if that really applies any more.

You're second is just you saying you want to lynch me because I accidentally voted for someone that I thought was in the game that wasn't because an alt forgot to login on his alt account. No idea how that is scummy.

You're third reason is just referencing the same post you quoted in reason two, and saying it's "among other reasons", which you never posted.

You're last reason is saying the me voting for someone is just an opportunistic bus. By your logic, you voting me is just an opportunistic bus.


Have any actual reasons?

[kyle99]

1) It still applies. You haven't done anything yet.

2) It's scummy because if you were actually paying attention to the topic (see: reading at all), you would've known they were alts. However, you're NOT paying attention, you're just trying to give the illusion you are, which is why you made that mistake.

3) See #2.

4) Not so much. Because I've been going after you from the start, whereas you waited until the suspicion on Scorp was at the top to suddenly turn on him and start flinging suspicions.

1) I've done a decent amount of stuff, certantly more than you have. All you've done all game is just say to lynch me without giving any decent explanation.

2/3) I don't see how this is scummy, I thought he was a replacement or something. What pro-mafia reason would I have for doing this?

4) I waited until Scorp started doing scummy things to go after him, as opposed to you just going after me from the start because you have some sort of grudge against me. You did the same thing in mayor mafia.

[kyle99]

Wait, nvm, now I feel retarded.

Also,

ATTENTION KYLE. I DO NOT HAVE A GRUDGE AGAINST YOU. I CALLED YOU OUT FOR BEING SCUMMY IN MAYOR MAFIA AND YOU WERE SCUM. I'M CALLING YOU OUT HERE AS WELL BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTING SCUMMY. PLEASE READ AND UNDERSTAND THIS.

Is that why I was the person who you voted in the RVS?

[kyle99]

Vig stays hidden as long as possible. Even with the mimes gone, no reason for the vig to claim unless we're about to lynch them.

Kise, your plan isn't worth it because we DON'T WANT to know who the vig is if the watcher dies first. The entire point is to keep the vig hidden so they can't be roleblocked. We can talk about bread-crumbing plans if a mime is nk'ed tonight.

P.S one more vote and me switching on dry-fit would make him the new majority, just fyi.

Happy to.

unvote, vote: Dry Fit

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[kyle99]

Sweet, he's at L1. Someone come and hammer pl0x.

[kyle99]

Alright, I'm guessing someone who was on the Dry-fit lynch is probably the last mime, and right now, my top pick for mime is XScorp, but I need to look into it more. I'll wait and see if a watcher claims, for now.

[kyle99]

Well, since we can't lynch mime or scum today, the only possiblity for a town victory is to lynch a townie. And, since I'm the only confirmed townie (in my eyes, at least), ill

vote: kyle99

[kyle99]

Well, since we can't lynch mime or scum today, the only possiblity for a town victory is to lynch a townie. And, since I'm the only confirmed townie (in my eyes, at least), ill

vote: kyle99

Wait, we have 2 goons, not one.

unvote

My bad.

[kyle99]

vote: xofelf

I'm not exactly sure who the best NK is for tonight, but I'm thinking looker seems like an excellent choice for tonight.

[kyle99]

I have a decent town read on Mylynes, so I'll

unvote, vote: Mylynes

.

There's an equal chance of hitting mime or watcher then there is of hitting scum, and we most certainly don't want to risk killing mime, and killing watcher would be pretty bad too.

[kyle99]

Wow, we would just get a mafia claim. Not sure what to do, I'm starting to get a mime read on mylynes.

[kyle99]

Vote: mylynes

if I wasn't already.

You already were...

[kyle99]

vote: XScorp

I previously refrained from voting him because of his miminess, but with all the mimes gone, I'm fairly confident he's scum.

[kyle99]

ah... school has been keeping me really busy.. this weekend i will have to get to this.

Here's a hint: You should vote XScorpion.

You guys should all ISO him, he screams scum.

[kyle99]

Sorry Looker, I never liked scum. I always hate playing scum on this site, it's usually pretty obvious when I am.

Um, your at L1. Care to make a closing argument before someone comes and lynches you, or have you given up?

[kyle99]

Mod, can you please prod xofelf?

Her last post was on Friday, so she is not eligable for a prod yet. -the mod

[kyle99]

You're suspicious of her?

No, but I'd like her input.

[kyle99]

Ugh, watch as XScorpion comes and hammers...

[kyle99]

Ok, XScorp not hammering me makes me doubt his scummieness, so I'll

unvote

.

I'd be up for a Flinter lynch though and possibly xReck though. Xof needs to start posting moar.

[kyle99]

Ahhh, shit. That sucks, town sucked that game. We spent too much time worrying about the mimes than the scummies. Props to mafia for a good game, aswell as taking out the vig on night one. Also, kudos to VP for a well modded game aswell as giving me the absolute best death scene I've ever seen