R-SURVIVAL -- Game Over

[Ellibereth]

Forgot about this game, I'll try and give it a read once I cool down and realize that the people in this game (hopefully) are a smart rational group.

Winter still getting to you?

I see why the poll's a bad idea now.
Hacker, "what the hell are you thinking?" sort of implies that Ort is a misguided townie, not scum.
On that note, where the hell are Anon and mal...

[ortolan]

so do you don't want to answer my poll? fine?

let's take another poll

how many of you think my poll was deliberate rolefishing?

[Nachomamma8]

Deliberate? No...

[Cobalt]

no

[Ellibereth]

no

[Parama]

The way you asked the question and responded to people's (over)reactions makes me believe it wasn't deliberate.

[Anon]

I lost internet access for a few days. Im rereading now.

[Anon]

Ok, not missed much.

First, I dont think ortolan was rolefishing there. Also, I think that scum have less probabilities of "blatant" rolefishness. Ortolan is really trying to lead the town and forcing to state opinions which is a good thing, imo.

Regarding the poll, I have no idea what is a closed, open, semiopen setup. Can someone explain it to me?

[yabbaguy]

Read the wiki, Anon.

Actually- I think semiopen is the wrong word, this is really closed, despite some sample [effective] vanilla and goon PMs being shown. But w/e.

The polls are certifiably useless- but I think semioldguy might've taken it a notch too far, although I think he's town. Emotional excitement happens sometimes, not always for good, but it happens.

Orto's not fishing either, also. But enough of this poll malarkey, it's pissing me off.

[Nachomamma8]

Read the wiki, Anon.

Actually- I think semiopen is the wrong word, this is really closed, despite some sample [effective] vanilla and goon PMs being shown. But w/e.

The polls are certifiably useless- but I think semioldguy might've taken it a notch too far, although I think he's town. Emotional excitement happens sometimes, not always for good, but it happens.

Orto's not fishing either, also. But enough of this poll malarkey, it's pissing me off.

So ya. We've discovered polls suck and this setup may/may not be open, semiopen, or closed. So where do we go from here?

[Parama]

Read the wiki, Anon.

Actually- I think semiopen is the wrong word, this is really closed, despite some sample [effective] vanilla and goon PMs being shown. But w/e.

The polls are certifiably useless- but I think semioldguy might've taken it a notch too far, although I think he's town. Emotional excitement happens sometimes, not always for good, but it happens.

Orto's not fishing either, also. But enough of this poll malarkey, it's pissing me off.

So ya. We've discovered polls suck and this setup may/may not be open, semiopen, or closed. So where do we go from here?

I think from here we should stop speculating and lynch us some scum.

[Parama]

EBWOP: That was directed at everyone, not just Nacho.

[Anon]

yabbaguy, who do you think is scum?

[charter]

unvote, vote Ellibereth

I think Cobalt and Ellibereth and HH are scum.
I think bird and SOG are town.

Cobalt because there is no scumhunting, just drivel about the GAT.
Ellibereth because there is no scumhunting, just drivel about lurkers.
HH because he's playing pretty passively.

I'm actually kind of wondering why I was left out of Ellibereth's lurker lists. Why?

I'm about an inch away from vigging Cobalt. Cobalt, you should use your next post wisely.

[HackerHuck]

Hacker, "what the hell are you thinking?" sort of implies that Ort is a misguided townie, not scum.

Just repeating what Ortolan said doesn't make it any clearer to me.

Charter- why vote Ellibereth over Cobalt if you're threatening Colbalt with a vig?

[HackerHuck]

Oh, and yes I am playing passively and don't agree that Ortolan was rolefishing, blatantly or otherwise.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Hello, I'm away for a few days. I'll ask Claus to take over.

[charter]

Charter- why vote Ellibereth over Cobalt if you're threatening Colbalt with a vig?

Ellibereth has a vote I think, so it seems to be better to pile on Ellibereth. Plus it will be pointless to vote Cobalt if he does get shot soon.

Who are you most suspicious of right now and why?
Why haven't you voted yet, what are you waiting for?

[semioldguy]

overreaction++ Do you think it is scummy to ask for a poll or simply a bad idea? "What the hell are you thinking" implies I am town who should know better, rather than scum, so please explain why you're voting me.

I don't feel the vote is unwarranted. You have a lot of posts, yet the majority of your posts are not helpful or productive.

You are right though, it is an overreaction. I am more than a little frustrated from the other games I was/am playing in. One of which is Mini 859, which is no longer ongoing. I had just come back to see that I had been lynched as town in lylo within less than 24 hours of the day having been opened and before I was even able to make a post.

I also disbelieve that you didn't realize your poll was role fishing. One answer to the poll, as opposed to the other, very clearly would indicate someone not being a power role. I didn't see how this could have been so easily overlooked. Perhaps I am wrong though, since several others also didn't see it as deliberate or see what I saw to be obvious role fishing. In that case, I'd ask that you please tighten up your games.

[ortolan]

hey you do realise that power roles can simply lie? hey, who'da thunk it

plus my whole rationale for originally suspecting yabba is that I would think town power roles would be more careful to hide their power without dropping statements about semi-openness, whereas scum power roles would get one and implicitly think "ok well the game is non-vanilla".

[Cobalt]

hey don't vig me, I'm working on a PBPA of parama. that's why I've been less active. expect it later today.

[semioldguy]

hey you do realise that power roles can simply lie? hey, who'da thunk it

That sets a bad precedent for any claim situation.

[Nachomamma8]

That sets a bad precedent for any claim situation.

Would you rather our power roles out themselves on day 1?

plus my whole rationale for originally suspecting yabba is that I would think town power roles would be more careful to hide their power without dropping statements about semi-openness, whereas scum power roles would get one and implicitly think "ok well the game is non-vanilla".

Hmm... I didn't think about that, good point.

[Parama]

hey don't vig me, I'm working on a PBPA of parama. that's why I've been less active. expect it later today.

Why exactly me in particular? Just wondering.

[semioldguy]

Would you rather our power roles out themselves on day 1?

That's a False Dichotomy. I would rather a question not ever be asked/answered if it would would force our power roles to choose between either a lie regarding their own role or potentially outing themselves. Power roles shouldn't do either.