okay. You're here.malpascp wrote:Richard seems the lynch for today so far, but the deadline is in three weeks. I think Richard is a good wagon and Ill move vote to him if needed, but maybe some extra talk before ending the day can be useful.
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I dont really have scum reads on anyone else. Scum needs to screw up a bit more.
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Unvote: malpascpCurrent Games: [url=http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13952]Mini 957[/url]
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unvote: RichardGHP
After reading your posts and deliberating, I don't think you're scum. I lean toward believing the JoaT claim, for the most part. I don't think you just found that role and claimed it. Sure, it is a very pro-town role, but I'm almost sure Richard didn't know of the role before and I think if he was lying he may have tried a cop or VT claim.
@ Richard - if you don't mind, could you use your investigation first night and let us know the results? That would help me believe your claim fully if I see who you investigate and what the result is.
As for who I'm most suspicious of now, I'll have to go back and reread the thread, but I'm mainly looking at my FoS, EC then DoS and I'll go ahead and look at Konowa and ckd since votes were recently placed on them.-
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I didn't cut anything off. The m is not suppopsed to be there. I also said "probably half", for the record, and that was an inexact guesstimate.Nicodemus wrote:@Dizzy: What were you saying with your "half that wagon is scum m-"? What word did you cut off there?ShowDizzyIzzyB13: For the record, I /ghooked Cogitate :p
ChannelDelibird: Well, for the record, FUCK YOU
ChannelDelibird: ;_;
DizzyIzzyB13: Cogitate is shorter. :(
DizzyIzzyB13: Sorry, CD
ChannelDelibird: Well, at least that's the first time a girl has told me "it's not short enough"-
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malpascp wrote:Richard seems the lynch for today so far, but the deadline is in three weeks. I think Richard is a good wagon and Ill move vote to him if needed, but maybe some extra talk before ending the day can be useful.
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I dont really have scum reads on anyone else. Scum needs to screw up a bit more.FoS malpascpuntil he comes up with more content. There is almost 15 pages of material you have missed. I really hope that's not all you have to say.-
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EBWOP: I caught that part of the post and wanted to reply quickly, but then I read that post properly and noticed this stuff IS hould probably respond to, especially since it has the quote I was replaying to in it (which I managed to misquote, yay).
Setting up conditional future lynches on such flimsy cases is far more suspicious than pointing out the conventional logic that a fast wagon with a poor case is likely to be scum driven.Nicodemus wrote:
WARNING: The below point is ONLY valid if TL flips scum.DizzyIzzyB13 wrote:I would add to that that someone reaching L-1 in a game this size in this short a time is worrisome at best and alarming at worst.Given the speed with which is has developed, I'd say there's a good chance that maybe as much as half that wagon is scum m- especially if TheLonging turns out to be scum.
I've seen scum do this in another game, where they imply that the wagon on their scumbuddy is full of bussing scum, so that if their buddy is lynched they can go happily down the row lynching the lynchers for "bussing." As I said, this only applies if TL flips scum, but it's something we need to watch out for. And, if TL indeed flips scum, my FoS will be falling upon you Dizzy.ShowDizzyIzzyB13: For the record, I /ghooked Cogitate :p
ChannelDelibird: Well, for the record, FUCK YOU
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DizzyIzzyB13: Cogitate is shorter. :(
DizzyIzzyB13: Sorry, CD
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I'm not really comfortable believing RichardGHP's claim still. Sure it seems beyond his capability to look it up and try to fake it... but I wouldn't put it completely beyond him.
You slipping up a bit there sorasgoof?sorasgoof wrote:I suggest you do use your investigation tonight, Richard. Someone better protect you, though, or it won't matter one way or the other. If you aren't mafia, I'll bet the mafia targets you tonight.
FoS: sorasgoofShow0-1 at MS.net (0-0 offsite)Town:
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Thestatusquo - and that, ladies and gentlemen, was trolling.
cyberbob - it doesn't count if you're insecure enough about it to have to openly pat yourself on the back-
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Why'd you put that idea in his head then?sorasgoof wrote:Oh, and if your investigation is blocked, we'll really be in a pickle. I'm not sure I'd believe you if you come back with a blocked investigation. That'd be too easy to make up, you know?
He brings up a point though. A mafia roleblocker is very likely to target Richard if he knows that Richard will use an investigation.
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I know. That's why there are a lot of useless players, too. Continue being secretive. I'll just push a wagon on you, I guess, if you're going to justify your voting with "gut instinct." It's scum behavior, and scum reasoning.DragonsofSummer wrote:@Pman: I already explained waffling, read my posts in iso and you will see it.
@Cookie: No I don't. If I don't feel like it I never have to give a reason for anything. In fact there are a great number of players on this site that play exactly that way. Also You have to play with a certain amount of gut in this game you will never be 100% certain of anything. Thats what my gut tells me about that post, and that is the post that put me over the edge on him. or would you rather I said everything everyone else has said about him again in my vote post to?
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OK, this is a different kind of voting record that shows who each person has voted for so far today in order. Bold indicates their current vote. Let me know if there are any mistakes.
curiouskarmadog: CSL, CSL, InflatablePie,ready2rock
Bogre: RichardGHP,TheLonging
Annachie: TheLonging
DizzyIzzyB13:CSL (Annachie)
DragonsofSummer: CSL, TheLonging, RichardGHP,sorasgoof
EtherealCookie: CCARaven4,Konowa
Konowa: CSL, pman5595, Fugitive,TheLonging
malpascp: CSL
RichardGHP: Fugitive,TheLonging
CCARaven4:RichardGHP
InflatablePie: Fugitive, TheLonging,RichardGHP
sorasgoof: curiouskarmadog,RichardGHP
ready2rock: diddin, RichardGHP, TheLonging, RichardGHP,curiouskarmadog
diddin: TheLonging, No Lynch,RichardGHP
Fugitive: NavyCherub, RichardGHP, RichardGHP
pman5595: everyone, sorasgoof, Fugitive, TheLonging, malpascp
Nicodemus: InflatablePie, pman5595,RichardGHP
NavyCherub: Fugitive, RichardGHP, TheLonging,RichardGHP
Parama: curiouskarmadog, diddin, danakillsu, TheLonging,DragonsofSummer
TheLonging: NavyCherub, RichardGHP, Konowa,RichardGHP
Not Voting: Annachie, malpascp, Fugitive, pman5595
@DragonsofSummer: care to explain why you voted for sorasgoof?-
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That was exactly it.RichardGHP wrote:
I'm assuming it's because he brought up that I could be roleblocked, where it hadn't been brought up before and might have put an idea into the mafia's head.EtherealCookie wrote:Also, how did Soras slip up?Show0-1 at MS.net (0-0 offsite)Town:
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Thestatusquo - and that, ladies and gentlemen, was trolling.
cyberbob - it doesn't count if you're insecure enough about it to have to openly pat yourself on the back-
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Claiming ignorance and naivety isn't any better.ready2rock wrote:
Yes it is. when you are playing a non-newbie game on this site, it is assumed that you at least know the basics of how to play/theory/etc. This is why your noobclaiming is exhausting everyone so much.It's not fair to automatically assume that I should know the various acronyms and suchShowDizzyIzzyB13: For the record, I /ghooked Cogitate :p
ChannelDelibird: Well, for the record, FUCK YOU
ChannelDelibird: ;_;
DizzyIzzyB13: Cogitate is shorter. :(
DizzyIzzyB13: Sorry, CD
ChannelDelibird: Well, at least that's the first time a girl has told me "it's not short enough"-
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Because I haven't changed my vote. It's not doing any harm where it is.pman5595 wrote:also: DizzyIzzy, any particular reason you are voting for Annachie? That vote is still in place from when you voted for CSL in the first post of the RVS
Whilst there were good reasons for the Richard wagon, in light of his claim, I don't see any pro-town reason for us to lynch him today. Since he has claimed a one-shot investigative role, it is in the town's interests to allow Richard tonight to use his investigation, since at worst he'll be a distraction to the mafia and at best we'll get a useful result out of him. Tomorrow, we should decide on Richard's fate.ShowDizzyIzzyB13: For the record, I /ghooked Cogitate :p
ChannelDelibird: Well, for the record, FUCK YOU
ChannelDelibird: ;_;
DizzyIzzyB13: Cogitate is shorter. :(
DizzyIzzyB13: Sorry, CD
ChannelDelibird: Well, at least that's the first time a girl has told me "it's not short enough"-
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so glad we didnt quick lynch, now we are getting into the meat and potatoes.
Yep, OMGUS, vote is in the right place.ready2rock wrote:Unvote
Vote: curiouskarmadog
Now, before you say OMGUS, let me explain myself
So I am scum who doesn’t a.) want to get a quick lynch, and b.) wants the day to go longer to get more information? Nice.ready2rock wrote:
In short, he has only addressed the wagon on someone and uses the person's claim as to why he is not voting for them.
Wait wait, no I am scummy because I opinion changed? I think you are the scummiest player now, funny how you didn’t have a problem with my stance when I said it about Pie.ready2rock wrote: He also voted for pie, calling him the scummiest player, and hasn't mentioned him since.
Meh, not really….think I have already stated who I find or have found suspicious.ready2rock wrote:
Do you find it suspicious?
I am an expert scum hunter…LOL…how about this…your timing of both the main wagons you have been on. Day 1..not much to go on….I find things that people (especially newer people) argue are scummy day 1 are not indeed scummy, but scum trying to push something to get a quick Day 1 lynch.ready2rock wrote:
Do you have any reasoning as to why I'm such a good wagon other than the reasons I have defended in 342?
R2R, why did you not address my reasons I don’t like a Richard lynch? You scared?
LOL, wasnt R2R on your wagon at one point? Interesting connection. please comment on why I dont think richard is a good lynch today...then explain to me WHY richard is a better lynch? Why do you think that statement is bullshit? Why did you not address the post directly before that statement?TheLonging wrote:
Bullshit, I don't see how R2R is a much better wagon than RichardGHP. How do you think he is?curiouskarmadog wrote:also, R2R is a much better wagon.....
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Hey Richard….you understand that if you are not the lynch today…you are going to have to use your investigation ability tonight…I don’t want any bullshit, like I forgot..or didn’t see your post..or any of that. Do you have a problem with that? IF so why?
whoa whoa whoa...what? Who said anything about a RB? do you know something we dont? If he is blocked, he is blocked and we will deal with it tomorrow. Considering you didnt unvote with this posts leads me to believe you dont even want an attempt to see if he is lying..or see if he is blocked. Welcome to my scum list, bub.sorasgoof wrote:Oh, and if your investigation is blocked, we'll really be in a pickle. I'm not sure I'd believe you if you come back with a blocked investigation. That'd be too easy to make up, you know?
Unvote, vote sorasgoof
this post (and lack of an unvote) screams inside knowledge and fear.
oh oh , guess what R2R, I think Soras is now scummier...does that make me scummier?
QFTDragonsofSummer wrote:unvote vote sorasgoof
Too many people doing to many scummy things in this game.
anything else stand out to you?
so let me get this straight. You dont believe Richard's claim, and as "town" dont want an attempt to see an investigation? Furthermore, you think that sora might have "slipped", but it only deserves an "fos" over someone who might or might not have an investigation?....interesting...can you please confirm this is your stance.TheLonging wrote:I'm not really comfortable believing RichardGHP's claim still. Sure it seems beyond his capability to look it up and try to fake it... but I wouldn't put it completely beyond him.
You slipping up a bit there sorasgoof?sorasgoof wrote:I suggest you do use your investigation tonight, Richard. Someone better protect you, though, or it won't matter one way or the other. If you aren't mafia, I'll bet the mafia targets you tonight.
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I'm going to have to disagree with this. I asked him to do this too, but upon further thought, if scum knows that he's going to investigate, he'll be the prime candidate for a mafia role blocker. If we think there isn't a role blocker, then yes, I'm all for the investigation and would definitely need it tonight, but I don't know if it's same to assume there's not one.curiouskarmadog wrote:Hey Richard….you understand that if you are not the lynch today…you are going to have to use your investigation ability tonight…I don’t want any bullshit, like I forgot..or didn’t see your post..or any of that. Do you have a problem with that? IF so why?
I'm still going over the posts of the 4 I mentioned before (DoS, EC, ckd, and Konowa) but I'm going to take a look through sora and r2r's posts so far too. I'll see who gains my vote when I'm through.-
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I'm not liking how Dragons seemed so eager to jump on soras for talking about the potential for Richard being blocked. I still think Richard is lying, but it's pretty scummy to give the mafia any ideas, but the mafia probably would know to anyways, to the post is rendered moot.ShowTown 8/4
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Hey ckd... you understand that I can't give you anything if I get roleblocked tonight, don't you?curiouskarmadog wrote:Hey Richard….you understand that if you are not the lynch today…you are going to have to use your investigation ability tonight…I don’t want any bullshit, like I forgot..or didn’t see your post..or any of that. Do you have a problem with that? IF so why?
No, I don't have a problem with using it tonight. But you have to understand, I may not be able to come up anything due to a roleblock. Please understand that.
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