Sorry for going silent for a while, there. You can blame Dragon Age.
Civil 424 wrote:
If scvm is a townie, there's no longer any sense wasting that "slot", as you kept calling it. Although, if he were actually scum, then he'd be getting away with murder if we kept him alive. And personally, if he flipped scum, I think you'd look just as bad as anyone not voting for him.
I'm not here to look good. I'm here to lynch an anti-town player.
5cvm 425 wrote:Scvm hasn't posted in like 5 days. I'd almost prefer a replacement at this point.
Nono, keep going.
You're doing great.
I especially like the part involving lynching hito. Except you should probably respond to this point:
hito wrote:What the hell? No I don't. Me not thinking that is what you're calling the scummiest thing about pushing a policy lynch.
But hito,
You are not voting 5cvm. Why not?
Because he thinks you are scum. He thinks I could go either way. I think (actually know) that your "not caring" about my alignment goes a long way toward explaining some things about
your
alignment. :O
(emphasis mine)
This is such stupid buddying I don't even know how to react. I know your ENITRE plan is to not contribute a single thing and trust other players to work your defense for you, but please, try to at least look ashamed about it.
This is where I re-insert my point about an policy lynch being alignment independent for the umpteenth time.
TheButtonmen 476 wrote:@ Htio;
What player(s) do you find scummiest?
Hito ISO 44 wrote:
Hmm. The followers, mostly. ISO squirrel, or confid/tommy. Not really much there but fluff. Squirrel in particular asks a lot of questions but doesn't actually post much analysis or anything. This is a pretty significant scumtell in my book. Brosius to a lesser degree - I've given the mitigating factors for him above. (To be fair these should apply to confid, but he was gone for so so long I am loath to give him any sort of pass. It'll be pretty dependent on what Tommy says.)
Although now I am also going to have to add you under the 'asking questions and not posting much' clause since your recent posts have been nothing but welcomes and questions and an ISO read shows that this has been going on for a while. Weren't you going to show 5cvm was pro-town in any way?
Ooh, and Tommy. Too many questions marks, not enough content. Especially considering the slot he came from.
Civil 432 wrote:Just in case this is somehow still unclear. You never said to yourself or anyone, 'hey, why the fuck are you defending him!?'
Now, when 'Scvm is anti-town' (which you kept saying even as he was improving) is such a fact in your head, you should just as clearly see why scum have an interest in keeping him ALIVE regardless of alignment.
I don't think there's a way you can explain taking the scvm=anti-town basis you've worked with and not carrying it just one logical step further. Even if you believed he were scum, you could easily have gone after other people as well.
I've already said why - because I am trying to get a null information, anti-town player lynched. If 5cvm is town, the best way to do so is to make the logical case, not to attack those not voting for him. If he is scum, the best way to do so is to make it as painless as possible for his scumbuddies to bus him so we can get on with it. Hence making a strong case. The fact that he has many active defenders could be scumbuddies; there's simply no sense in speculating on that though when we can check by lynching the anti-town player first.
Also, I have to point out 'gone after others'. I do THINK outside of what I post, you know. But what do you mean by, gone after? Call for the lynch of others? There is no lynch as optimal to the town as 5cvm. If you just mean I should be whipping around more FOS's and the ilk, I personally think that's pointless. You can tell what I think about people's cases and ideas by iso-ing me; there's no sense in me throwing around who else I want to lynch when I am not willing to act on it.
And civil, you're doing it again. You're completely ignoring 5cvm - he doesn't feature on your list at all. Are you treating him as confirmed town forever? If not, what would it take to get you to lynch him? Would you ignore all of your other scum reads on another day to lynch him? Or are you convinced you can divine 'scum reads' from a player who is actively claiming scum? What action could 5cvm do that you would consider scummy?
xvart 443 wrote:So hito, if 5cvm flips scum are you going straight for Thebuttonmen and/or me tomorrow, since 5cvm claimed us as buddies?
No, I think the entire thing is a null information WIFOM gambit. However, the very fact that he has deliberately created a null information setting should tell you something. (hint: it's that he is acting against the towns interests and I have said this a lot already.)
In fact, as much as I don't like asking a lot of questions (a good way to look like you're contributing while putting the impetus on other players), I am going to pose the questions I asked civil to all of you:
Are you treating 5cvm as confirmed town forever? If not, what would it take to get you to lynch him? Would you ignore all of your other scum reads on another day to lynch him? Or are you convinced you can divine 'scum reads' from a player who is actively claiming scum? What action could 5cvm do that you would consider scummy?
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