Pick Your Power - Game. Set. Match.

[TonyMontana]

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 10

BloodCovenent

- 2 - Faraday, budja - (L-8)

budja

- 1 - BloodCovenent - (L-9)

devotress

- 7 - SerialClergyman, DeathNote, Farside22, Cobalt, TonyMontana, Vaya - (L-3)

elvis_knits

- 3 - Xylthixlm, Benmage, Seacore - (L-7)

Faraday

- 1 - drippinggoofball - (L-9)

SerialClergyman

- 1 - devotress - (L-9)

Vaya

- 1 - elvis_knits - (L-9)

Players not voting: Benmage, chamber, Cruciare, Dramonic, FishytheFish

I investigated TM because I thought he might have been part of a scum-engineered simulpost quicklynch.

Possible reasons for quicklynch:
1. Honest accident by chamber
2. Co-op between me and chamber
3. Hawk lynch by chamber

I couldn't have engineered the lynch by myself, but chamber could have, so I don't see why you picked me over him.

I never voted for Coug, I totaly thought he was town.

Sorry, i mixed up a couple of vote counts.

Replace every instance of "chamber" with "dramonic".

[Xylthixlm]

farside:

I investigated TM because I thought he might have been part of a scum-engineered simulpost quicklynch.

TM was one of the people who L-1/hammered StrangerCoug before he claimed.

This assume's that mafia day talks???

Yes. I dinged DGB for that earlier, now elvis is doing it too.

[Xylthixlm]

DGB's response to my ding was a masterpiece of eggnogthink btw:

What do you think about DGB's assumption that the scum are talking?

Well, were they talking? If I'm assuming that they are, WRONGLY, what does it mean? If I'm correct, maybe I read the rules? OK unlikely, I never read rules and I didn't this time either). If I'm CORRECT (without having read the rules, admittedly!), maybe TonyMontana gave himself away

that

spectacularly.

Are you assuming that I'm assuming rightly, or wrongly, Xyl? Because regardless of the answer, it means that YOU know something I don't. Get it? Disingenuous.

[elvis_knits]

I already told you how I thought daytalking was likely because I was almost "accidentally" lynched and then StrangerCoug was also. That's a bit too much for everything to be truly accidental.

[TonyMontana]

I don't see why scum would bother trying to quicklynch twice on day 1. Doesn't exactly seem like world class strategy.

In any case, there was alot of activity day 1, and I'm not really flabbergasted that a simulpost lynch happened, especially given the nonchalance the bandwagons were treated with.

[Xylthixlm]

I already told you how I thought daytalking was likely because I was almost "accidentally" lynched and then StrangerCoug was also. That's a bit too much for everything to be truly accidental.

You're putting a lot of credit in something that almost never actually happens. Coordinating a quicklynch as scum is painful in the best of circumstances.

[elvis_knits]

Maybe you're right, since Tony Montana is town.

I still think scum may have had a hand in it, maybe not as coordinated, but as a solo capitalizing. Cause I've seen that plenty.

[chamber]

Maybe you're right, since Tony Montana is town.

I still think scum may have had a hand in it, maybe not as coordinated, but as a solo capitalizing.

Cause I've seen that plenty.

3 examples please

[elvis_knits]

You've never seen scum quickhammer?

[Cobalt]

with my own experience as scum quicklynching, it does not take daytalk. it only requires a pair of scum knowing each other is online, which can be easily done in-thread.

[farside22]

with my own experience as scum quicklynching, it does not take daytalk. it only requires a pair of scum knowing each other is online, which can be easily done in-thread.

^ this
Also since I keep myself hidden it's not something I noticed before as scum but I would type something as a like I notice X so my scum partner would see it but not on day 1 and so bold.

[chamber]

You've never seen scum quickhammer?

On day 1? Not that I remember.

[dramonic]

Back from vla, reading

[Budja]

I've been far too lax with this game.
I'm had a busier time than I thought.

Expect a post within 12-24hrs.

[Cruciare]

I've concluded that Plum's wall post is a whole lot of tl;dr that probably won't be very useful.

Farside, I won't bother answering about Coug because he's dead and scum, but as for your post, your reasons for suspecting Seacore, Vi and DGB were all pretty crap.

DGB has been massively contradicting herself within her last few posts. DGB, please give me a clear list of who you think Haylen's scumbuddies (2 people) and the other scumteam (3 people) are. Also, who do you actually want to lynch today?

Xyl, we're playing a game of chicken with the [other] scum here. Do you not see the prospects of leaving Elvis alive (i.e. not lynching her) for some time? Also, you've been tagging "scum" all over the place - who are your other scumreads, and how strong are these scumreads?

Vaya, why are you lurking?

[DrippingGoofball]

I can't provide a list of Haylen/Plum's buddies because there is no clear evidence, even with my wacky scumtells, I'm not picking up anything noteworthy. I don't like your demand for lists of players divided by scum faction, HAS ANYONE ELSE SPECULATED ON THIS YET??? Why are you asking me to do this? Are you trying to use my scumdar to help NK your COMPETING SCUM FACTION??? I cannot think of any reason why you would single me out, on Day 2, with no dead player in one of the scum factions, to list scum suspects SEPARATED BY FREAKIN' FACTION.

If Vaya flips scum, Benmage, Dramonic, and maybe, but less likely, Xyl would be her buddy. That is all I see right now with any clarity.

I think that Vaya, BloodCovenent or elvis would make good lynches. If they aren't your buddies, Cruciare, then I warmly recommend them to your group for the nightkill.

[Cruciare]

...

Vote: DrippingGoofball

Dear Goofy,

Let's take this step by step. You believe that Faraday, Blood, Elvis and Xyl are all scum, correct? Earlier you stated that you believe Faraday and Blood to be Haylen's scumbuddies, which makes Elvis and Xyl scumbuddies as per common sense. So you suggest Faraday is bussing his buddy Blood. OK. Now you imply to suggest that Xyl and Elvis have been bussing each other since early D1 and Xyl is now campaigning for the lynch of his cop scumbuddy (no of course I don't think you're actually suggesting this, I'm just pointing out where your logic fails). Wait, there's more. You then add Vaya to the list of potential scum, adding Benmage and Dramonic and possibly Xyl as her scumbuddies. HOW MANY SCUM AND SCUMGROUPS DO YOU THINK THERE ARE? You reprimand me for dividing players by scum faction, I say you need to start looking at players divided by scum faction. I singled you out because there are contradictions and holes all over your logic. Wasn't the entirety of your reasoning for suspecting Faraday based on him and Blood being Haylen's scumbuddies? And now you claim that you can't provide a list of Haylen's buddies, yet you still maintain your suspicion of Faraday. This is a game of MAFIA, if you're actually not scum please start looking for SENSIBLE (i.e. not Elvis+Xyl) CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THE INFORMED MINORTIES WE ARE TRYING TO HUNT DOWN thanks.

Love, Cruciare

P.S. Do you even know where your vote is right now? What's this about Vaya, Blood or Elvis making good lynches?

[dramonic]

Why would a vaya flip be indicative of my alignment?

[DrippingGoofball]

Why would a vaya flip be indicative of my alignment?

I understand that, being scum, you don't need to read anything, so let me make it easy for you to pretend to hunt scum by pointing out the post where it's all explained:

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 51#2034251

[DrippingGoofball]

HOW MANY SCUM AND SCUMGROUPS DO YOU THINK THERE ARE?

Sigh. Another nO0b unfamiliar with the concept that one can have more suspects than the exact number of scum, which is routinely an unknown quantity. Given that we have 7 anti-town players, now 5 because 2 are dead, and that I'm ACTIVELY SCUM HUNTING, you ought to expect a larger number of suspects than there are actual scum player slots.

Yeah maybe if you put my posts together you might be able to put a fuzzy line or maybe some vague Venn diagram of scum teams, but I'm town, and I don't give a rat's tutu about the different scumteams. I'm not looking for separate scum teams, I'm looking for scum.

What players care about splitting scum factions, and making theories are scum factions? I say that having been scum in games with multiple scum factions. It's the scum. The town has difficulty enough separating the townies, lurkers, village idiots, from the scum, they don't care about the color of the scumbag they string up.

Scumz, on the other hand, are always exquisitely aware of competing factions. They fear the NK, and they hope to cross-kill. It's good the the town, because it forces them to actively scum hunt during the day. Also, we have the bonus scumtell of scumz obsessing over their competitors.

P.S. Do you even know where your vote is right now? What's this about Vaya, Blood or Elvis making good lynches?

Yes love, I know where it is, but I'm changing my mind a little on priorities. Thank you so much for the tunneling. I feel special, and the whole reason I play this game is to feel special.

<3

I've just added you to my list of suspects for obsessing over scum factions.

<3 <3 <3

[DrippingGoofball]

REVIEW:

VAYA BUDDIES

, in decreasing order:
Benmage (~100% certainty) (special note, Benmage NOT scum with Farside)
Dramonic (80% certainty)
Xyl (> average)

SCUM FOR REASONS NOT TIED IN WITH VAYA:

Faraday
BloodCovenent
elvis
Xyl
Cruciare

[DrippingGoofball]

Now looking at where my suspects are voting!

BloodCovenent

- 2 -

Faraday

, budja - (L-8)
budja - 1 -

BloodCovenent

- (L-9)
devotress - 7 - SerialClergyman, DeathNote, Farside22, Cobalt, TonyMontana,

Vaya

- (L-3)

elvis_knits

- 3 -

Xylthixlm, Benmage

, Seacore - (L-7)

Faraday

- 1 - drippinggoofball - (L-9)
SerialClergyman - 1 - devotress - (L-9)

Vaya

- 1 -

elvis_knits

- (L-9)

Players not voting: chamber,

Cruciare

,

Dramonic

, FishytheFish

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There's an error in the vote count, Benmage is erroneously listed among the non-voters.
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(1) The most suspect action here is Vaya's late Devotress wagon hop. Vaya should die for this, in addition to the lurking, and general weirdness of contribution. She's not playing the game, but she shows up for a late position on a wagon for no reason that she can call her own.

(2) We've got 2/3 scums wanting to kill elvis during the day because they can't do it at night, they're afraid of the Watcher.

(3) We have Budja/Faraday/BloodCovenent all pointing fingers at each other into a triangle hahahaha that's pretty scummy actually.

Let's lynch some scum folks.

unvote, vote: Vaya

[Faraday]

HOW MANY SCUM AND SCUMGROUPS DO YOU THINK THERE ARE?

Sigh. Another nO0b unfamiliar with the concept that one can have more suspects than the exact number of scum, which is routinely an unknown quantity. Given that we have 7 anti-town players, now 5 because 2 are dead, and that I'm ACTIVELY SCUM HUNTING, you ought to expect a larger number of suspects than there are actual scum player slots.

Yeah maybe if you put my posts together you might be able to put a fuzzy line or maybe some vague Venn diagram of scum teams, but I'm town, and I don't give a rat's tutu about the different scumteams. I'm not looking for separate scum teams, I'm looking for scum.

What players care about splitting scum factions, and making theories are scum factions? I say that having been scum in games with multiple scum factions. It's the scum. The town has difficulty enough separating the townies, lurkers, village idiots, from the scum, they don't care about the color of the scumbag they string up.

Scumz, on the other hand, are always exquisitely aware of competing factions. They fear the NK, and they hope to cross-kill. It's good the the town, because it forces them to actively scum hunt during the day. Also, we have the bonus scumtell of scumz obsessing over their competitors.

Oh cool you just claimed scum?

Unvote Vote DGB

You're pretty much guilty of dividing people by scum-partners/groups on several occasions.

Time to kill it with fire.

[dramonic]

wow, what a great case... Not.
You accuse me of trying to get you lynched on a Vaya scumflip, yet you're the one lining up 3 lynches after Vaya. You really are sure she's scum, aren't you?

You look more like the bussing one here <_<

[Vaya]

(1) The most suspect action here is Vaya's late Devotress wagon hop. Vaya should die for this, in addition to the lurking, and general weirdness of contribution. She's not playing the game, but she shows up for a late position on a wagon for no reason that she can call her own.

Why is my being on the devotress wagon suspect? Though maybe you can't tell due to my lack of posting here, she's been my biggest suspect all game. Note that I had my vote on her all of yesterday, despite no one else going along with it then.