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Post Post #775 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 5:33 am

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Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 10


BloodCovenent
- 2 - Faraday, budja - (L-8)
devotress
- 2 - SerialClergyman, DeathNote - (L-8)
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- 2 - Xylthixlm, Benmage - (L-8)
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- 1 - Cobalt - (L-9)
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- 1 - drippinggoofball - (L-9)

Players not voting: BloodCovenent, chamber, Cruciare, devotress, Dramonic, elvis_knits, Farside22, FishytheFish, Seacore, TonyMontana, Vaya

DeathNote wrote: Cobalt claiming vig is a surprise to me and rather disappointing so... I suppose I will vote the next scummiest person on my list.
You've blown my mind with this comment. What exactly did you expect him to take? If you found him scummy before why are you letting him off now that hes claimed vig instead of freaking the fuck out because one mafia has 2x killing power.
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Post Post #776 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:08 am

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Cobalt wrote:devotress has some very bad votes
How bad?
Cobalt wrote:serial wanted the bulletproof to claim with poor reasoning
Now, that's worth a vote.
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

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Post Post #777 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:28 am

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No really. I've looked at devotress' voting record and what is so bad about it? So far we've lynched a serial killer. How would we know her voting record is bad?
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

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Post Post #778 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 7:31 am

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Now I read Devotress' posts in isolation. Maybe vote-hopping and the occasional lack of conviction. Is that normal?
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.

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Post Post #779 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:07 am

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specifically her unvote of benmage in iso 20 and the reasoning in the two preceeding posts. Bad. Especially coupled with the vote hopping.
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Post Post #780 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 10:08 am

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i'd still rather lynch EK.....where is she...
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Post Post #781 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 11:43 am

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The relatives will NOT leave my house and more are coming tomorrow :( So I haven't read anything from this day yet...

However, I can report that Tony Montana is innocent.
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Post Post #782 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:17 pm

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Yay, thanks Elvis.

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Post Post #783 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:20 pm

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Post Post #784 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:30 pm

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Faraday wrote:
Vote BC
Cool... anything else?
DrippingGoofball wrote:I am reluctant to admit that elvis still being alive is not good.

I love you elvis but that sure ain't looking good combined with your complete and absolute lack of scumhunting.
Not really. I wasn't too surprised. i know it's all wifom, but what if scum specifically didn't want to kill him. Either that, or ya, he's a scum cop.
TonyMontana wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:
Cobalt wrote:tried to vig devotress. I was either blocked or devo was bussed.
Don't forget bulletproof.
Devotress, being 22nd in the draft order, Bulletproof.

Hahahahahhahahahh hahahhah aha hahahhah

DIE SCUM DIE
Plum/haylen, being 21st in the draft order, Empowerer.

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^ this. Didn't randomization tests suggest that low draft picks could indeed receive power roles? Was it you Xyl that suggested that in the sign up thread?
TonyMontana wrote:Yeah.. maybe dev did. At 20
Wow, that really made me laugh. hard.
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TonyMontana wrote:Yeah.. maybe dev did. At 20
No. Dev didn't.
Why do you suggest that?
*Facepalm* I see it now, DGB is scum.
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Devotress wrote:Vaya has only posted once all game, is that the norm for him to lurk this much?
In one game I'm aware of Vaya posted only once or twice and needed to be replaced. Vaya was scum.
p.s. That's a horrible way to meta people.

fos
Really.

Someone asked about Vaya lurking. I stated a fact.

That's a horrible way to meta people? I didn't even try to generalize.

Oh wait - you're probably scum.
Just because someone replaced out as scum in game 1, doesn't make them scum in game 2 when they do the same thing. It actually means nothing, and is a null if anything.
DrippingGoofball wrote: Considering the above, you had time to pay me special attention? It's weird, very weird.

Oh wait - you're scum.
you were right above my post, when scrolling up i was reading superficially, then i looked deeper into your post and knew I had to post right away.
Cobalt wrote:Scum motivation to draw the bulletproof claim: they know who not to target for an NK
Town motivation to draw the bulletproof claim: ???
we know who not to lynch.
Budja wrote:Bulletproof should certainly not claim but I'm not feeling SC-scum either.

vote BC
you just hate me, don't you?
-why am I scum? is it what DGB said?

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Post Post #785 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:42 pm

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um why would we not lynch someone who claims bulletproof?
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Post Post #786 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 12:57 pm

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So, this isn't a catchup post, and I still intend to do a proper catchup some time.

However, to get my priorities right:

What's actually worth reading in the last 11 pages?
Other than Cobalt-vig, have there been any other claims, hints, claims of interesting role-related information?


Reasons for a night kill not to go through (obviously, Cobalt is vig, and almost as obviously he did what he claimed to do):
1) Bulletproof
2) Doctored
3) Roleblocked
4) Jailkept
5) Driven
Of these, I'd say Driver is scummy (not definitively so, but it is likely to do more harm than good as a townie), bulletproof is marginally scummy, and the others are very nearly alignment neutral. I'd like Devotress to claim whether or not she is a driver.

I believe a lynch on elvis would be insanity itself. If she's town, leave her two days and we have two more answers. If she's scum, very likely any guilties she feeds us are true, so she's very helpful catching the other mafia. If I was 100% certain elvis was scum, it would be a tough decision. As it is, lynching her is crazy.

At the end of the day, if elvis is a caught scum cop, she is still far, far more dangerous to the other mafia than us. They need to kill her off. We don't, at least until dangerous numbers start to loom.
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Post Post #787 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:08 pm

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Fishythefish wrote:At the end of the day, if elvis is a caught scum cop, she is still far, far more dangerous to the other mafia than us. They need to kill her off. We don't, at least until dangerous numbers start to loom.
I believe she's likely scum simply because no one tried to stop her investigation, there was no roleblock, jailer, or anything on her.
But you're right I guess, she can still catch the enemy scum team. We just have to take her "townie" claims with a grain of salt untill we eventually lynch her. (if we lynch her and she flips town we've got a bunch of cleared townies, if we lynch her and she flips scum, some of her clears might be scum).


Since you wanted it to be said: I am not a Driver. I'm thinking someone either Jailed myself or Cobalt, or roleblocked Cobalt.
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Post Post #788 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:09 pm

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Can someone outline the case on SerialClergyman for me, or point to a good post that highlights the case?
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Post Post #789 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:10 pm

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Devotress wrote:Can someone outline the case on SerialClergyman for me, or point to a good post that highlights the case?
read page 31
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Post Post #790 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:21 pm

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Oh you're right. Wanting the bulletproof to claim is pretty bad. I guess it's worth a
Vote SerialClergyman

atleast for now.


Later on I might have to re-read through his day one.
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Post Post #791 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:24 pm

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Devotress wrote:
Fishythefish wrote:At the end of the day, if elvis is a caught scum cop, she is still far, far more dangerous to the other mafia than us. They need to kill her off. We don't, at least until dangerous numbers start to loom.
I believe she's likely scum simply because no one tried to stop her investigation, there was no roleblock, jailer, or anything on her.
um explain how this makes her more likely to be scum, please. sure no pro-town blocker would block a claimed cop, so yeah.

Don't think SC is scum atm, don't find the case on him compelling at all.

Plum mentioned BC a few times, calling him 'weird' but rarely saying anything beyond that, never going as far to call him scummy/townie.
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Post Post #792 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:27 pm

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Faraday wrote:
Devotress wrote:
Fishythefish wrote:At the end of the day, if elvis is a caught scum cop, she is still far, far more dangerous to the other mafia than us. They need to kill her off. We don't, at least until dangerous numbers start to loom.
I believe she's likely scum simply because no one tried to stop her investigation, there was no roleblock, jailer, or anything on her.
um explain how this makes her more likely to be scum, please. sure no pro-town blocker would block a claimed cop, so yeah.

Don't think SC is scum atm, don't find the case on him compelling at all.

Plum mentioned BC a few times, calling him 'weird' but rarely saying anything beyond that, never going as far to call him scummy/townie.
She's likely scum because it's likely to me that of 6 scum players it's likely one of them would have had something that could be done to stop her.
Remember Haylen was an empowerer, why didn't the scum empower their killer and kill EK to avoid a doctor protection.
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Post Post #793 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:30 pm

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I'd actually go out on a limb and say that Haylen was
deffinatly
in the same scum group as EK if that scum group didn't killer her, now that I think about it.
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Post Post #794 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:44 pm

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Devotress wrote:I'd actually go out on a limb and say that Haylen was
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not if the empowerer was roleblocked.
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Post Post #795 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:58 pm

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Actually, question
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If the empowerer got killed, would his empower not go off that night, or would the person haylen targeted still have been empowered?
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Post Post #796 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 1:59 pm

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That's hypothetical anyway because they didn't even try to kill EK, Haylen's group killed Vi.
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Post Post #797 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:17 pm

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Devotress wrote:That's hypothetical anyway because they didn't even try to kill EK, Haylen's group killed Vi.
Lol, I was gonna say, how the fuck did you know that.
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Post Post #798 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:19 pm

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Because Haylen's group didn't Kill Haylen, and The vigalante didn't try to kill haylen, so of the 3 night kills the one targetting Vi had to come from haylens group.
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Post Post #799 (ISO) » Sun Dec 27, 2009 2:22 pm

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Or haylen was bussed.
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