Open 184: Friends and Enemies Mafia (Over)

SerialClergyman · Post Post #1150 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:35 pm

Yes, getting a touch ahead of ourselves.

Without talking specifics about your earlier play - was there an identifyable reason your play changed so dramatically?

farside22 · Post Post #1151 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:35 pm

SerialClergyman wrote:Ah - I think I see the failure in communication.

Obviously cases that say if blah flips scum you're likely scum or if blah is innocent you're likely scum are fine individually - it's when there's a case
no matter whether the person is town or scum
that I don't like it.

That wasn't what I was saying but yeah there you go.

As for the mason (the last one that is not claimed in the game) I think it should go unclaimed and I have a really good reason why that I would like not to say.

Ellibereth · Post Post #1152 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:41 pm

SerialClergyman wrote:Yes, getting a touch ahead of ourselves.

Without talking specifics about your earlier play - was there an identifyable reason your play changed so dramatically?

Why so curious?

Farside: Unclaimed today, Unclaimed tomorrow, or what?

farside22 · Post Post #1153 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:51 pm

Ellibereth wrote:
SerialClergyman wrote:Yes, getting a touch ahead of ourselves.

Without talking specifics about your earlier play - was there an identifyable reason your play changed so dramatically?
Why so curious?

Farside: Unclaimed today, Unclaimed tomorrow, or what?

Unclaimed today. Maybe even tomorrow.
I don't see a reason for the mason to claim right now. With 1 mafia and 1 mason out of the game and after shotty's lynch (if he's mafia) then the town is ahead and I would like to use the last mason out there unclaimed.
If shotty is mafia like I believe then this leaves us most likely another mason down (kik) with 1 mafia, 1 mason and 6 vt's in the game tomorrow.
If we mislynch and the last mafia doesn't know who the mason it then there is a higher chance we can have a mason live to the next day.
Day 4 then could be 1 mafia, 1 mason and 4vt's. This may be the day to do a claim then. You have 1 garenteed townie fighting 5 players.
Although I would have to not have the mason claim unless he/she is about to be lynched or if we reach lylo with the hope it is 1 mafia left at that point.

Ellibereth · Post Post #1154 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:01 pm

Kise's on!

PLEASE TAKE THE WONDERFUL HAMMER WE'RE GIVING AWAY!!!!

SerialClergyman · Post Post #1155 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:26 pm

I the mason claims before lylo I'm fine with holding off. It's only when we're actually in lylo and he claims, then there's a counter claim and we've got a 50/50 to lose the game, which is bad times.

kikuchiyo · Post Post #1156 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:03 pm

Shotty: Now that you are being lynched, do you think it might be beneficial to do any scumhunting? Any other ideas on who might be scum?

Ojanen · Post Post #1157 (ISO) » Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:48 pm

unvote

I buy the claim.
Sorry for all the pressuring kiku, just couldn't get where you were coming from.
I'm good with a Shotty lynch. Content tonight when I have some more time.

Kise: We NEED content from your slot.

kikuchiyo · Post Post #1158 (ISO) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:02 am

I realize this is ironic coming from me, but we shouldn't be hammering until we get content from the lurking slots.

No worries, Oj, I need to work on my game. This is the first time I have had this type of role.

I wanted to claim right away today to avoid the shenanigans, but Albert thought it would be good to let my wagon build and watch the interactions. That was my main drive for trying to pit Shotty vs. Serial.

Someone should unvote. The lurkers are so in the background that I can't even remember who they are.

DarkLightA · Post Post #1159 (ISO) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:26 am

If someone can conflict with kikuchiyo's claim then please claim NOW.

Ellibereth · Post Post #1160 (ISO) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:00 am

*mumbles about the lurker slots*

temporary

Unvote

farside22 · Post Post #1161 (ISO) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:09 am

DarkLightA wrote:If someone can conflict with kikuchiyo's claim then please claim NOW.

Are you trying to out the last unclaimed mason after my reason on why this is bad?

kikuchiyo · Post Post #1162 (ISO) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:16 am

Shotty's silence is deafening.

I think DLA is saying: "If kiku is not a mason, then one of the masons should counterclaim." I agree with him. If someone wants to counterclaim me they should do it now. If, for some reason I am alive tomorrow and someone attempts to counter me then, they should be autolynched.

DarkLightA · Post Post #1163 (ISO) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:27 am

kikuchiyo wrote:I think DLA is saying: "If kiku is not a mason, then one of the masons should counterclaim." I agree with him. If someone wants to counterclaim me they should do it now. If, for some reason I am alive tomorrow and someone attempts to counter me then, they should be autolynched.

Exactly

farside22 · Post Post #1164 (ISO) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 5:38 am

DarkLightA wrote:
kikuchiyo wrote:I think DLA is saying: "If kiku is not a mason, then one of the masons should counterclaim." I agree with him. If someone wants to counterclaim me they should do it now. If, for some reason I am alive tomorrow and someone attempts to counter me then, they should be autolynched.
Exactly

Sorry I misunderstood

DarkLightA · Post Post #1165 (ISO) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 7:48 am

Kik = innocent.
Shotty = scum.

You're welcome =D

Scigatt · Post Post #1166 (ISO) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:24 am

SerialClergyman wrote:
Scigatt wrote:Who's your partner, kiku?

It's better to do this now and get a confirmable town than later and have a questionable town.(Assuming kiku likely NK)

I'm withholding judgment until that(or somebody mentions why we shouldn't reveal her partner.)
This only makes sense if there's no way we can lynch one of the two people claiming the role. Provided her partner claims tomorrow we can believe the claim, because otherwise there would be a counterclaim. If there IS a counter claim, we can lynch whoever we suspect the most first and are garunteed scum that day or the next.

Ok, I understand that.

DarkLightA · Post Post #1167 (ISO) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:30 am

Scigatt, why is your vote where it is?

Ellibereth · Post Post #1168 (ISO) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 11:35 am

I pray that Sci has more to say.

Scigatt · Post Post #1169 (ISO) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 12:36 pm

Ellibereth wrote:I pray that Sci has more to say.

Sorry, was away for a few hours(Less than a full day). I was just looking at SC's iso for his case on Shotty. Despite my read on SC, I think it's a good case. I have no qualms with anyone hammering at the moment.

Unvote,Vote:Shotty to the Body

Ellibereth · Post Post #1170 (ISO) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 12:55 pm

Kise's posted 12 times in other topics since the last time here and has yet to say anything of worth here either....

*headdesk**headdesk*

Scigatt · Post Post #1171 (ISO) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 3:18 pm

I say we don't wait on him unless we think we might change the lynch.

Ellibereth · Post Post #1172 (ISO) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 3:25 pm

Scigatt wrote:I say we don't wait on him unless we think we might change the lynch.

You do know we're talking about the player slot with close to 0 contribution thus far?

SerialClergyman · Post Post #1173 (ISO) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 3:31 pm

Epically scummy player slot by the way. Kise posting in other threads does little to appease my suspicion of kittymo, especially given she replaced out as soon as I called her on her catchup post being scummy and Kise hasn't shown his face.

Ellibereth · Post Post #1174 (ISO) » Sat Dec 26, 2009 4:10 pm

Has anyone here played with Kise before?
I might just go through his games to see if he has a history of lurking...