Kingdom Hearts Mafia - Game Over!

[DTMaster]

@Gorrad

You forget about Cobalt's background information on Mickey. He did a follow up explaination on it. HMMMMMZ? Can we focus less on the gun, and more on:

1. Cobalt said he was a lie-detector.
2. Now hes Mickey with a day-kill on SSK
3. Now Cobalt said Ice can kill SSK on the failed kill on SSK.

THE EFF?

Cobalt lied about his claim. He claimed trying to kill SSK. Both players are liars. The correct action:

Day kill Cobalt.
Lynch SSK.
Tomorrow hunt more scum.

[RayFrost]

I support DTM's hypothesis

[Shotty to the Body]

I also agree with DTM here.

[RayFrost]

I disagree with Shotty here but still agree with DTM.

[Shotty to the Body]

Lol?

[Kdub]

@Kdub

You are withholding information that everything, minus the gun, fits with

King Mickey's flavour

. Why?

The flavor of Mickey with the gun is humorous, but it's irrelevant. I knew Cobalt was lying as soon as he said he was from Disney Castle. It didn't matter what character or flavor he claimed after that.

You are also fricking ignoring the scummiest part of Cobalt's claim: SSK was shot. AKA

COBALT SHOT SSK and FAKE CLAIMED LIE DETECTOR. THAT MEANS SSK IS KILL IMMUNE

That is a fair point and one I had not considered. My original theory was that Cobalt was telling the truth about his ability (lying about Mickey of course), and caught SSK, but the two of them being on different scum teams. The idea of him having a daykill and SSK being immune makes sense though. The order in which we kill them probably isn't that crucial, as long as we kill them today.

[raider8169]

I havent a clue how the day-vig works. If it is a pro-town role I assume it would need so many votes on a person before being able to be used.

Either way I do not think a Cobalt lynch or kill is warrented until after the flib of SSK.

[DTMaster]

The order maters. Its basically a trial by blood.

Recall my earlier question about preference to kill SSK or lynch him. Cobalt prefered a lynch but:

He said this

As far as I know SSK is not kill-proof.

Now the eff? Hes Mickey with a gun? Who shot SSK. Who said he wasn't kill-immune.

The behaviour I expected town-Cobalt:

I shot SSK. He's kill immune which means he's lying. I think hes GF or SK. We should lynch him. I'm OSV/vig/killer. Shoot me or xxxx scummy person to verify.

So we do this:

Kill cobalt to confirm.
Kill SSK because his play is awful.
Hunt tomorrow.

[xRECKONERx]

Wait, wait... what the FUCK is happening? Did I skip a page or something?

All I know is I wanted to lynch Cobalt awhile ago, so can this happen, please?

Vote: Cobalt

[DTMaster]

Ok. Raider

Which is true:

a. Cobalt can lie detect.
b. Cobalt shot to lie detect.
c. All of the above.

Now:
Cobalt claimed two conflicted claims. How are both pro-town actions?

[DTMaster]

@Reck:

Cobalt claimed to be Mickey with a Gun who Shot SSK.

[raider8169]

Ok. Raider

Which is true:

a. Cobalt can lie detect.
b. Cobalt shot to lie detect.
c. All of the above.

Now:
Cobalt claimed two conflicted claims. How are both pro-town actions?

From what he claimed he never said he "shot" him to kill him just to see if he was being truthful. If I am wrong please point out where it was said otherwise. I dont see how that is turned into he is non-killable. I get the sense that you are turning his words around. Agian, if I missed something please point it out.

[xRECKONERx]

OOOH I only saw him claiming to be Mickey with a gun, I didn't know he claimed to have shot SSK.

[RayFrost]

Relevant posts:

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 75#2028775

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 85#2028085

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 75#2028075

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 91#2028091

[Plum]

DTM is right. Fire when ready, Iec.

[DrippingGoofball]

I agree.

SHOOT COBALT
LYNCH MAFIASSK

[Cobalt]

Um, DTM, that is NOT what I said. My action does the following:
I send in a claim post by a player.
If that player LIED, the shot misses and he lives.
If that player did NOT like, the shot kills him.
Why are you treating this as two different actions? SSK is NOT kill immune. My ability IS a lie-detector that kills if the post was not a lie.

[wolframnhart]

Um, DTM, that is NOT what I said. My action does the following:
I send in a claim post by a player.
If that player LIED, the shot misses and he lives.
If that player did NOT like, the shot kills him.
Why are you treating this as two different actions? SSK is NOT kill immune. My ability IS a lie-detector that kills if the post was not a lie.

That just seems so ass backwards, why would the ability kill a player telling the truth? Why not kill him if he is lying?

[Cobalt]

How should I know? I didn't write the role. I just caught scum with it.

[RayFrost]

And how does a gun made to

help the light

do something that

helps the darkness

?

Slicey is too awesome a mod to be this dumb.

[Cobalt]

It doesn't help the darkness. I just caught scum with it!

[Plum]

Look, Kdub just claimed that Cobalt was lying. We have Iec kill Cobalt. If Cobalt is scum, great; we can go on and lynch SSK. If Cobalt flips town, we have two scum caught. Cobalt, you needn't resist your lynch if you're Town, as you will have basically ensured the death of

two

scumbags. That's something to celebrate, man!

That said you're scum. Nice flailing, though.

[RayFrost]

Look, Kdub just claimed that Cobalt was lying. We have Iec kill Cobalt. If Cobalt is scum, great; we can go on and lynch SSK. If Cobalt flips town, we have two scum caught. Cobalt, you needn't resist your lynch if you're Town, as you will have basically ensured the death of

two

scumbags. That's something to celebrate, man!

That said you're scum. Nice flailing, though.

/win

[Kise]

Unvote

Not sure if SSK is kill immune but it slipped my mind. Safest thing (as others have said) is to kill Cobalt to understand the role first.

*looks at watch*

[raider8169]

Why not use the day kill for SSK first and then decide from there? Is there any real reason why this wouldnt be the wiser move?