Mini 892 - Mayor Mafia (GAME OVER)

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

@ DDD: Why is Cathart a town read?

It'd be one hell of a power bus from him yesterday when there were plenty of chances for him to jump off for other low hanging targets as we saw other players do. Since I'm assuming he can't be scum with Monkey AND Hoopla AND Kyle there would've been at least one townie he could've switched to voting. All in all I think it's unlikely that anyone would bus that solidly when so many other opportunities presented themselves especially considering Monkey was a scum PR.

[Hoopla]

I think SaintKerrigan is suspicious based on his timely unvote of Monkeyman on page 26, when it looked as if he could get away with possibly lynching me instead.

Well this really doesn't look good given Kerrigan's mason claim just a few hours before. How do you overlook that?

Oops, I wasn't really paying attention!

I take back my suspicion of SaintKerrigan, carry on.

[Hoopla]

Hoopla, have you joined any other games besides this one since Commie Mafia and is so links plz

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Hi DDD, here is a link to 863 and 865. I've also been in 869, but that isn't finished yet, but you can look there too if you want.[/url]

[charter]

Hoopla, who are you suspicious of?

[MichelSableheart]

Third vote count of day 2:

charter (0)

kyle99 (1)

xRECKONERx

Moai Interceptor Cannons (0)

Debonair Danny DiPietro (0)

Hoopla (2)

Socrates, SaintKerrigan

Socrates (0)

xRECKONERx (2)

charter, Col. Cathart

Col.Cathart (0)

SaintKerrigan (0)

Not voting anyone (4)

kyle99, Moai Interceptor Cannons, Debonair Danny DiPietro, Hoopla

With 9 votes available, it takes 5 votes to lynch someone.

If at deadline no mayority has been reached, Socrates will decide who gets lynched, regardless of the vote count.

[SaintKerrigan]

Hoopla: I went back through ISO, and I found a few things that stood out to me:

- Claimed in her 13th post that she didn't think MonkeyMan was a good lynch because he was more likely to claim cop as cop, versus claim cop as scum. However, she doesn't unvote him in that post.

- After being met with much disapproval, she abandons the lynch-the-mayor strategy, yet doesn't seem interested in trying to elect a town mayor.

- She votes Monkey out of "self-preservation." Since when are town players so worried about keeping themselves alive over doing actual scumhunting?

I also just realized how heavily Hoopla is appealing to emotion, what with saying she screwed it up for the town and such things.

Hoopla could possibly be an SK. She's not playing like she's town, in my opinion, but if she were scum I would've expected her to jump off the MonkeyMan wagon and onto Kyle; thus, an SK.

Vote: Hoopla.

Since Hoopla hasn't been inclined to answer my case against her, I decided to put it all together in one nice little post and see if she'll answer it. I've also got a few more questions for her:

- Why are you not paying attention to things in this game (I.E. the fact that I claimed mason)?
- Was your claim that you never fakeclaimed as scum a joke or not?
- Why have you declined to try and scumhunt at the beginning of Day 2 (besides your feeble attempt to put suspicion on me)?

[Socrates]

@Kyle: Who are you suspicious of today?

Hoopla could possibly be an SK. She's not playing like she's town, in my opinion, but if she were scum I would've expected her to jump off the MonkeyMan wagon and onto Kyle; thus, an SK.

Vote: Hoopla.

@ DDD: Why is Cathart a town read?

Meh. A Hoopla-Monkey scum team is one of the few situations that I wouldn't be surprised to see scum decide not to drop a bus. She would have already had to put her vote there for self preservation even though Monkey was a scum power role, and it was pretty obvious that Monkey was doomed to die at some indeterminate time in the future. Since trying to save monkey would have been a hopeless exercise and if she did hop over to Kyle, and then Kyle flipped town and Monkey flipped scum, she would be looking at a pretty tight spot, it would be reasonable for scum to decide to go for a distancing tactic. And I have already said how I feel the antagonism between her and Monkey as the day ended seemed artificial. I mean, come on. "Nice job fooling them Hoopla."?

[SaintKerrigan]

Well either way, I think she's scum.

[kyle99]

@Kyle: Who are you suspicious of today?

Hoopla could possibly be an SK. She's not playing like she's town, in my opinion, but if she were scum I would've expected her to jump off the MonkeyMan wagon and onto Kyle; thus, an SK.

Vote: Hoopla.

@ DDD: Why is Cathart a town read?

Meh. A Hoopla-Monkey scum team is one of the few situations that I wouldn't be surprised to see scum decide not to drop a bus. She would have already had to put her vote there for self preservation even though Monkey was a scum power role, and it was pretty obvious that Monkey was doomed to die at some indeterminate time in the future. Since trying to save monkey would have been a hopeless exercise and if she did hop over to Kyle, and then Kyle flipped town and Monkey flipped scum, she would be looking at a pretty tight spot, it would be reasonable for scum to decide to go for a distancing tactic. And I have already said how I feel the antagonism between her and Monkey as the day ended seemed artificial. I mean, come on. "Nice job fooling them Hoopla."?

Right now, I'm thinking a Monkey-xRECKONERx-Hoopla scum-team seems most likely. xRECKONERx keeps wanting to lynch me and won't give any reasons, and Hoopla is playing anti-town, but she voted to lynch monkey, but this could have been a bus.

[SaintKerrigan]

@ Kyle: Do you think we have a Vigilante then instead of a Serial Killer?

[kyle99]

@ Kyle: Do you think we have a Vigilante then instead of a Serial Killer?

Not really, because I don't think either SerialClergyMan or nhammen were at the top of anyone's scum list. Either we have a serial killer or a dumb Vigilante imo.

[SaintKerrigan]

So then why do you think we have 3 scum + 1 Serial Killer? That seems a bit overpowered against the town, in my opinion, having two anti-town killing roles, as well as a roleblocker. I think we either have 3 scum + Town Vigilante or 2 scum + 1 Serial Killer.

[kyle99]

So then why do you think we have 3 scum + 1 Serial Killer? That seems a bit overpowered against the town, in my opinion, having two anti-town killing roles, as well as a roleblocker. I think we either have 3 scum + Town Vigilante or 2 scum + 1 Serial Killer.

If it's a 2 scum + 1 serial killer, I think Monkey/Reck scumteam and Hoopla as the serial killer works out well. If not, I think Monkey/Reck/Hoopla works well aswell. I just don't see why a Vigilante would want to kill nhamen of SerialClergyman.

[xRECKONERx]

lol omgus kyle

lol me not giving reasons

lol this altogether

[Hoopla]

Hoopla, who are you suspicious of?

I think I'm suspicious of you, and kyle, mostly because I don't think Reck, Socrates, Saint or Cathart are suspicious.

Actually, I think I am suspicious of Maoi too.

[Hoopla]

- Why are you not paying attention to things in this game (I.E. the fact that I claimed mason)?
- Was your claim that you never fakeclaimed as scum a joke or not?
- Why have you declined to try and scumhunt at the beginning of Day 2 (besides your feeble attempt to put suspicion on me)?

1) I don't know. I'm sorry, I just haven't been interested in playing. It's more a me thing than anything else I'd say.
2) Yes. I thought that was pretty obvious, considering half the players here were in Commie Mafia.
3) I haven't declined. I never said 'HEY NOT GONNA BOTHER DOING ANYTHING TODAY'. I understand it looks this way though.

Do you have other questions for me?

[Hoopla]

If there was a vigilante, why am I (and to a lesser extent kyle) still alive after Night 1. I don't remember anyone really being that suspicious of nhammen.

[Socrates]

If there was a vigilante, why am I (and to a lesser extent kyle) still alive after Night 1. I don't remember anyone really being that suspicious of nhammen.

Charter, is this a scum slip or am I just crazy?

[Hoopla]

If there was a vigilante, why am I (and to a lesser extent kyle) still alive after Night 1. I don't remember anyone really being that suspicious of nhammen.

Charter, is this a scum slip or am I just crazy?

I don't understand. Explain to me.

Also, Charter wouldn't be that stupid to shoot nhammen if he was town aligned.

[Hoopla]

Now that I think about it, I really think this set-up only works with a Vig. This gives town the opportunity to off a scum-mayor at night. It's a ridiculous mechanic if you've got three different factions in the game. What's the point of adding in a fancy mechanic if you've already got a set-up with a mish-mish of roles. I think we're likely to be playing in mostly vanilla set-up with 3 scum, vig, 2 masons. Maybe one other role. Anything more and you overcomplicate a game with a retarded mechanic.

[Socrates]

If there was a vigilante, why am I (and to a lesser extent kyle) still alive after Night 1. I don't remember anyone really being that suspicious of nhammen.

Charter, is this a scum slip or am I just crazy?

I don't understand. Explain to me.

Also, Charter wouldn't be that stupid to shoot nhammen if he was town aligned.

You seem to know that SerialClergyman was the mafia kill. I see no reason to assume that.

[Hoopla]

You seem to know that SerialClergyman was the mafia kill. I see no reason to assume that.

Who other than me would shoot SC?

[Socrates]

You seem to know that SerialClergyman was the mafia kill. I see no reason to assume that.

Who other than me would shoot SC?

Anyone who thought he looked pretty bad after hopping off of the Monkeywagon to champion letting him live a day while pushing an alternative lynch.

Who would shoot Nhammen?

[Hoopla]

Oh okay, I see your point now. I assumed SC would be more threatening than nhammen to the scum team.

[Socrates]