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Post Post #600 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:12 am

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Players needed to lynch: 12


Benmage
- 1 - Cobalt - (L-11)
BloodCovenent
- 5 - Pomegranate, Seacore, chamber, FishytheFish, budja - (L-7)
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- 2 - SerialClergyman, Haylen - (L-10)
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Cobalt wrote:you require that elvis target scum (a 35% chance if town, 18% if scum) or be lynched, then also require that the doc NOT protect her? The odds of doc being scum with her are quite low. But the odds of either of them being town are 68%. You are setting up lynches on POWER ROLES based on nightactions and not posting. Awful, just awful.
Check your math, the odds of elvis_knits being town is closer to 0%.
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Post Post #601 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:14 am

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Post Post #602 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:21 am

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Faraday 589 wrote:
Cobalt wrote:The mod sent her a scum role PM. She has knowledge of her scumteam, the ability to communicate with them out of thread, and access to a factional nightkill.
incredibly enough i think i'm sold due to the bolded.

Unvote Vote Devotress
no one wants to wagon elvis it seems :cry:
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We already know Devotress and farside are scum, but Coug is the one with the uncontested wagon.
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Post Post #603 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:22 am

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Post Post #604 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:27 am

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Wooot. I'm caught up. I did it pretty quickly...i might have to relook up certain issues if i dont know what people are talking about.

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Post Post #605 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:30 am

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Benmage wrote:Wooot. I'm caught up. I did it pretty quickly...i might have to relook up certain issues if i dont know what people are talking about.

Anywhose, any questions for me?
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Post Post #606 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:34 am

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Benmage wrote:Wooot. I'm caught up. I did it pretty quickly...i might have to relook up certain issues if i dont know what people are talking about.

Anywhose, any questions for me?
Why aren't you voting StrangerCoug?
Hes town.
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Post Post #607 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:35 am

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Benmage wrote:Hes town.
Why?
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Post Post #608 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:38 am

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Xylthixlm wrote:
Benmage wrote:Hes town.
Why?
Gut read. I've seen his scum play. His play reads town to me.

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Post Post #609 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 11:54 am

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Hey elvis you forgot too breadcrumb your innocent.
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Post Post #610 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:31 pm

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BloodCovenent wrote:So wait... did Coug put up a case on Dramonic based on dramonic voting EK, and then Coug said he couldn't find a case on dramonic?

Unvote:
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That's not quite correct. "I can't find the case on dramonic" means "There may be a case on dramonic, but I'm having a hard time figuring out where it's been posted." "I don't see a case on dramonic," which is what I said, means "I don't believe the attacks on dramonic are legitimate." Which means I called my own case on dramonic illegitimate because I forgot about it.
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Cobalt wrote:you require that elvis target scum (a 35% chance if town, 18% if scum) or be lynched, then also require that the doc NOT protect her? The odds of doc being scum with her are quite low. But the odds of either of them being town are 68%. You are setting up lynches on POWER ROLES based on nightactions and not posting. Awful, just awful.

I'm telling the doc not to be a retard. I want to lynch Elvis right now because I think shes scum...but i'm willing to let scum NK. If they dont we lynch her tomorrow.
You're also telling the scum not to kill elvis_knits because they will have a free lynch tomorrow that way. Do you know how damaging to the town that is?

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Post Post #611 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:33 pm

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StrangerCoug wrote:
Benmage wrote:
Cobalt wrote:you require that elvis target scum (a 35% chance if town, 18% if scum) or be lynched, then also require that the doc NOT protect her? The odds of doc being scum with her are quite low. But the odds of either of them being town are 68%. You are setting up lynches on POWER ROLES based on nightactions and not posting. Awful, just awful.

I'm telling the doc not to be a retard. I want to lynch Elvis right now because I think shes scum...but i'm willing to let scum NK. If they dont we lynch her tomorrow.
You're also telling the scum not to kill elvis_knits because they will have a free lynch tomorrow that way. Do you know how damaging to the town that is?

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Go go go bandwagon!
Not necessarily. Because if she finds a scum, we might as well lynch that person. So the scum risk being outed.
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Post Post #612 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:38 pm

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StrangerCoug wrote:You're also telling the scum not to kill elvis_knits because they will have a free lynch tomorrow that way. Do you know how damaging to the town that is?
We could just lynch elvis_knits today.
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Post Post #613 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:39 pm

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She has to guess scum right. Even if she's town, the odds are not in her favor if she were to pick at random (otherwise, we would already have lost), which I hope she doesn't, and even then she can't find the SK. If everything else in this post goes over your head, at least know that you are being unreasonable towards her—you want her to play perfectly, at least tonight.
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Post Post #614 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:40 pm

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Also,
StrangerCoug wrote:You're also telling the scum not to kill
the cop
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Post Post #615 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:41 pm

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StrangerCoug wrote:She has to guess scum right. Even if she's town
That's your problem right there. elvis isn't town.
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Post Post #616 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:41 pm

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Does the wording matter? Nobody's countering her.
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Post Post #617 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:42 pm

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EBWOP: #616 was intended as a response to #614.
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Post Post #618 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:44 pm

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StrangerCoug wrote:Does the wording matter? Nobody's countering her.
He's telling scum
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Post Post #619 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:46 pm

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StrangerCoug wrote:She has to guess scum right. Even if she's town, the odds are not in her favor if she were to pick at random (otherwise, we would already have lost), which I hope she doesn't, and even then she can't find the SK. If everything else in this post goes over your head, at least know that you are being unreasonable towards her—you want her to play perfectly, at least tonight.
Yes, i agree i am being unreasonable to her. But i'd much rather just lynch her today for being scum.
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Post Post #620 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:56 pm

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Xylthixlm wrote:
StrangerCoug wrote:Does the wording matter? Nobody's countering her.
He's telling scum
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and you think this is a
bad idea
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You took this out of context. Benmage is not allowing for the possibility that she is town. (Neither are you, but you're not the one I'm attacking at the moment.) elvis_knits should be given a chance; if she is scum, it will obviate itself later.
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Post Post #621 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:57 pm

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StrangerCoug wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:
StrangerCoug wrote:Does the wording matter? Nobody's countering her.
He's telling scum
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and you think this is a
bad idea
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You took this out of context. Benmage is not allowing for the possibility that she is town. (Neither are you, but you're not the one I'm attacking at the moment.) elvis_knits should be given a chance; if she is scum, it will obviate itself later.
If shes town, she'll be nk'd. Nuff said.
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Post Post #622 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:58 pm

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Benmage wrote:
StrangerCoug wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:
StrangerCoug wrote:Does the wording matter? Nobody's countering her.
He's telling scum
not to kill the cop
and you think this is a
bad idea
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You took this out of context. Benmage is not allowing for the possibility that she is town. (Neither are you, but you're not the one I'm attacking at the moment.) elvis_knits should be given a chance; if she is scum, it will obviate itself later.
If shes town, she'll be nk'd. Nuff said.
And if she's scum...

(Also, this line of conversation is
really
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Post Post #623 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:58 pm

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EBWOP:
And if she's scum...?
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Post Post #624 (ISO) » Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:58 pm

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Scum can simply refuse to NK her and there's your false positive.
That's the problem.
They can afford to lose one if it turns out not to work.
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