Newbie 871 - Game Over Town Win

[Yankee]

V/LA UNTIL THE 24TH

[boberz]

Yankee that last post was very bad, that sounded like you were delighted with the assesment and trying to force a mislynch on tyrope. That is how i read it anyway?

Good question about ksen though.

Annahie im not risking a mislynh this early, it would not prove your guess about the two of them anyway. many seem to think it is probably you and one of them so the most logical kill is you. Not that im commiting yet.

[Patrick]

Yankee's question makes sense from a town perspective as well.

Mod

: You missed my vote for Tyrope in your votecount.

boberz, can you elaborate on "Tyrope is the best kill on paper" and "the most logical kill is you [Anmachie]"? On an individual level Tyrope seems scummier to me than Annachie. Annachie at least sometimes makes posts that make me feel he's genuinely looking for scum, Tyrope seems more like he's playing with the aim of blending in. I see that as more of a scum mindset, though it is true that townies sometimes do it as well (wrongly).

[Tyrope]

just posting this in advance:

V/LA

between 24th and 27th.

[Tyrope]

i just realized this, Yankee is gone until Christmas, probably not posting on Christmas either... trying to avoid us for a week?

[boberz]

tyrope, if i was awake enough to count votes you just earnt yourself another one. read carfeully.

[boberz]

sorry yankee tis me that needs to read carefully i retract that.

Meanwhile i will address patrick when im awake.

Basically i am saying that tyrope looks to many most scummy but annachie (who is not far behind in terms of scumminess) is a better kill because we can learn more. I also dont think we have a yankee tyrope pair here meaning i think annachie is almost certainly in a pair. I will elaborate on that last bit later,

[boberz]

i meant to apologise to tyrope there not yankee, you can tell im tired.

[Tyrope]

uh, I'm confused, you apologize to me, but i have no idea why, care to elaborate (in the morning please, go to bed first ;P)

[starkmoon]

Yankee 2 Tyrope, Annachie
boberz
Tyrope 2 Yankee, Patrick
Annachie 1 ksen
ksen
Ether
Patrick


not voting

boberz
Ether

Just a reminder that there is one additional week for deadlines in all my games that span the holidays because your mod is going to be pretty much V/LA over that time, and I figured this way just made most sense.

[Annachie]

Ever cleaned milk out of a lap top? Bloody kids.

Boberz. Then lynch me first.
Seriously. As long as we lynch both scum it doesn't matter if I go first.

[Tyrope]

whoa... did Annachie just slip up there? he basicly said "I'm scum, go ahead and kill me"

[Patrick]

It looks to me like he's saying that you and Yankee are scum and he doesn't mind being lynched as long as we get the two of you after.

Either Annachie is town or craftier than I expected. I'll look more closely at the voting between Yankee and Tyrope later.

[boberz]

I apologised tyrope because i thought you had completely misread and made a massive scumslip. I then threatened to vote you (and would of done if i was awake) but then reread myself realised i was in error. Then I apologised to yankee, no idea why. Then apologised to you for both errors. I was tired. That being said i still am.

Annachie you made a good good post there, but i have seen that move pulled in f2f games a lot so i am not writing you off. I do not have it down to just the three of you. As far as i am concerned ether was very safe then did a couple of dodgy things which i mentioned and has now not been on for a while (with legitimate reason i know) so she is not out of my books. Patrick is a good player and can have fooled us but i dont think so. ksen i have not ruled out either, so tbh i dont have this down as a three way if it was we have more or less won.

[ksen]

whoa... did Annachie just slip up there? he basicly said "I'm scum, go ahead and kill me"

No, I can't believe someone would slip up that badly.

It reads to me as if he's saying if lynching him will move us closer to getting the scum team than lynch me and get on with finding the scum players.

To me that was the pretty obvious read so I'm not sure how to read your ZOMG! post.

[Patrick]

Looking back, a Tyrope/Yankee pair does seem rather unlikely.

ksen, what's your read on Tyrope?

[boberz]

Doing my mass reading for this notebook which aint gonna ever finish i dont have the time. i think we might have to annachies. The distracted annachie who makes little effort to contribute original scum huntingy stuff, sometimes overreacts sometimes completely misses or chooses not to respond to things. And the aware annachie who plays very well if hard to read, pulling plays (such as the vote on me) out form nowhere. I think he may be scum because of the assertion of the tyrope yankee partnership, You seem to agree with me on the unlikelyhood of that patrick, i am keen to hear ethers views on whether yankee and tyrope are a likely team.

[Tyrope]

you guys are right, now that i re-read 560 it doesn't seem like a slip-up, more a misunderstanding from me... srry guys.

[boberz]

Tyrope I think your scum. Your reaction to my vote and annachies alleged slip (that wasnt) screams grasping at straws to me.

I will now put you to L-1, if theres a lyncher before ether comes back i will consider you scum.

Vote Tyrope

Do you think it is possible that I am scum with patrick tyrope?

[Tyrope]

Everything is possible, but i have a strong feeling that yankee is scum, maybe you're scum with him, but i'm not sure of that...

Anyway, i have nothing to say to state my innocence, however, as a last wish i want the Lyncher to look trough my posts before lynching.

[ksen]

ksen, what's your read on Tyrope?

Like I said in #564 his OMGUS or whatever you want to call it was pretty suspicious to me. I'm willing to switch my vote from Annachie to Tyrope but I think that'd be a lynch with boberz's vote on him and I don't want to end the day prematurely.

@mod

-- can we get a vote count? thx

[Annachie]

Ksen, if you or Ether follow Boberz as things now stand, that would be a lynch.

Anti-prod mostly, because I'm busy with X-mas for 8 kids and more crap thatn I'd normally care to deal with.

[boberz]

ksen please dont hammer untill ether gets back, and longer. But the l1 did the trick.

My aim there was to put tyrope under pressure. Then at the end of him give him a very unlikely way out (ie me being scum with patrick) if he bit he would have been scummy if he didnt less scummy (obviously depending on how he did it).

As it was he half bit by working me into a possible partnership with yankee, presumably because he wants consistency with his play earlier today. He asks the person to read through his posts. I will do that now in iso, but i suspect this may be to try and delay the inevitable. He is my choice to lynch today I expect.

[boberz]

read 7 pages very quickly, there was a lot in there to read.

post 2 (tyrope in iso) accuses me whilst most cleared me. Does this prove he didnt read well? is he right and everyone else wrong on me?

non commital to a laughable extent on annachie #3 in iso (i had plenty of thoughts on him by then)

changes his view on me very quickly with no attempt at justifying his early attack

he is noncommital on nearly everyone in #3

accuses me of a revenge vote #4, when it was the first proper vote.

in dont get how #4 notes on incog make him a 4.5, if anything his notes had him as scummy. Tyrope is just guessing now!

after all that effort states its not a solid theory. HE IS YET TO CIMMIT To ANYTHIN POST 4 in game, after requests

#6 newbie excuse. (i dont think valid because all but 3 of us are now newbies so why mention it.)

wrong in #10 annachie is good enough to know we werent gonna not-lynch. This is a poor attack and makes me wonder whether it could be a distancing from partner (second time i have thought this)

#12 was i tunnelling or not?

more or less admits to bandwagoning ray post 13/14, not necessarily bad but ... #15 If true, careless. I should have picked up on this earlier.

no value in #16 need reasons (and more or less copies of everyone else anyway.)

if tyrope has read this far i challenge him to tell us his favourite animal

i had forgotten about my #497 but i still believe it and it still fits

#18 to protective as to how it will make him look

I have looked at this from the point of view of thinking he is scum, but even so i think he is scum.

Tyrope's posts have got much shorter.

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Tyrope, can you point to three instances where you have been overtly pro-town?

I think he is scum, probably with annachie (i have been saying that for a while)

Tyrope to save yourself i advise you to post your reads on everyone with reasoning please.

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I realise this is long i will bold the three most important points in that mass of writing

[Tyrope]

if tyrope has read this far i challenge him to tell us his favourite animal

Cats.

Tyrope's posts have got much shorter.

Christmas is eating my time away, most of the time i have like 5 minute breaks to read and post...
Tyrope, can you point to three instances where you have been overtly pro-town?[/quote]
that would require me to read back, as it's 4AM now, i shall put this off for later, if i get back to this before my death, ofc.

Tyrope to save yourself i advise you to post your reads on everyone with reasoning please.

Fair enough, shall do this soon (not now, reason see above)