Flash Mafia: You won!

[Porochaz]

Thank you.

Twilight/Tomorrow I am interested to know what happened with tajo and I want AGOTI to respond to my case. I also want to here rofl's case against me.

[crypto]

And Bunny gets dangled.

[Porochaz]

Oh yes, I do want Bunny to show evidence of your tunneling as I have thought in the past you have been firing bullets everywhere.

[a girl on the internet]

I want AGOTI to respond to my case.

but it's so biiiiiiiig >_<

ok, i'll start now:

- putting words into elvis's mouth

this never happened.

here is how the conversation went:

me: snow bunny is pushing a wagon without committing a vote, that's scummy
elvis: prozac did that too
me: you're right, prozac is scummy too.

at no point did i suggest that elvis was saying prozac was scummy. it is in fact blatantly obvious that this never happened. this is a totally ridiculous accusation, tbh. even if it was based on actual reality, what would scum-me actually gain from putting words into elvis's mouth?

don't feel like goin through the rest right now, maybe tomorrow. i bet there's some zingers in there tho!

[Snow_Bunny]

Mod: I'm having serious connection issues, so I'm a bit of LA for now. I'll try to fix this as soon as possible.

ok

[Porochaz]

- putting words into elvis's mouth
- being generally naive about voting habits in regards to mufasa early on
- using absolutes to describe ray
- her general posting style
- lack of any serious reasoning "thats a dumb wagon"
- reasons for joining the snow bunny wagon were utter crap
- the omgus against me (which I did mention before)
- iso 5 with past posts having been mentioned
- pretty much what she says in iso 7

@AGOTI, why are you suprised that Im annoyed at you "being sure" someone is town? Surely you know its terrible play.

- calls mbf scummy in iso 8 purely because she doesnt understand what he is saying but doesnt ask for it to be explained, and her first reason is utter bullshit (slowing down the progression of RVS) in fact her only reason that could possibly hold up isnt hers.
- at the end of iso 8 she states
"you gotta find some sorta scummy point to decide who to pressure, but that's mostly just cuz no one feels any pressure from totally random votes."
Yet she hasnt really found any scummy points about anyone prefering to latch onto others points mostly. She hasn put any pressure on anyone or followed it up beyond mindlessly bandwagoning. She calls herself "wagon-happy" and what we are doing is a "merry go round of rotating wagons" suggestion that it is random and shes not particularly wanting it to change. Fact is, here she is talking about early game, yet as far as Im aware she hasnt been putting down ANY votes on who she thinks is scum rather to pressure them but never taking it any further (ie.questioning, stating a case of her own) so she is quite hypocritical here.

And yeah ive mentioned it fairly heavily but there is a lack of content in any of her posts. There is a lot of "crap fluff", there is a lot of pinching other peoples reasoning to vote but there is no questioning, there is no actual scum hunting. The game is moving on and she is not. She doesnt post enough to be consistent yet posts just enough not to be called lurking...

Also GC beforehand I also made a post in 229 giving further reasons about why I disliked AGOTI.

Hi. Heres the list to help you. Im also adding another that I missed out earlier

-misrepresented me about my action around ray. See e_k iso 8.

Also reading over this post:

Oh, one thing I noticed and I don't think anyone has pointed out, is that prozac refused to place a vote right before snow bunny refused to place a vote and everyone jumped on snow bunny, and nobody said anything about prozac. I would like to know what the difference is. I only mentioned snow bunny because I didn't like her third party comment... but on the field of not voting, snow bunny should not be mentioned without mentioning prozac.

No where did e_k say that either of us were scummy in this post for that. Just it was interesting and that she didnt like snow_bunnys third party comment. Later on she did say that she didnt like the refusal to vote either but specifically states that she doesnt find that scummy.

Also your reasoning for voting Snow Bunny was:

cheering the ray wagon from the sidelines + srs wishy-washyness on mufasa = scummy.

Yet look at my posts... no where within my refusal to vote do I say anything about cheering any wagon on. I make a post detailing my initial case on you which could be described as cheering on your lynch without voting but considering there is only 14 minutes between that post and the one where I actually vote you and there is only a post by elvis in between I think thats a null tell.

So actually since I never pushed a wagon, (please go check...) you were really only voting for me because I wasnt.

[elvis_knits]

Can we lynch ray yet?

[mykonian]

yes, sorry, I missed the last vote

Last vote count

Rayfrost(6): Porochaz, mikeburnfire, Snow_Bunny, elvis_knits, SpyreX, crypto
Mikeburnfire(2): Snow White, Rayfrost
Porochaz(2): Roflcopter, a girl on the internet

Not voting (1): populartajo.

with 11 players, it is 6 to lynch


And with that, Rayfrost, the well known member of this town was lynched. When going through his papers, the people find he is a

Mafia Godfather

night 2 starts now, ending Friday, this time

[mykonian]

I don't feel like typing up flavor.

Spyrex is dead. He was a

vanilla townie

D3 has begun.

[Porochaz]

Drinking.

Will probably be drunk next post.

vote AGOTI

I think it is obvious why. Im waiting for the response on my case.

[roflcopter]

should have stuck to my guns on page two

most likely scumpartners, in order:
agoti - this came early on, and this caught my attention yesterday
crypto - friend of scum, plus later arguing that "mufasa wasn't going to get lynched" as a reason to chainsaw defend ray v mbf
tajo - this post

definitely town:
elvis
mikeburnfire

vote: a girl on a the internet

[elvis_knits]

no, rofl, crypto is town.

AGOTI probably scum

Tajo might be scum

There also is probably scum on the rayfrost wagon. My top pick for bussingscum on rayfrost wagon is snowbunny.

[roflcopter]

no, rofl, crypto is town.

really? why?

all i see is crypto tiptoeing around ray on day one, calling him scummy a whole lot but not doing anything to get him lynched, then getting in line with the inevitability of it on day two and starting to lay false trails from ray to other people (i say false because at least one of them was to me)

[elvis_knits]

Crypto has gone after SB, who looks like the most likely to be a bussin on the ray wagon.

[roflcopter]

Crypto has gone after SB, who looks like the most likely to be a bussin on the ray wagon.

this reasoning is horrible

[Porochaz]

wabba wabba wabba woo! WOOOOOOOOO!

[elvis_knits]

Crypto has gone after SB, who looks like the most likely to be a bussin on the ray wagon.

this reasoning is horrible

It's probably right though, even though it might sound horrible.

[Snow_Bunny]

Time for AGOTI to be out of this world.

Vote: AGOTI

On what crazy and baseless reasons was I bussing Ray?

[populartajo]

Considering how the frost wagon developed yesterday, Im pretty sure there is at least one scum here.

Rayfrost(6): Porochaz, mikeburnfire, Snow_Bunny, elvis_knits,

SpyreX

, crypto

And prob at least another here:

Mikeburnfire(2): Snow White,

Rayfrost

Porochaz(2): Roflcopter, a girl on the internet


Of the frost defenders, rolf's flipflopping yesterday and also 635 is scummy as hell.

He is basically attacking people for something that he also did:

i've been burned in several games by rayfrost being a complete and total idiot who turns up town, but i'm ready to hammer

already losing hopes for godfather frost surviving the day.

vote: porochaz

this is the right lynch

wait, maybe not, there seems to be support for another wagon.

hey everyone, before ray gets hammered by tajo, what is your opinion of porochaz, and why do you think ray is more likely to be scum than him?

i was wrong, yeah, tajo, hammer ray but lets bring some suspicion to poro before.

ray's attempted gambit with no apparent purpose is actually exactly what i would expect a dolt like him to pull as town. he didn't know what it would accomplish but HAY COOL I CAN GAME THE SYSTEM LEZ TRY IT!

yeah, after i just said i was ready to hammer and after i approved tajo's hammer, i decide to call him town. unnecessary fabricated post.

If you want to check, these posts are in chronological order.

Vote: rolfcopter

[crypto]

Rofl is using some of the worst argumentation I've seen in a while (on this site [lol, EM]). I don't get what's so awesome about this guy. I was unaware that supporting what proved a scum lynch but pursuing another target was a scum tell. I was also unaware that examining possible scum teams was a scum tell. Oh, yeah, and I'm a damn idiot scumbag for not knowing that you have a town role PM. Gosh, how dare I? You are the man and I should get on my hands and knees and lick the dung off your feet in remorse, roflcopter.

Er, wait a second. Something's wrong here. Rofl, what have you done this game? Oh, yeah. That's right. Nothing.

Actually. Meh. I apologize for the misrepresentation. You do deserve due credit for opposing the Ray lynch from square one and whipping up an hysterically useless vote for Tajo.

I'd still love to see Bunny's face in a noose. But given Ray's flip, I really don't like Snow White's hop in the mini MBF wagon at the beginning of yesterday on the grounds that his urge for a Ray quick lynch was bad. I think she was buying Ray time so he could get in his WIFOM analysis.

Regarding Tajo's post: +1 to just about everything.

Scum-O-Meter

[0.1] mikeburnfire
[0.2] Porochaz
[0.2] elvis_knits
[0.3] populartajo
[0.5] a girl on the internet
[0.7] roflcopter
[0.8] Snow_Bunny
[0.8] Snow White

FOS: roflcopter, Snow_Bunny.
Vote: Snow White.

[crypto]

Oh, yeah, and here are some delicious deliciouses from Snow White. Some pretty epic coaching and fence sitting.

Unvote Ray Frost

I need to read over crap, more people have come to light, for some reason Pom and AGOI have stood out to me and im in need of enlightenment. Post due by wednesday, thursday at the latest if people can wait that long.

Until then im going to oblige Crypto in the AGOI hunt and

Vote a Girl On The Internet

Lastly, and i really hope i dont end up with egg on my face with this, if RayFrost is ScumRayFrost, VT is a really shitty fakeclaim.

@RayFrost: Dont take the high and mighty ground on someone giving you the (temporary) benefit of the doubt. You just lost town points again for that reversal accusatory post.

ps/Id much prefer if Ray was left alive, for the minute (fight goddammit*providing yor town*!! You havent been tunnelledvisioned that hard have you?!?) why so resolute in you being the lynch dish of the day?

And of course, the MBF vote:

Hm. If i have not yet been replaced i will be reading up on things shortly. If i have. Oh well and good luck. I am humbly sorry about my unexplained absence things were hectic with family and access was severely restricted. Anyway, enough excuses.

Vote MikeBurnFire

Talk is good.

*if ive been replaced that vote obviously doesnt count and someone pm me so im not reading over pages for nothing.

Which is followed by a lack of talking on Snow White's part, though admittedly her posting style does seem to gravitate toward infrequent text walls, which is fine . . .

Snow White, I'm expecting some heavy content today.

[crypto]

Oh, I forgot something. Going back to this:

Unvote Ray Frost

I need to read over crap, more people have come to light, for some reason Pom and AGOI have stood out to me and im in need of enlightenment. Post due by wednesday, thursday at the latest if people can wait that long.

Until then im going to oblige Crypto in the AGOI hunt and

Vote a Girl On The Internet

Lollery. All of a sudden Ray needs less lynching and Pom and AGOTI need moar lynching. And she zombies after my vote. Go-Go Gadget Distract from the Ray Lynch!

/triple

[roflcopter]

i just love it when someone's defense is "ur not good at mafier s i don't care wut u say," which was crypto's whole response to me (plus snark)

[roflcopter]

tajo unsurprisingly is not taking the full picture into account. if you want to try to lynch me for waffling on ray have fun, but look at pages two and three and tell me if you think thats a scum interaction between the two of us.

[crypto]

ur not good at mafier

Um, no, that pretty much

has

to be built into my argument when your attacks are this ludicrous. Though to be precise I wouldn't say you aren't good at Mafia so much as in my experience your arguments are frequently ridiculous. It's hard to reconcile the two.

s i don't care wut u say

That's a full-blown mischaracterization. If I were that opposed to wasting time with you, then I would've scrapped the sarcasm and said so.

Your hollow retort as opposed to an actual rebuttal isn't helping, by the way, but I suspect you don't give a damn, so . . . meh.