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Vi · Post Post #250 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:24 am

Official Vote Count

Players needed to lynch: 12

BloodCovenent

- 3 - chamber, Cruciare, FishytheFish - (L-9)

chamber

- 1 - Benmage - (L-11)

Cobalt

- 1 - elvis_knits - (L-11)

devotress

- 1 - SerialClergyman - (L-11)

Dramonic

- 2 - devotress, Seacore - (L-10)

drippinggoofball

- 1 - budja - (L-11)

elvis_knits

- 6 - Xylthixlm, Pomegranate, Faraday, BloodCovenent, Dramonic, Vi - (L-6)

Seacore

- 4 - TonyMontana, Farside22, StrangerCoug, Cobalt - (L-8)

TonyMontana

- 1 - drippinggoofball - (L-11)

Players not voting: Plum, Vaya

elvis_knits 248 wrote:Oh, crazy monkey wagon just happened last page. That was easy to find.

Reasons seem to include "I don't think she's town" and "I want to be on a wagon."

Most of the people on my wagon have been flippety flopping their vote around multiple times per page. Some of them appear to be scum hunting, although they are all over the place. Dram and BC are the worst of the crazy monkeys. However, cobalt is scum.

unvote; vote cobalt

Confirm Vote: elvis_knits

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I suspect dramonic isn't scum.
I'm pretty sure Seacore isn't scum.
Cobalt might be scum, but not for the reasons being given out.
The people piling votes on them ARE more likely scum.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #251 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:28 am

Vi wrote:I suspect dramonic isn't scum.
I'm pretty sure Seacore isn't scum.

You must have some amazing meta on dramonic there.

Vi wrote:Cobalt might be scum, but not for the reasons being given out.

Who gave reasons?

Cobalt · Post Post #252 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:32 am

Seacore wrote:Yes, we all know I"m horrible and scummy.

However, my earlier scumminess didn't stop you from changing your vote to Elvis before.

Now you've changed back. And I'd like to know whether it's because you're scared of the heat that people, like you, are getting for jumping on elvis for little reason, like you did.

Or do you not like how I went after somebody who jumped on Elvis's bandwagon after saying they didn't know why people were doing it, thus revealling myself to be scumier than before? Since that was my only action in between you changing your vote to Elvis and changing your vote back to me, I'd like to know.

your switch to dramonic was scummy enough to put you ahead of elvis, who seems to have a meta-based wagon.

Vi · Post Post #253 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:43 am

Xylthixlm 251 wrote:
Vi wrote:I suspect dramonic isn't scum.
I'm pretty sure Seacore isn't scum.
You must have some amazing meta on dramonic there.

It's not that amazing, and I'm not positive on it, but it's enough to mention for the moment.
I'm certainly not denying that his contribution isn't great.

Xylthixlm 251 wrote:
Vi wrote:Cobalt might be scum, but not for the reasons being given out.
Who gave reasons?

elvis_knits, lol
Plus whatever poorly-defined reason BloodCovenant had a while ago.

Benmage · Post Post #254 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:26 am

workin on zecatchup

Chelseafan wrote: Early vanilla claim is also really bad from dramonic.

I dont see this...its pretty obvious to me the lower section doesn't have pr's...alignment is another thing.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #255 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:28 am

Faraday wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:I'd torn between keeping my vote on TonyMontana or switching to Dramonic. I'm going to sleep on this one.
I thought dramonic was town?

Some things aren't meant to last forever.

But like elvis said,

vote: Cobalt

Xylthixlm · Post Post #256 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:34 am

Faraday is town
StrangerCoug is scum

Benmage · Post Post #257 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:36 am

Xylthixlm wrote:Faraday is town
StrangerCoug is scum

Hmm i'm not caught up, but i thought SC was town.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #258 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:37 am

Seacore is town now
FishytheFish is neutral leaning townish

Xylthixlm · Post Post #259 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:38 am

Benmage wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:Faraday is town
StrangerCoug is scum
Hmm i'm not caught up, but i thought SC was town.

Nope

Benmage · Post Post #260 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:40 am

Xylthixlm wrote:
Benmage wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:Faraday is town
StrangerCoug is scum
Hmm i'm not caught up, but i thought SC was town.
Nope

what makes you say so?

elvis_knits · Post Post #261 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:39 am

Xylthixlm wrote:
elvis_knits wrote:cobalt is scum.
Explain.

Repeated attempts to convince us random vigging helps town.

While the numbers may suggest that vigging is more likely to hit scum than a scum kill (since they aren't aiming at themselves)...

Vigging still should not be done "randomly"

That is just setting up the vig so he can shoot at ANYONE and not have to have a good reason. ie... scum vig can shoot at people who look town and just say "lol random kills r good fur town lol."

X

Seacore · Post Post #262 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:40 am

The SC that has been referred to a lot is SerialClergyman

as there's Seacore, SerialClergyman and StrangerCoug

So we're shortening it to Sea, SC, and Coug

that might be the confusion

The list is also in the order of townishness in my opinion (because I know I'm town) but the general consensus seems to be that SC is the most town of the three.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #263 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:46 am

Benmage wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:
Benmage wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:Faraday is town
StrangerCoug is scum
Hmm i'm not caught up, but i thought SC was town.
Nope
what makes you say so?

iso reading.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #264 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:48 am

elvis_knits wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:
elvis_knits wrote:cobalt is scum.
Explain.
Repeated attempts to convince us random vigging helps town.

It does, but that's not what he was suggesting.

elvis_knits wrote:While the numbers may suggest that vigging is more likely to hit scum than a scum kill (since they aren't aiming at themselves)...

Vigging still should not be done "randomly"

That is just setting up the vig so he can shoot at ANYONE and not have to have a good reason. ie... scum vig can shoot at people who look town and just say "lol random kills r good fur town lol."

X

Faraday · Post Post #265 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:53 am

elvis_knits wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:
elvis_knits wrote:cobalt is scum.
Explain.
Repeated attempts to convince us random vigging helps town.

While the numbers may suggest that vigging is more likely to hit scum than a scum kill (since they aren't aiming at themselves)...

Vigging still should not be done "randomly"

That is just setting up the vig so he can shoot at ANYONE and not have to have a good reason. ie... scum vig can shoot at people who look town and just say "lol random kills r good fur town lol."

X

lol.

He's arguing random kills help town. He doesn't suggest the vig SHOULD kill randomly anywhere. Obviously the inference is that if a random vig will help then a non random kill can help even further.

Faraday · Post Post #266 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:54 am

Benmage wrote:workin on zecatchup
Chelseafan wrote: Early vanilla claim is also really bad from dramonic.
I dont see this...its pretty obvious to me the lower section doesn't have pr's...alignment is another thing.

Except it's *not* pretty obvious. or even if it is does confirming it help the town at all?

I already said why I think scum are more likely to try and get it out of the way early too. He can wait, at least.

Cobalt · Post Post #267 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:55 am

faraday is correct

Faraday · Post Post #268 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:56 am

Obviously

Xylthixlm · Post Post #269 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:09 am

More elvis votes please

Cobalt · Post Post #270 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:10 am

but what about seacore

Faraday · Post Post #271 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:14 am

Cobalt wrote:but what about seacore

town.

Cobalt · Post Post #272 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:16 am

why don't we ever do what

I

want to do

unvote vote elvis

chamber · Post Post #273 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:18 am

eh, BC is still scum but elvis is good enough for now.

unvote Vote elvis

elvis_knits · Post Post #274 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:46 am

Faraday wrote: He's arguing random kills help town. He doesn't suggest the vig SHOULD kill randomly anywhere. Obviously the inference is that if a random vig will help then a non random kill can help even further.

He only ever talks about random kills being good for the town. He does not say "if random kills are good, non random is better."

He is planting the seed that ANY vig kill is acceptable. If any vig kill is good, then we don't challenge the vig if he makes a stupid kill, since random vigging is good for town.

This is EXACTLY how you position the town to accept BS vig kills.