Perfectionist Mafia - Resultas

dramonic · Post Post #1175 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:42 am

considering the two antitown are of different faction, we're not in that big of a pickle long as one of them shoots down the other <<

that is, if we mislynch.

Sanjay · Post Post #1176 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 6:47 am

Well, we don't have to mislynch.

Vote: dramonic

EtherealCookie · Post Post #1177 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:41 am

Why the vote on dramonic?

Vote:Sanjay

Sanjay · Post Post #1178 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:48 am

The timing of his manho vote, mainly.

MrSuave · Post Post #1179 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:21 am

I'm going to

vote:dramonic

because this seems very pokemon madnessy... I don't like it one bit. I refuse to die in this kind of shinanigans to dramonic again! this is indeed madness.... BUT THIS IS STILL SPARTA!!!!

dramonic · Post Post #1180 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 10:50 am

This looks nothing like pokemon madness. In that one I was trying (or convincing) everyone to vote the way I wanted them to. I'm not doing that here.

Oh, and this IS a mislynch, I wouldnt put that many votes , that quickly.

Sanjay · Post Post #1181 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:16 am

Vote: MrSuave

AKA Unvote

MrSuave, could you link to the game in question and tell me what similarities you see?

dramonic · Post Post #1182 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:18 am

viewtopic.php?t=12130
that game

Sanjay · Post Post #1183 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:24 am

MrSuave, have you played any games or are you familiar with any games with dram as town? If so, what do you think the differences are?

dramonic · Post Post #1184 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:27 am

havent I played with you as town and scum sanjay ?

Sanjay · Post Post #1185 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:34 am

The only games we've played together that I recall are this one and Lovers.

So yes, but you very well can't take my word on that.

Sanjay · Post Post #1186 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 11:38 am

dram, you want to talk to me about why you voted manho when you did?

dramonic · Post Post #1187 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 12:05 pm

because he tried to create a case out of thin air to vote me in a completely random moment and that is very scummy.

MrSuave · Post Post #1188 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:44 pm

I have played with him when he was town. I've played with him a lot actually xD. But in the game he was town, he seemed... more assertive, and more active in scum hunting... I skimmed over his posts iso, and they're pretty... meh. that's all... I'm just going to go with mah gut on this. I had a bad feeling in pokemon, and I have a bad feeling now.

EtherealCookie · Post Post #1189 (ISO) » Wed Dec 16, 2009 5:49 pm

MrSuave wrote:I'm going to
vote:dramonic
because this seems very pokemon madnessy... I don't like it one bit. I refuse to die in this kind of shinanigans to dramonic again! this is indeed madness.... BUT THIS IS STILL SPARTA!!!!

Don't we need 5 to lynch? Why would you put someone at L-2, when we have two evils, that are different factions? You're just giving them a chance to jump on it.

Max · Post Post #1190 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:49 am

Don't we need 5 to lynch? Why would you put someone at L-2, when we have two evils, that are different factions? You're just giving them a chance to jump on it.

No 3 votes.

VC:

Sanjay (1): EtherealCookie
MrSuave (1) Sanjay
dramonic (1) MrSuave
EtherealCookie
manho

NVY: manho, dramonic

EtherealCookie · Post Post #1191 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:42 am

...
I must've been half asleep when I wrote that.
L-2, Lol.
I meant L-1, and I meant 3 to lynch.

MrSuave · Post Post #1192 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:24 am

why? because I had a feeling. this is really just a shot in the dark, but I still think dram is scum. But sanjay, I feel could be scum too. those are my choices. gut mostly.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #1193 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:38 am

Is there any reason why you're so confident with mere gut reads?

dramonic · Post Post #1194 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:53 am

arent you dead?

Sanjay · Post Post #1195 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 12:27 pm

Wait a second, dram, when did you think we had played together with me as town?

Sanjay · Post Post #1196 (ISO) » Thu Dec 17, 2009 1:35 pm

Oh, I just thought of something:

After Sposh was lynched, I wasn't quite sure whether he had actually investigated Mufasa and just said he investigated MrSuave to try and save himself or whether he had actually investigated MrSuave. I couldn't figure out how Mufasa could be NOT the vigilante what with the second night kill, but it still seemed really weird that Sposh would make that mistake. But with zwet flipping Vigilante, it seems that, though hard to believe, Sposh actually just mixed up MrSuave and Mufasa.

This is good for us, because now we know that MrSuave is not the SK.

Also, somewhat less sure, I don't think manho is the SK. manho claimed here to have been absent from the thread for day 2 and 3, and we still had twilight kills both those days. He could have been lying about that, but I'm inclined to believe he was not, especially since he was totally gone from the site during that period.

I think this also makes it less likely that manho is mafia. Snow White was roleblocked, and while that roleblock

could

have come from the serial killer, with FaerieLord flipping roleblocker, it seems pretty plausible that FaerieLord roleblocked her. Check the front page. The mafia can't kill and use their role, so if FaerieLord roleblocked Snow White night 2, someone else would have had to submit the kill. If manho wasn't here, it couldn't have been him.

That isn't 100% obviously, since the roleblock on Snow White

could

have come from the SK, but it seems weird for there to be two roleblockers in the game. Mmaybe I'm wrong about that. We had two cops, after all. Still, I don't think manho is scum.

From my perspective, the SK is definitely in the very small set

{EtherealCookie, dramonic}

. If you aren't me or any of those peeps, it is in the set

{EtherealCookie, dramonic, Sanjay}

. Nice.

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Here's where I am on everyone:

manho

: I don't think he's the SK. I don't think he's mafia. It seems like he'd have to be faking VLA in like three games to be scum. Also a lot of reason I was voting for him yesterday had to do with him me thinking he was protecting scumbuddy dramonic and I know that that was wrong.

MrSuave

: Almost definitely not the SK. Wasn't on the BC lynch or the FL lynch. My gut read is townish though, but could still theoretically be mafia.

dramonic

: I don't agree with MrSuave about voting for dram for meta reasons, but he seems likely scum. I don't like his manho vote. It just seems off. While manho's reasons for voting dram aren't bulletproof, I don't understand what was scummy about them. manho's vote didn't come out of nowhere. He claimed a scum read on dramonic for a while. I really don't understand why this merited a manho vote.

Also, if the manho vote was because of manho's case on dramonic, I really don't see why it didn't happen until after the FaerieLord wagon started. It really seems like he was trying to get another wagon going to take steam out of the FL wagon.

EtherealCookie

: I'm not really sure about Cookie. He hasn't posted much so he's been pretty hard to read. If dramonic is Mafia, I think Cookie is the SK. Otherwise, I don't know.

manho · Post Post #1197 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:56 am

finally the final exams finish and i still think dram is scum.

will reread the thread tomorrow.

Sanjay · Post Post #1198 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:27 am

Vote: dramonic

MrSuave · Post Post #1199 (ISO) » Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:28 am

good thing there's no celebi, or you'd be screwed, eh dram? =p I know it seems weak, but he feels the same as that time in that game. we were in the same situation, and dram killeded us all D: