First, vote is too early to bus? Huh?BloodCovenent wrote:Blah.... A little late to be bussing?Cobalt wrote:Actually...unvote vote Vi
Expand your vote please?
Why are you against the mass claim?Vi wrote:Seacore 54 wrote:Well there's communication between mod and players... I don't get what your problem is with this?----SpyreX wrote:Note: Once the order is done you will know your alignment.However, not until after the draft is finished will you know any partners you may possess.
I do not support the immediate massclaim, although Budja's vote concerns me considering Seacore just extended what SClergyman was saying.
It aint Cobalt, but thanks for showing us some obvious partners shall you fall.Seacore wrote:Vote: CobaltProbably the closest to a scum move. I assume somebody on my bandwagon is scum, I don't think it's Vi or SC. Damning me for discussing another person's claim idea (and extensions there on) is not helpful for town, SC's reaction was better "no, I thought of that for a moment too, and its bad because of this"
Not even gonna comment on the others acting similarly, or just gonna hop on the easy wagon?Devotress wrote:Unvote
Because we moved out of jokie phase really fast.
vote seacore
Okay, I believe he was role fishing now. What serial clergyman said. You're giving scum a list of who to kill for the first few days, remembering that there's up to 4 anti town faction kills every day.
I like this.Fishythefish wrote: Unusually, massclaim is much more powerful early in this game than late (as scum won’t know whether or not their fakeclaim has actually been taken – later there will be a supply of fake claims for “vanillas”). If scum don’t know who has what role in their team, immediate massclaim up the list (obviously including attempted draft for vanillas) is going to make life very sticky for obvious scum roles. I’m not sure whether it’s worth it though, particularly with driver/roleblocker/empowerer to screw with us.
Huh?Cruciare wrote: That said for now I feel like I'm going to have an itch every time I read this thread if don'tVote: Benmage
Lol, ?Vi wrote:The Seacore wagon isn't awesome though.
Uhoh, poli........cyDrippingGoofball wrote:Oh-oh. Cobalt is scum.Cobalt wrote:Nice try, Seacore, but that's totally unreasonable.
1) There is zero reason for a town player to choose the framer role.
2) There is zero reason for a scum player to claim framer.
I think one of your partners picked framer, and you wanted to set up town cred for them.
vote: Cobalt
I dont see this...its pretty obvious to me the lower section doesn't have pr's...alignment is another thing.Chelseafan wrote: Early vanilla claim is also really bad from dramonic.
what makes you say so?Xylthixlm wrote:NopeBenmage wrote:Hmm i'm not caught up, but i thought SC was town.Xylthixlm wrote:Faraday is town
StrangerCoug is scum
Okay,Cobalt wrote:toss a vote on e_k before you leave, there's a good chapBenmage wrote:Preemptive away. Gonna be gone friday 11 am EST to sunday....but sunday's also my fathers Bday so count the V/LA till Monday Dec. 21.
Geeze, can you be more opportunistic? I said I was V/LA.Cobalt wrote:super protown scumhunting cobalt has found scum in benmage's lurkiness and voting a claimed cop
unvote vote benmage
fun fact- his vote on elvis was his only vote aside from a policy vote for chamber in his first post
I wanted EK lynched. So since i was going away, i wanted to help the game see her lynched.Devotress wrote:Actually I'm curious about benmage now too. I just read through his posts because of cobalt bringing him up up there.
What changed between you saying
And then a few posts laterI'd vote devotress, but i like to hold off until i'm not behind in a game.
What was so much better about voting for EK despite being behind, compared to voting for me despite being behind? Ek had a larger wagon to join in on?Okay, unvote vote elvis_k.
Only on page 7 in mah read thru, hope theres a case on her.
unvote
Vote Benmagep
Precisely.Devotress wrote:So you're saying you wanted EK lynched after the first 7 pages you read, and the "I hope there's a case on her" was just you hoping that she continued to be what you found scummy?Benmage wrote: I wanted EK lynched. So since i was going away, i wanted to help the game see her lynched.
Are you crazy, i havent read the thread. I'm behind site-wide. I said i got a lot of catching up to do...plus i'm still busy...its fathers bday today, thats why i said v/la till tomorrow. Even so it'll take time to read everything.chamber wrote: Now that you are back, and have presumably read the thread ,who do you currently find scummy?
Word. I forgot about this:Faraday wrote:Meh I still think she's probably scum but I can understand the desire to give her a night.Benmage wrote:I still do.
We give her tonight. NO Doc, protect her, for if she lives tomorrow and doesn't give us a scum to lynch first we lynch her....If you later claim doc and claim to have protected her N1 You will be lynched.TonyMontana wrote:Boils down to this: We have 3 scum factions. If they don't kill her, we might have an investigation to go with her claim.
Cobalt wrote:you require that elvis target scum (a 35% chance if town, 18% if scum) or be lynched, then also require that the doc NOT protect her? The odds of doc being scum with her are quite low. But the odds of either of them being town are 68%. You are setting up lynches on POWER ROLES based on nightactions and not posting. Awful, just awful.
Hes town.Xylthixlm wrote:Why aren't you voting StrangerCoug?Benmage wrote:Wooot. I'm caught up. I did it pretty quickly...i might have to relook up certain issues if i dont know what people are talking about.
Anywhose, any questions for me?
Gut read. I've seen his scum play. His play reads town to me.Xylthixlm wrote:Why?Benmage wrote:Hes town.
Not necessarily. Because if she finds a scum, we might as well lynch that person. So the scum risk being outed.StrangerCoug wrote:You're also telling the scum not to kill elvis_knits because they will have a free lynch tomorrow that way. Do you know how damaging to the town that is?Benmage wrote:Cobalt wrote:you require that elvis target scum (a 35% chance if town, 18% if scum) or be lynched, then also require that the doc NOT protect her? The odds of doc being scum with her are quite low. But the odds of either of them being town are 68%. You are setting up lynches on POWER ROLES based on nightactions and not posting. Awful, just awful.
I'm telling the doc not to be a retard. I want to lynch Elvis right now because I think shes scum...but i'm willing to let scum NK. If they dont we lynch her tomorrow.
Unvote
Vote: Benmage
Go go go bandwagon!
Yes, i agree i am being unreasonable to her. But i'd much rather just lynch her today for being scum.StrangerCoug wrote:She has to guess scum right. Even if she's town, the odds are not in her favor if she were to pick at random (otherwise, we would already have lost), which I hope she doesn't, and even then she can't find the SK. If everything else in this post goes over your head, at least know that you are being unreasonable towards her—you want her to play perfectly, at least tonight.
If shes town, she'll be nk'd. Nuff said.StrangerCoug wrote:You took this out of context. Benmage is not allowing for the possibility that she is town. (Neither are you, but you're not the one I'm attacking at the moment.) elvis_knits should be given a chance; if she is scum, it will obviate itself later.Xylthixlm wrote:He's telling scumStrangerCoug wrote:Does the wording matter? Nobody's countering her.not to kill the copand you think this is abad idea.
The other scum group will kill her, or we lynch her tomorrow.Vi wrote:And if she's scum...Benmage wrote:If shes town, she'll be nk'd. Nuff said.StrangerCoug wrote:You took this out of context. Benmage is not allowing for the possibility that she is town. (Neither are you, but you're not the one I'm attacking at the moment.) elvis_knits should be given a chance; if she is scum, it will obviate itself later.Xylthixlm wrote:He's telling scumStrangerCoug wrote:Does the wording matter? Nobody's countering her.not to kill the copand you think this is abad idea.
(Also, this line of conversation isreallyquite terrible)
Sure, but they run the risk of being outted.StrangerCoug wrote:Scum can simply refuse to NK her and there's your false positive.That's the problem.They can afford to lose one if it turns out not to work.
I unvoted before going away, because it was L-1. But thanks.Vi wrote:Benmage - Vote someone - Other than e_knits - Nao - Thx
I only just caught up chlax.Vi wrote:Stop fixating on e_knits - Scumhunt elsewhere - Place a vote down on someone not named e_knits - Pls - TYVM - ffsBenmage 630 wrote:I unvoted before going away, because it was L-1. But thanks.Vi wrote:Benmage - Vote someone - Other than e_knits - Nao - Thx
No, we dont care about her results...thats just a little icing on the cake that might stall her death for a day. We want her dead first and foremost.Faraday wrote:She'll almost certainly be nk'd now that she's claimed scum, whether she's scum or not. If the point is we're keeping her around for her cop results shouldn't she be protected?Benmage wrote:Cobalt wrote:you require that elvis target scum (a 35% chance if town, 18% if scum) or be lynched, then also require that the doc NOT protect her? The odds of doc being scum with her are quite low. But the odds of either of them being town are 68%. You are setting up lynches on POWER ROLES based on nightactions and not posting. Awful, just awful.
I'm telling the doc not to be a retard. I want to lynch Elvis right now because I think shes scum...but i'm willing to let scum NK. If they dont we lynch her tomorrow.
fishy's 786 aint bad...Xylthixlm wrote:elvis is scum,Fishythefish wrote:If I was 100% certain elvis was scum, it would be a tough decision.orshe has completely changed her town playstyle to be nothing like her normal town playstyle but exactly like her scum playstyle. One or the other.
This.Faraday wrote:Well he's clear of being in that mafia group, almsot certaintly.Fishythefish wrote:This may have been said, but Cobalt is almost clear of being mafia with that dead empowerer. To not empower your vig would be madness.
Wait, you agree EK is scum?farside22 wrote: @Ben: No I don't see it nor agree. All i see is an I agree EK is scum let's lynch. By the way I'm going on V/LA and will place her at l-1, wait never mind approach.
Lets see one way bus driver is possible. Or the mafia decided to leave her for WIFOM purposes. Honestly if the mafia doesn't kill her tonight I would be more suprised but considering the push for her lynch based on nothing more then meta reason's and getting a claim just doesn't seem all so town driven to me.[/quotefarside22 wrote:Benmage wrote:Wait, you agree EK is scum?farside22 wrote: @Ben: No I don't see it nor agree. All i see is an I agree EK is scum let's lynch. By the way I'm going on V/LA and will place her at l-1, wait never mind approach.
If she's town why wasn't she NK'd?
And risk being caught...1 NK(or day mislynch...in which a mislynch can still easily happen)...over risking being outtded...Geeze, if i were scum i'd NK'd the shit outta EK.farside22 wrote:Lets not forget the person who said if EK is alive tomorrow she should be lynched comment.
Looks like an incentative for scum not to killed a claimed cop.
Well read more cause my statements are pretty obvious.farside22 wrote:I have no clue what changed your mind from this post but yes my FOS stands on you for such statements.Benmage wrote:Yes, i agree i am being unreasonable to her. But i'd much rather just lynch her today for being scum.
As for mafia again it's all WIFOM unless you have insite into their minds please share with the class so we know who you're scum partners are and their plans.
Thanks
hrmmm i concur that a dgb fliip will be quite informative.Cobalt wrote:This option is suddenly quite tempting.Xylthixlm wrote:If you lynch her she does go away though.
dgb flip gives info on xyl, faraday, vaya, and prolly a few others.
do go on...Cobalt wrote:it occurs to me that a lynch of you would be pretty good too.Benmage wrote:hrmmm i concur that a dgb fliip will be quite informative.Cobalt wrote:This option is suddenly quite tempting.Xylthixlm wrote:If you lynch her she does go away though.
dgb flip gives info on xyl, faraday, vaya, and prolly a few others.
