890: Cults of Darkness and Shadow - Game over!

[dramonic]

Call it buddying, but I stated in an earlier post my reads. Look at who are the top two scum...

[Chaco]

I asked for a case, thank you. Not a one liner. That gives me nothing to respond to. If you are looking for towns best interest it is best that I mount a defense, I cannot do that from a one liner. And also, I want you to post yours before Semi.

Semi, if you would, do not post a case before Dramonic does.

[dramonic]

Well, I'll summarize it for you.

You buddied to Seacore, hard: You say it's "an elaborate technique to get a better grasp at his alignment and flip the table against him when he tries to pull and WIFOM and...". No. It's buddying. It's scummy.

You supported a double lynch: No, I am not OMGUSing you because you voted me yesterday and frankly I could care less. We already have a pair of scumkills per night (barring successful protect), we dont need extra kills. EVEN if a cop has two guilties. Cops can be scum here. What's more, you supported the double lynch on the first day, where there is NO information at all.

You want the lynch to occur before I come in: Why are you rushing the day? I got just as much time to get up to date even without a preemptive lynch. Is my opinion that alarming to you?

You backtrack a lot on Semi: Wishy-washy, a lot. One moment you suspect him, the next "he's right", then you IGMEOY, then "you'll go with him". Either you like his play or you dont. Get a conviction and stick to it.

Throwing your incant in then vanishing: You could have waited til you can actually post to vote, instead of going "Incant, will explain later". Incidentally, you never did. Wasn't it you who said earlier we should be extra careful before incanting?


We'll start with that

[tracker]

Incantation Count

Chaco - 2(semioldguy, dramonic)

Not Incanting - 8(SerialClergyman, DisCode, startransmission, Snow_Bunny Faraday, Deathsauce, Magua, Snow_Bunny)

The Ritual will only take 9 incantations to complete 6:00pm Sunday the 13th of December (site time)

Hello everyone, I will be replacing Percy as your moderator for a while. I'll do my best to get on and post the incantation count once a day and answer all your questions to the best of my ability.

also I will try and keep the format as close as I can to the orginal

With 10 alive it takes 10 to incant

[Snow_Bunny]

^So good I didn't even notice you weren't Percy the first time I read it. Good job ^_^

Did a reread during the night and I take back what I said about Magua being mipe's partner. Still think Snow_bunny is scummish.

I'm still waiting to hear such reasons of why you find me scummy. Your ISO shows no trial of that.

[semioldguy]

Chaco, there are several things that you said you'd do that you never did. Have a look back through your own posts and look at the things you said you'd discuss or answer but never did. Yes, this post is actively avoiding stating a case from me against you, I'd like you to adress this first before it gets further out of mind.

Here are a couple things for reference that I felt you never really got back to:

I'll reply tomorrow Semi, too long of post for my phone. But I think we missed each other. In terms of the posts.

Incant: Mipe

The way he's acting, he needs to be incanted.

Sorry, I'll give more explanation later. but I really gotta go right now.

[Chaco]

@Dramonic:

Point 1: Not much I can say here besides reiterating what I said. Also, you've buddied Semi does that make you scum? Seacore was town and his buddying was scummy?

Point 2: This is really null 80% of all players supported this.

Point 3: How is this even a point? You're give yourself too much credit. I thought it would be better for you to catch up over the night phase and post your thoughts after having time to read and not have the usual "Still reading" junk.

Point 3:No, I didn't backtrack on Semi. You're basically saying that--well example:

You think player A is scummy.
Player A says something you agree with.
You agree with it.

Does that make you scum for agreeing with someone you suspect? I really think you are grasping for material and don't see why half of these are points...

Point 4: I explained why I did that, as I was not sure when I would be back. Not to AtE, but if you want to penalize me for a death in my family have at it. I stated I'd be gone and wasn't sure how long in a response to Magua.

Semi, the last point regards you. I can't really say much about the first quote other than I didn't get to it. Sorry, I guess.

[dramonic]

@Dramonic:

Point 1: Not much I can say here besides reiterating what I said. Also, you've buddied Semi does that make you scum? Seacore was town and his buddying was scummy?

Point 2: This is really null 80% of all players supported this.

Point 3: How is this even a point? You're give yourself too much credit. I thought it would be better for you to catch up over the night phase and post your thoughts after having time to read and not have the usual "Still reading" junk.

Point 3:No, I didn't backtrack on Semi. You're basically saying that--well example:

You think player A is scummy.
Player A says something you agree with.
You agree with it.

Does that make you scum for agreeing with someone you suspect? I really think you are grasping for material and don't see why half of these are points...

Point 4: I explained why I did that, as I was not sure when I would be back. Not to AtE, but if you want to penalize me for a death in my family have at it. I stated I'd be gone and wasn't sure how long in a response to Magua.

Semi, the last point regards you. I can't really say much about the first quote other than I didn't get to it. Sorry, I guess.

numbering fail on your part

1: I'm not buddying to SOG, I'm voting like him. Under that basis you could say every bandwagon of more than 1 is buddying. Even if Seacore flipped town, it doesnt make the buddying any less scummy.

2: It's not null. Just because more than the 25% of a game does something doesnt make it any less scummy. It's antitown any way you look at it.

3: The only difference is that I wouldnt have had the time to post the "still reading" junk. How is that helping me?

4: No, but you stated boldly you didnt trust him and next thing we know you're saying he's totally right

5: While I'm sad to hear that, it doesnt revoke the point. You shouldn't just throw in a vote, knowing you wont be able to justify it.

[Chaco]

1: In actuality it loses the basis, but thats besides the point. There are hints of buddying to SOG, besides the voting.

2: So 80% of this game is anti town? Why only point it out on me then?

3: It helps everyone else, it wasn't for you.

4: I never admitted he was totally right, I said he did a good job of representing his side.

5: It's what I chose to do, so no matter what you think of it whats done is done. It was my choice as it was the better one.

[SerialClergyman]

In a way we're limited in information because mipe was so clearly scum. It's quite irritating.

DeathSauce - could you elaborate on Magua and mipe? What about your reread caused you to take back the accusation?

[Snow_Bunny]

Waiting for DS...

[tracker]

Incantation Count

Chaco - 2(semioldguy, dramonic)

Not Incanting - 8(SerialClergyman, DisCode, startransmission, Snow_Bunny Faraday, Deathsauce, Magua, Snow_Bunny)

The Ritual will only take 9 incantations to complete 6:00pm Sunday the 13th of December (site time)

After this, I will be on every day and check for questions and such, but I don't think I will post an incantation count unless it's changed or two or three days have ellipsed.

Thanks Snow Bunny

With 10 alive it takes 10 to incant

[startransmission]

Hey, been busy at work- but I promise to comment on stuff tomorrow.

[DeathSauce]

Snow_Bunny's scumminess is based on pushing a policy lynch while trying to refrain from calling it that, also, and the early player analysis (something I often see from scum).

A point in her favor is the catch of mipe's statement about "5 non-holy players". That was interesting and deserves further analysis.

Serial, my switch on Magua was due to re-reading all his posts instead of just the one where he unvoted mipe, got more of a town read after doing that.

[startransmission]

I think Chaco is town. I find the points that semi and dramonic are using against him are weak. Chaco has done well with pointing out why. And I also see a buddying between Semi and Dramonic.

Incant: Dramonic

[Snow_Bunny]

In a way we're limited in information because mipe was so clearly scum. It's quite irritating.

I agree with this. But, this can't stop us from finding the remaining scums.

I think Chaco is town. I find the points that semi and dramonic are using against him are weak. Chaco has done well with pointing out why. And I also see a buddying between Semi and Dramonic.

Incant: Dramonic

Why Dramonic and not SOG?

And what makes you think Chaco is town?

[SerialClergyman]

Wow, game got slow.

I echo SB in asking why you think Chaco is town.

And where's the buddying? Aside from the fact that they agree each other? Is it a sign of scum buddying to town or scum teaming up on town?

[Chaco]

Seacore also has a lot of buddy-ing and "I agree" attitude.

I couldnt agree more, SOG.

Double standard?

[dramonic]

*facepalm*

do you need a drawing?

[Chaco]

No, but you're denying a basis of the Seacore-Chaco buddying which applies to the SOG-Dramonic buddying.

[Magua]

I've been thinking. Darkness cult killed Seacore. Darkness cult is already down a member. One would expect this would meant that Darkness cult legitimately thought that Seacore was a cultist.

Looking back, I think the person who was strongest on the "Seacore is cult" wagon is Discode.

Unfortunately, Discode hasn't posted in over a week.

Mod, prod Discode please.

So, for a second place guess, I'm going to go with startransmission, who was early on the Seacore wagon and late on the mipe wagon.

Incant: startransmission

[Faraday]

/will post tomorrow. Had a busy day.

Sorry :/ studying is killing me.

[tracker]

Another point flares. The ends of the illuminated points form an equilateral triangle, harmonising with the pure beauty of the ordered universe.

Incantation Count

Chaco - 2(semioldguy, dramonic)

dramonic -1(startransmission)
startransmission -1(Magua)

Not Incanting - 8(SerialClergyman, DisCode, Snow_Bunny Faraday, Deathsauce, Snow_Bunny)

The Ritual will only take 8 incantations to complete 6:00pm Wednesday 19th of December (site time)

Prodded: Discord

9 to incantions are currently required to complete the ritual

[SerialClergyman]

Magua, do you care which scum team we lynch today?

[Magua]

Magua, do you care which scum team we lynch today?

Not particularly. Any scum lynch is a good lynch. I simply think it's easiest to follow back from why Seacore would die and find those who would see him as a threat.