Kingdom Hearts Mafia - Game Over!

[xRECKONERx]

HOW does his coming after mine make his BETTER? Am I just completely fucking missing something here, or are you just THAT hypocritical?

DGB, I've been asking you to point out specific scum connections since you put like half the players in this game on your original scumlist. I've been wanting more than just "I haz skum reed". When I posted that, THE WHOLE POINT WAS THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE ALL OF US AS SCUM, ESPECIALLY WITHOUT PROPER REASONING.

Then Zito does the same thing, and you're like OH LOL IS JOKE.

Bull. Shit.

And I'll vote whenever I'm damn well ready.

[saberwolf]

DGB's behavior is very standard for her as far as I can tell. A town player and scum player both asked her a question, but she interpreted the questions differently due to the inferred context. She'll amend her list when there's evidence it needs amending.

I think you understand that, but you posted it to make yourself look like "the good guy" in this situation.

This also is bullshit. So I'm gonna take a page out of your's and DGB's book then. I now think you guys are both scum, therefore the inferred context changes, therefore I shall no longer acknowledge anything you guys say and just vote you as scum should you try.

I don't really think any of the three of you are scum [yet], but you gotta see from some point how this is biased reasoning. You are being selective with your responses based on opinions, not facts. Every player should be treated equaly and consistantly until flip.

[Iecerint]

You have to make some assumptions. Otherwise, the game doesn't go anywhere. There aren't enough hard facts to play the game that way. That's what makes the game fun.

Also, I don't necessarily play the same way as DGB, but I do know that DGB plays a certain way, which was the main point of my post. Since you didn't clarify that you weren't familiar with DGB's playstyle, I'm slightly more comfortable that you pulled that to win +like points.

[DrippingGoofball]

xRECKONERx, I'm trying to decide whether your angry obstinacy over one of the 500 million scumtells I've called out, is from scum or town.

I'm leaning scum.

So it's a waste of time for me to explain this to you (given your putative alignment), but I'll do it for others' benefit just in case they are no seeing how ridiculous you are.

You complained that I had too many people on my scumlist, your words were: "All.... twelve of us are scum, DG? " Your literal interpretation of people that I found had done something that could be labeled as scummy, on Day 1, and prior to any alignment being revealed is disingenuous. I called you out on it. Of course I don't think that all these players are scum, but since when am I constrained to match the number of scum I anticipate in a game with the number of people that behave scummy? On Day 1??? Coming in as a replacement?

As for Zito doing the same, after I called you out, he'd have to be a pretty reckless scumbag to do something that he might reasonably expect would have me screaming scum at him, and (though I may be wrong with my interpretation) it was pretty clear that humor was intended.

Worse still, you have now, for the third time demanded that I come up with SCUM CONNECTIONS!!! Are you crazy... these are my Day 1 gut reads (again we didn't know anyone's alignment at the time) how the heck am I supposed to also find connections! And the kicker is that I'm probably the person that has speculated the most on connections, saying for instance that if zwet is town, Plum is scum, and that so-and-so cannot possibly scum with another player, etc. These are

ad hoc

observations, I'm doing the best I can, but I sure as heck aren't ready to call out scum teams, SK's, survivors and cults or whatever anti-town factions.

Note that there is now no way that xRECKONERx and saberwolf are on the same scumteam, if there are multiple scumteams.

[DrippingGoofball]

Every player should be treated equaly and consistantly until flip.

Funny you should mention that, I've had countless scumbuddies fretting about being 'consistent.'

I can't post this! I can't vote that! I can't do this! Imma gonna look INCONSTENT!!! Argh!

[Hayker]

Also why is DoS doing ever so well, Goofball. or DGB I guess is your real nickname. I think I am going to like you, you and I have the same fun to win ratio beliefs when it comes to mafia.

yes fun is what it's all about.

DoS always sets my scumdar on fire. I recently pushed for his lynch and he flipped town (so was I), so I'm a little singed.

Hi guys,

"Was town" Was being past tense, past tense being a scum slip.

Vote:DrippingGoofball

[SirPent]

Also why is DoS doing ever so well, Goofball. or DGB I guess is your real nickname. I think I am going to like you, you and I have the same fun to win ratio beliefs when it comes to mafia.

yes fun is what it's all about.

DoS always sets my scumdar on fire. I recently pushed for his lynch and he flipped town (so was I), so I'm a little singed.

Hi guys,

"Was town" Was being past tense, past tense being a scum slip.

Vote:DrippingGoofball

Except he was talking about a different game, so major kudos to you hayker.

vote hayker

[DrippingGoofball]

I *WAS* town in the game where he flipped town, that's a scum slip?

I can't bloody well say I *AM* town in the game here he flipped town, that game is over.

[Hayker]

HOW does his coming after mine make his BETTER? Am I just completely fucking missing something here, or are you just THAT hypocritical?

DGB, I've been asking you to point out specific scum connections since you put like half the players in this game on your original scumlist. I've been wanting more than just "I haz skum reed". When I posted that, THE WHOLE POINT WAS THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE ALL OF US AS SCUM, ESPECIALLY WITHOUT PROPER REASONING.

Then Zito does the same thing, and you're like OH LOL IS JOKE.

Bull. Shit.

And I'll vote whenever I'm damn well ready.

Do you believe that someone can find an action of a player scummy, but find that the player is pro-town overall?

[Hayker]

So has scumhunting finally began? Or are we still stuck on discussing flavor?

Hey guys let's scum hunt! come on come one yeah scumhunting! Woooooooo. I love scumhunting

vote:MafiaSSK

[Hayker]

K so, here is something that I noticed. When DGB was still Discode, everyone was demanding a full claim. After the switch, the subject was never ever brought up again.

Also, why did youi even feel the need to throw in "(So was I)"? It even had brackets showing it beign a side comment?

[Papa Zito]

I approve of Shotty's avatar.

There are lots of useless players this game, though. Namely, you could probably do the same with fuzzylightning, joe, and foil/SerPent, though the latter does include some by-looks-of-it-deliberately-awful "analysis."

How does the presence of other "useless players" excuse this one?

And you admit he's useless and then just dismiss the case with a wave of your hand.

Stay classy San Diego.

[Hayker]

Sirpent, how much expierience o you have in mafia. I don't care abotu specifics, jsut anything you know. Have you played before? Done any research on theory etc.

[Iecerint]

It doesn't excuse Hayker, but it doesn't explain why you would single-out Hayker over the other players, either. Using your barometer alone allows scum to choose whichever of the lurkers isn't scum with minimal blamelessness. My intent was to see if you could communicate why you thought Hayker was a better lynch than (for example) the other players I mentioned.

Hayker's posts this page aren't great, though. The first one almost has to be a joke or error, but he hasn't acknowledged as much. I'll reserve judgment on the others unless it becomes clear he's not going anywhere with his questions.

[Hayker]

DoS, you never seem to stick to your cases very hard. Generally when someone finds someone suspsicious, they keep going after them. You seem to hop form person to person, and never make more then an indirect reference to that person(specifically) again.

You have shown suspiscion for:Me,SirChris, Zwet and then Joe. You pursued Chris for awhile, but stopped, and went after the Zwet. After Zwet died, you targetted the next lurker, me.

[Papa Zito]

It doesn't excuse Hayker, but it doesn't explain why you would single-out Hayker over the other players, either. Using your barometer alone allows scum to choose whichever of the lurkers isn't scum with minimal blamelessness. My intent was to see if you could communicate why you thought Hayker was a better lynch than (for example) the other players I mentioned.

Hayker's posts this page aren't great, though. The first one almost has to be a joke or error, but he hasn't acknowledged as much. I'll reserve judgment on the others unless it becomes clear he's not going anywhere with his questions.

So in your world, I'm supposed to either attack all of them and completely diffuse my attention, or I'm supposed to ignore them completely.

Ok then.

I'll be back this evening.

[Hayker]

It doesn't excuse Hayker, but it doesn't explain why you would single-out Hayker over the other players, either. Using your barometer alone allows scum to choose whichever of the lurkers isn't scum with minimal blamelessness. My intent was to see if you could communicate why you thought Hayker was a better lynch than (for example) the other players I mentioned.

Hayker's posts this page aren't great, though. The first one almost has to be a joke or error, but he hasn't acknowledged as much. I'll reserve judgment on the others unless it becomes clear he's not going anywhere with his questions.

It's not an error, nor is it a joke. I consider it a scumslip, and I very much suspect DGB. This hasn't lessened from when I pursued Discode.

[DeathNote]

What's with the anger issues this game?

[Hayker]

We really shouldn't be listening to the voice too much right now, it could easily be a creature from the darkness. As mch as it could be from the light.

The change bothers me though, doesn't seem to be one involving light. Well I have school to get to, see you guys later.

I said ignore it for now, not simply ignore it. It's not much a difference, but it is one. I said it out of caution. That being said, I'm abotu to contradict what I said before

help:Thevoice

Just in case.

[Iecerint]

That is a blatant misrepresentation of my post. Ordinarily, when people find a player highly suspicious, they describe why they think so. If they can't, that is problematic. Hell, you could just say "I get a more negative feeling from Hayker than the others" if that's really all it is.

[DrippingGoofball]

Sirpent, how much expierience o you have in mafia. I don't care abotu specifics, jsut anything you know. Have you played before? Done any research on theory etc.

Why should we give a rat's tutu? Has he attributed some scummy behavior to his lack of experience?

[Shotty to the Body]

I feel a lot better about voting Hayker after that.

Reckoner you never answered my question, is DBG scum or not?

[xRECKONERx]

Yes, Hayker.

Oh, btw.

Vote: DrippingGoofball

. Blatant hypocrisy, saying it's wrong for me to ask her to come up with actual scumteams instead of blanketing half the roster as just "scum", general vibes, plus DisCode's play. Yup.

And I need to go reread her play pre-zwet-kill. I think I missed something.

[DrippingGoofball]

...it's wrong for me to ask her to come up with actual scumteams.

Yeah. To demand this repeatedly is very wrong. It's Day 1 and we don't even know how many anti-town factions we have.

I can't decide if you're doing this because you're scum or insane town.

[SirPent]

Really my experience or inexperience shouldn't determine how well I attribute, but I have played mafia elsewhere this is my first big game on the site, but I play with friends.