Kingdom Hearts Mafia - Game Over!

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1000 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:00 am

Shotty to the Body wrote:How did you feel about the discussion between Gorrad and Vaya about claims while we were waiting for Dis to come claim?

If I recall correctly, they found flavor reasons to "clear" a miller. Based on my recollection, no scum in their right mind would stick their necks out to protect a fakeclaiming miller buddy, because the millers always die early, and they'd be uncovered. They wouldn't protect a town miller either, as they'd rather cultivate doubt and associated free lynch. See: Kise.

Conversely, no town in their right mind would stick their necks out to protect a claimed miller, unless they had a reason that they trust.

This puts them both firmly in the pro-town category.

Papa Zito · Post Post #1001 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:04 am

Kise wrote:I forgot to ask you Zito about that vote... why?

Read Hayker in iso and tell me what you think.

Shotty to the Body · Post Post #1002 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:06 am

DrippingGoofball wrote:
Shotty to the Body wrote:How did you feel about the discussion between Gorrad and Vaya about claims while we were waiting for Dis to come claim?
If I recall correctly, they found flavor reasons to "clear" a miller. Based on my recollection, no scum in their right mind would stick their necks out to protect a fakeclaiming miller buddy, because the millers always die early, and they'd be uncovered. They wouldn't protect a town miller either, as they'd rather cultivate doubt and associated free lynch. See: Kise.

Conversely, no town in their right mind would stick their necks out to protect a claimed miller, unless they had a reason that they trust.

This puts them both firmly in the pro-town category.

That's what I wanted to hear, congrats you passed. =P

In other news,

vote Hayker

, I like where Papa Z is going.

Shotty to the Body · Post Post #1003 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:10 am

Prod DTM

Status on Fuzzy mod?

Kise · Post Post #1004 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:14 am

DrippingGoofball wrote:They wouldn't protect a town miller either, as they'd rather cultivate doubt and associated free lynch. See: Kise.

Goof, I never did. Quote me if you can.

Iecerint · Post Post #1005 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:26 am

I used my ability the way that I did because I think giving the town a functional free lynch is as good a use of a DK as can be hoped for. I don't want to claim my flavor or abilities because that information is not information that town needs to know, but it may help scum manufacture fakeclaims and/or determine their N1 target.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1006 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:28 am

This is what I was referring to, keeping the easy lynch fire burning:

Kise wrote:DRIPPING GOOF BALLS, TALK ABOUT THE MILLER THING NAO

Not that I care, I accept that I won't be around too long, but your stoking the fire is scummy, especially after the good flavor arguments made by others.

Cobalt · Post Post #1007 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:58 am

hmmmmm

vote hayker

dgb, what's the plum case?

Slicey · Post Post #1008 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:12 am

DTMaster prodded, fuzzylightning has about 10 hours or so to respond or be replaced.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1009 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:30 am

Cobalt wrote:hmmmmm

vote hayker

dgb, what's the plum case?

Plum TWICE defended zwet - obv Plum is scum in need of town cred.

Cobalt · Post Post #1010 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:36 am

who do you think would be scum with plum?

saberwolf · Post Post #1011 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:39 am

Cobalt wrote:who do you think would be scum with plum?

MafiaSSK

Moar SSK votes plz

Kdub · Post Post #1012 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:10 am

Sorry for my lack of posts lately, I will catch up and post thoughts this weekend.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1013 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:24 am

Cobalt wrote:who do you think would be scum with plum?

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 47#1992847

maybe fuzzylightning... I dunno.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #1014 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:25 am

Hmmm saying a lot while saying absolutely nothing. That is very good.

vote hayker

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Iecerint · Post Post #1015 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:30 am

I think Hayker would've been all over the zwet wagon if he were scum. Reckoner's claim that zwet's meta differed made it a comparatively blameless mislynch IMO. On the other hand, Hayker totally ignored the zwet lynch 100%, which is very odd.

saberwolf · Post Post #1016 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:31 am

Why I believe Iec's claim

1. There is no motivation as scum to waste a daykill when the lynch was going to happen anyways.

2. As town, it makes a lot of sense to avoid a night in which another innocent life is lost.

3. Scum would not start off the game so open. they would most likely save their daykill for cases that had actual merit to them, or after a lot of posting from the person in question that resulted in them looking super scummy. Scum daykilling zwets hoping he's part of another scumteam is about just as good as picking a name at random and daykilling them. Scum will do what they can not to draw attention to themselves, and Iec did the opposite.

4.

You're forgetting one thing mate...I'm Captain Jack Sparrow...

[not me CCing, just seemed like a good line to pick to make up a fourth reason

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DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1017 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 7:33 am

Maybe hayker is grounded again.

raider8169 · Post Post #1018 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:07 am

Iecerint wrote:I used my ability the way that I did because I think giving the town a functional free lynch is as good a use of a DK as can be hoped for. I don't want to claim my flavor or abilities because that information is not information that town needs to know, but it may help scum manufacture fakeclaims and/or determine their N1 target.

While the idea of it is good I think it would have been better suited for maybe day 2. Night actions are good as it lets us know what we are up against however had you been nk'd then we would have lost it. I guess it really doesnt matter just personal preference.

raider8169 · Post Post #1019 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:08 am

DragonsofSummer wrote:Hmmm saying a lot while saying absolutely nothing. That is very good.
vote hayker
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Well I guess its better then saying little while saying absolutely nothing which is your case.

I dont think I will get the support to have you lynched anytime soon but your play annoys me and is not helping town.

SirPent · Post Post #1020 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:17 am

hmm there must have been a reason for my replacee for holding his vote on ssk.. hmmm.

Why did you use your dayvig on Zwet who was being lynched anyways?

Cobalt · Post Post #1021 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:32 am

SirPent wrote:hmm there must have been a reason for my replacee for holding his vote on ssk.. hmmm.

Why did you use your dayvig on Zwet who was being lynched anyways?

Are you Mufasa?

Iecerint · Post Post #1022 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:38 am

Iecerint wrote:I used my ability the way that I did because I think giving the town a functional free lynch is as good a use of a DK as can be hoped for.

I wanted to wait 12 hours to shoot to give everyone another post or so so that we'd have more to analyze. You can consider the zwet wagon as analogous to a D1 mislynch wagon for analysis purposes. This also puts off N1, but I think increasing the number of town lynches by 1 outweighs that.

Cobalt · Post Post #1023 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:40 am

Also, I don't see why anyone has an issue with the zwets vig.

DragonsofSummer · Post Post #1024 (ISO) » Fri Dec 11, 2009 8:43 am

I've said plenty raider. You are just ignoring it. I have put opinions out there on multiple players now, just like you asked. You can think my opinion on you is wrong all you want, but I still have a right to it. You can say you analyzed as part of your read through posts but I call bs on the analysis. That is all I have to say about it right now.