The Dark Goma Mafia: Massacre of the Cloth (Game Over)


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Post Post #3450 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:45 am

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Off rolenames alone, Elmo and stark appear most anti-town. If there is still a need to look into who's scum, Sajin, SB, chamber and Vaya also questionable when it comes to roles alone. Something tells me to believe Vaya is not a scum mason and it was simply a mindscrew placed in his and Plum's PMs to make them paranoid. Elmo is obvSK. Stark's cult cop role seems funny as well. Not only has no one flipped cult yet, but wouldn't that mean cult is about to comprise 50% of the player list if they're alive and have been recruiting since day 1?
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Post Post #3451 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 10:49 am

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Ah, crap. Forgot to tell you, Llama. I suspected milk because I thought the calming power was a lie, hence why I asked him/her on occasion how long they thought they could keep it up. In other words, thought milk was the SK trying to play off a psychiatrist-like role.
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Post Post #3452 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:13 am

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If there's a cult (which I'm REALLY starting to doubt all things considered) I think we're boned. The question is is stark a red herring or a scum lie.

I think its Elmo today, hands down.
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Post Post #3453 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:19 am

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If there IS a cult, I would put huge money on Kise and/or Elmo being a part of it. However I dont think there is a cult anymore.

Starks role reminds me of a "cult-unrecruiter" role that was a red herring ive seen before.
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Post Post #3454 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:20 am

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Honestly, if there IS a cult we might as well just GG this game.

Do we need a round of prods?
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Post Post #3455 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:33 am

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I do not think anyone was calmable. I do not think the weather does anything. I do not think cult detect does anything. I do not think my unknown power does anything.

These are all effective vanilla powers in the setup. Makes a lot of sense to me.

I am down with an elmo lynch.
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But I do support a kise lynch. When he is town he usually does not blow up in huge OMGUS arguements when attacked. Just as you said llama ignored you Kise, you ignored him until he attacked you yes?
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Post Post #3456 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:37 am

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I've been giving my attention to other games with more urgent matters lately, so sorry for my basic non-presence today.

At a glance, Llama doesn't have anything that I think needs to be dealt with urgently. Elmo is almost guaranteed to hit scum and, judging from his general absence now, he knows he's screwed.

I'll wait for a votecount and others to speak up if they'd like, but I'm still ready to lynch.
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Post Post #3457 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:37 am

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The only thing (and I'm a bit lazy) I want before this lynch goes through is to make sure we're all up to date on all the powers / targets.
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Post Post #3458 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:19 pm

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SpyreX wrote:The only thing (and I'm a bit lazy) I want before this lynch goes through is to make sure we're all up to date on all the powers / targets.
I think everything's in order.


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I'm also thinking along the same lines as Sajin.

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Post Post #3459 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:25 pm

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Vote: Elmo


The only people who haven't claimed targets are our docs(IMO, they don't need to let us and scum know who they are protecting, if no deaths are prevented), and Sajin(who probably doesn't do anything). I think we can get to lynching Elmo now.
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Post Post #3460 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:26 pm

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Vaya wrote:
Vote: Elmo


The only people who haven't claimed targets are our docs(IMO, they don't need to let us and scum know who they are protecting, if no deaths are prevented), and Sajin(who probably doesn't do anything). I think we can get to lynching Elmo now.
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Post Post #3461 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:28 pm

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Post Post #3462 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:57 pm

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K, lets do this.

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Post Post #3463 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:59 pm

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Side note: I want a potion. I feel miffed at thinking I had an awesome action early game and I want one that does something.

But hey spyrex, feel free to try and pick a potion of death. I know you want to.
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Post Post #3464 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:01 pm

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No lets not do this untill SP 100% confirms his target instead of just leaving it as a "most likely" thing
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Post Post #3465 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:04 pm

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I already said stark.
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Post Post #3466 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 1:04 pm

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Vote Count (Page 139, Day 6)


Elmo
-6 (Kise, Snow_Bunny, stark, Sajin, Vaya, SpyreX)
Kise -1 (LlamaFluff)

Not Voting:
Elmo, SocioPath, chamber, VP Baltar

Note: With 12 whole votes available, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline at the earliest is 12/17 at 8:15 am EST.


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Post Post #3467 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:14 pm

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Bring it home, Llama.
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Post Post #3468 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:32 pm

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This lynch feels disproportionately easy to me...
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Post Post #3469 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 3:57 pm

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chamber wrote:This lynch feels disproportionately easy to me...
Well, what do you suggest then?
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Post Post #3470 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 4:24 pm

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I don't have any strong scum reads atm. I've been neglecting giving this game a reread. What I can say however is that this wagon is far too easy given the person its on, and the others in the game. I'm worried the people voting him are voting in a group for a reason. IE a cult. But a cult also seems so ridiculous at this point.
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Post Post #3471 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 5:04 pm

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chamber wrote:I don't have any strong scum reads atm. I've been neglecting giving this game a reread. What I can say however is that this wagon is far too easy given the person its on, and the others in the game. I'm worried the people voting him are voting in a group for a reason. IE a cult. But a cult also seems so ridiculous at this point.
If you are worried about cult for said reasons, Kise is the better lynch as there is a collective "tomorrow" feeling regarding him.

Im going to play the stubborn card and see how much of a dueling wagons aspect I can get going. Even though I doubt there are two in the same anti-town faction alive (save cult) its a move with no downside, and if there is cult it has upsides.
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Post Post #3472 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 6:12 pm

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Sajin wrote:I do not think anyone was calmable. I do not think the weather does anything. I do not think cult detect does anything. I do not think my unknown power does anything.

These are all effective vanilla powers in the setup. Makes a lot of sense to me.
We've got a miller, but do we have [regular] cops? Someone said PZ was cop but I never caught it when he confirmed this.
Sajin wrote:But I do support a kise lynch. When he is town he usually does not blow up in huge OMGUS arguements when attacked. Just as you said llama ignored you Kise, you ignored him until he attacked you yes?
I haven't had a problem with Llama until today. By default, a counterattack is labeled OMGUS, but Llama's attacks on me are questionable. I want an answer to my question because I'm genuinely interested in why my name was picked out the hat. As a convenient reminder, I threw my rolename out there. Questionable motives, as I said. I'm not looking at Llama as scum atm. Llama is a smart scum player, as I remember from Death Note mafia, but right now that's not what I'm thinking about.
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Post Post #3473 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 7:08 pm

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This is not a new case on Elmo. It's been building for quite some time.
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Post Post #3474 (ISO) » Sun Dec 06, 2009 9:25 pm

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Kise wrote:This is not a new case on Elmo. It's been building for quite some time.
I don't believe all 6 of the people on him have openly found him suspect recently, but I haven't reread this thread in a long time, mostly do to its massive length, so I could be wrong. A quick iso+search only shows 3 of them having made any recent(or even remotely old) points against elmo, I didn't check for points against rosso though. This still leaves 3 seemingly voting him out of the blue today.

I haven't found any of the stated reasons for suspecting him to be valid(lol we can't have 2 vote manipulators) And I personally haven't seen much come from him to convince me hes scum. Also this normally would make me happy but there is quite the absence of the case being presented against him. Although I endorse this I find it odd that people that normally condemn such things are on the wagon(In truth condemn might be too strong a word here, but the fact remains that I don't know of anyone that's active with my outlook on cases).


I think I've convinced myself of a stark lynch. The way I see it hes either Cult himself, or is the sk and made up a fake role.
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