Legacy of the Ancients Mafia (That's All, Folks!)

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:45 am

Sajin wrote:
zwetschenwasser wrote:There is absolutely no reason on earth for me to claim. I don't see the logic behind this insane succession of claims.
Waiting on you Zwet.

Hey I thought you liked living past day 0. I am trying to get you to live a little longer, but your making it difficult for me.

If you're planning on daykilling me, don't waste your shot. I refuse to claim.

UncertainKitten · Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:48 am

UK, what does Reflect do, and why did you use it on Kairyuu N0?

That's classified information. Maybe you should read vote counts and mod scenes if I'm correct about what happened.

FL/UK was targeted by a shadow redirecter as tracked by me. So if you do believe me, I would assume she is NOT shadow.

When did this happen? Was it yesterday? Because I think I can piece together what happened from there.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 3:50 am

FL is scum, by the way.

animorpherv1 · Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:10 am

I am also interested in what day that was. It could be fairly important.

UncertainKitten · Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 4:15 am

FL is scum, by the way.

I love unsubstantiated accusations! No, really, I REVEL in them.

Unfortunately, you're...going to be proven wrong by the end of today. Sorry about that ^-^

If you're planning on daykilling me, don't waste your shot. I refuse to claim.

/me sighs

Well, I guess that's that

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So, we have a lot of targets at this point. I'm going to converse with my fellow councilmembers and we shall decide what we do.

Sajin · Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:33 am

Starbuck wrote:Where I have I claimed no active abilities?

My active ability is double-voting. You said you tracked me. What are the chances that it showed that he visited me and not the other way around?

The point is that I should not have tracked you anywhere. But hey-

Tarhalindur wrote:
With a heavy heart for what Mufasa had done and joy in the understanding of the Ascended, you sit down to do the job you used to do together.

You set the Sentinel to watch Starbuck, then grab a quick bite and settle in for the long haul.

Hmm... the system shows Starbuck leaving the Atrium, then going... hmm. You're not entirely sure where he went... you see flashes of what looks like Starbuck on several of the screens... one that appears to be in the personnel quarters - no wait, that's a fluke... then...

Huh? What is this guy doing in such a remote part of the underbelly?

Wait, isn't that were Bogre was found?

Day 2 Results wrote:Your target targeted Bogre (dead). Bogre was alive at the time that your target targeted him.

So no, my results are you targeted him not the other way around. The only possible out you have is me getting redirected to someone else who targeted Bogre. But, I do not think this is very likely at all seeing the other redirector tracked to all council. If someone town had claimed a vig kill things may look different in my eyes. Without that, I will be condeming you.

@FL/UK- I do not need protection. You should protect the dayvig in my opinion. And kill one of Zwett/Animorpherv/Maemuki. Also, please send starbuck to do it in case anyone has suprises they are nopt mentioning. Starbuck, if she is indeed town should have no problems with that.

@Zwett- Am I scum? I am the one asking you to claim. Your refusal will lose us the game in my opinion. On what basis are you refusing? Also do you understand why my information strongly suggests FL/UK is not shadow?

UncertainKitten · Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:41 am

@FL/UK- I do not need protection. You should protect the dayvig in my opinion. And kill one of Zwett/Animorpherv/Maemuki. Also, please send starbuck to do it in case anyone has suprises they are nopt mentioning. Starbuck, if she is indeed town should have no problems with that.

As I said, we are deliberating on who to kill and stuff. As for protection, I won't reveal who's been protected, though I guess somewhere along the line it was obvious I'm a protective role.

Sajin · Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:45 am

UncertainKitten wrote:

@FL/UK- I do not need protection. You should protect the dayvig in my opinion. And kill one of Zwett/Animorpherv/Maemuki. Also, please send starbuck to do it in case anyone has suprises they are nopt mentioning. Starbuck, if she is indeed town should have no problems with that.

As I said, we are deliberating on who to kill and stuff. As for protection, I won't reveal who's been protected, though I guess somewhere along the line it was obvious I'm a protective role.

You have your council protection too. And 2 verdicts.

animorpherv1 · Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:19 am

I will hav either NO OR LITTLE ACCESS on December 15th

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UncertainKitten · Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:28 am

You have your council protection too. And 2 verdicts.

Oh, derp. Well, still, I mean, it's pretty obvious since my ability name was revealed.

Trumpet of Doom · Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:27 pm

Starbuck wrote:Where I have I claimed no active abilities?

My active ability is double-voting. You said you tracked me. What are the chances that it showed that he visited me and not the other way around?

Yeah, okay, Starbuck needs to be lynched at some point. And it does need to be a lynch, because she controls half the High Council's votes, so they really can't investigate her.

1. Double-voting really seems like it ought to be a passive ability, not an active ability.

2.

Starbuck wrote:You said you tracked me. What are the chances that it showed that he visited me and not the other way around?

By definition of "tracker"... approximately zero. And Sajin's claimed as much.

Vote: Starbuck.

In other news, I missed where it was obvious that UK's a protective role. Don't bother spelling it out to me now, though... maybe at the end of the game.

Starbuck · Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 12:29 pm

We have an investigate left and I have nothing against being investigated.

Sajin · Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:20 pm

Starbuck wrote:We have an investigate left and I have nothing against being investigated.

Why the hell would the council use an investigation up in this case?

I have been investigated innocent by the council. I have a tracker report that contradicts your claim. The only reason I have not voted you yet is because the council needs you to vote on council resolutions first.

Not to mention that Tar likes to make powerful Serial Killers. Investigation immune that can use double votes to control additional council kills and protections? That would be right up his alley.

I am now incredibly curious as to what starbuck has been advocating for council to do with their actions.

Starbuck, let me know in your next post if you are going to filibuster a protection on the dayvig as well as an investigation or kill on Zwett or you have voted to pass those.

Starbuck · Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 1:42 pm

Sajin wrote:I have been investigated innocent by the council.

This is incorrect. I don't know where this came from, but we HAVE NOT used an investigate on you.

Sajin wrote:Starbuck, let me know in your next post if you are going to filibuster a protection on the dayvig as well as an investigation or kill on Zwett or you have voted to pass those.

I haven't voted on any of those.

I have agreed pretty much with everything that the council has done except for what has been going on as of late. There's a chance we may lose dramonic by doing a certain action. FL and dramonic want me to vote for this action, and even though it is assured to me that dramonic will survive, I really do not want to take the chance.

Sajin · Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:02 pm

Starbuck wrote:
Sajin wrote:I have been investigated innocent by the council.
This is incorrect. I don't know where this came from, but we HAVE NOT used an investigate on you.

Sajin wrote:Starbuck, let me know in your next post if you are going to filibuster a protection on the dayvig as well as an investigation or kill on Zwett or you have voted to pass those.
I haven't voted on any of those.

I have agreed pretty much with everything that the council has done except for what has been going on as of late. There's a chance we may lose dramonic by doing a certain action. FL and dramonic want me to vote for this action, and even though it is assured to me that dramonic will survive, I really do not want to take the chance.

Dramonic said he investigated me as Ancient. I thought that was general council, but whatever. Point still stands that it would be a waste.

Although unlike dramonic and FL/UK, I read Maemuki's ability as different. Her ultimate would only apply to who she was protecting TODAY if anyone, not YESTERDAY. Therefore unless she had submitted a roleblock on dramonic for TODAY, he could die.

@Council- I thought we were sending starbuck on the missions of possible no return. Can we do that please? Or will they not resolve if she is lynched? (I think they would).

Starbuck · Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:06 pm

I don't like this control that you seem to be trying to exert. This really bothers me.

UncertainKitten · Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:07 pm

This is incorrect. I don't know where this came from, but we HAVE NOT used an investigate on you.

Dramonic investigated him. However, the council has not.

Not to mention that Tar likes to make powerful Serial Killers. Investigation immune that can use double votes to control additional council kills and protections? That would be right up his alley.

Interesting thought.

Also, Sajin, when was I redirected?

Starbuck · Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:07 pm

Also unless dramonic investigated you of his own accord, you were NEVER investigated by the Council.

UncertainKitten · Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:08 pm

Also unless dramonic investigated you of his own accord, you were NEVER investigated by the Council.

Me? Well, we already implemented that one didn't we ^-^.

If you mean Sajin, as I said, dramonic investigated him. Dramonic has said this several times in thread. Sajin at least appears to be ancient, if we trust dram.

Starbuck · Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:09 pm

One more thing, I'm not immune to investigations. It seems that Mae blocked anything that dramonic was supposed to do that night.

Starbuck · Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:09 pm

UncertainKitten wrote:
Also unless dramonic investigated you of his own accord, you were NEVER investigated by the Council.
Me? Well, we already implemented that one didn't we ^-^.

If you mean Sajin, as I said, dramonic investigated him. Dramonic has said this several times in thread. Sajin at least appears to be ancient, if we trust dram.

I meant Sajin. You and I posted at the exact same time.

Starbuck · Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:11 pm

Also, FL, you are saying that Sajin appears to be Ancient, but he's trying to say that he's confirmed and I'm not comfortable with that when he is not.

UncertainKitten · Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:21 pm

One more thing, I'm not immune to investigations. It seems that Mae blocked anything that dramonic was supposed to do that night.

Oh, we know that. I'm just saying it's an interesting theory.

Also, FL, you are saying that Sajin appears to be Ancient, but he's trying to say that he's confirmed and I'm not comfortable with that when he is not.

He mostly is. Assuming we trust dram. Which is a big assumption to be sure.

Well, should we investigate him soon?

animorpherv1 · Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:23 pm

Personally, anyone trying to confirm

themselves

as pro-town is scummy to me, imo, as it screams

I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING PRO-TOWN TO DO, SO I'M GONNA CLEAR MYSELF!

fos:Sajin

UncertainKitten · Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Sat Dec 05, 2009 2:25 pm

Personally, anyone trying to confirm themselves as pro-town is scummy to me, imo, as it screams I CAN'T THINK OF ANYTHING PRO-TOWN TO DO, SO I'M GONNA CLEAR MYSELF! fos:Sajin

Ok, so, you basically are saying it's wrong to reiterate an investigation result when apparently everyone in the damn game keeps forgetting it? I know it's not fool proof, but it seems more people are trying to pretend it isn't there completely rather than just outright say "dram says you're ancient. Cool. We'd like some cool protown stuff now"