Flash Mafia: You won!

[RayFrost]

srsly

[SpyreX]

This game.

Rofl, interject some life.

Who else have we been missing fairly chronically? Tajo? Someone else? One of the snow twins?

[elvis_knits]

I'm willing to switch wagon to Pom if needed, although I still approve of mbf.

Mbf, what do you think of pom and is she your scum buddy?

(Glee was awesome, btw).

[Green Crayons]

Replying as I go through,the posts, if you look at my previous posts that will give you the reasoning why Im voting AGOTI at that point in time. I was holding off my vote until I had read rofl and ray more closely.

Yeah, I only found Post 154. From there the only real sticking points you make are that 1. you don't like girl's Bunnyvote reasoning and 2. you don't like girl using absolutes in her post 133. You take some issue with page number specifics but seem to dismiss that immediately and there's some confusion about productivity but that doesn't really seem to have any undertones of suspicion.

Am I correct in this assessment or did I miss something?

That is all. Curious to see what rofl thinks.

[crypto]

One of the snow twins?

Bunny's activity is directly proportional to the degree of pressure on her.

[Snow_Bunny]

I never voted for Ray, as by the time I'd vote I would either put him at L-2 (I think) at page 5 or so, or L-1/hammer.

What does that have to do with whether or not you liked the wagon? Stop dodging the question.

After a quick read, Ray is top scummy. Mostly same reasons Crypto said (questions trying to look pro-town, vote on SW, bad vibe in general).

RF is scum. His playstyle has been scummy at best, and his last posts and his defence against GC's post just don't make it. I'd hammer, but I still think is too early to end the day.

My read on him hasn't changed.

Your simultaneous attachment to the AGOTI wagon and obsession with loss of pressure on RayFrost are scummy and contradictory. You didn't say that the Ray wagon was good but that AGOTI should be lynched instead. You just complained about the decline of the Ray wagon. There's a distinct difference between the two.

I fail to see a distinction. If I complain about not being chocolates in the store, it's because I want to buy chocolates.

If you actually read the thread, you would know why I like Ray's wagon and wouldn't need to ask.

I know, that's why it's such an easy question. I want you to tell me why Ray is scummy and why you like his wagon. I don't know if you've updated your opinions. Opinions usually get updated in Mafia.

After a quick read, Ray is top scummy. Mostly same reasons Crypto said (questions trying to look pro-town, vote on SW, bad vibe in general).

RF is scum. His playstyle has been scummy at best, and his last posts and his defence against GC's post just don't make it. I'd hammer, but I still think is too early to end the day.

Usually =/= always. My opinion on him remains. I find him scummy. And the claim doesn't help either. At least some others claims can be confirmed. VT can't.

The way the question is asked, it seems as if you believe his claim.

Not at all. I think I worded my question as plainly as possible. Stop piggybacking on Green Crayons (thanks for spoon-feeding her an escape route, GC!) and take it for what it is. There's no indication of whether or not I believe his claim. Some players' stances tend to change after a claim of any sort. Other players' stances don't. I wanted to know why you chose one over the other.

So, lucky me for GC answering before me. I thought you believed Ray's claim, whatever GC's say it first or not. My stance on Ray hasn't changed because he hasn't made anything to change it. Or do you think he has acted protown lately?

Sometimes I don't find anything good to add;

You were asked a question. Cross that excuse out.

other times I just don't have the time or motivation to reply;

It was a very simple question. I doubt you couldn't muster the motivation for a two- or three-line answer.

other times I'm just reading in my spare time.

You made a post in another game.

Whatever you like it or not, I will post WHEN I WANT. Not when you want. You don't know if I have enough time to post in all my games at once. You can't possibly know if I had some sort of Internet connection that prevented me from posting (this has happened me quite a lot of times, actually). You can't possibly know why I'm not posting, so stop bugging me over it! Go ahead and think I'm lurking if you want. That won't change the way I play. I rather not post in a game than make a weak post just for the sake of posting.

Why is AGOTI a better lynch than RayFrost?

Must I repeat everything?

I am not liking AGOTI at all. Not stating reasons at all, vote-jumping, and overall bad posts don't help her. I'd be happy to lynch her over Ray.

[mykonian]

Vote count

Mikeburnfire(4): Spyrex, Elvis_knits, A girl on the internet, Pomegranate
Snow_bunny(2): Roflcopter, Rayfrost
A girl on the internet(2): Porochaz, Snow_Bunny
Rayfrost(2): Green Crayons, mikeburnfire
Pomegranate(2): Populartajo, crypto
crypto(1): Elvis_knits

Not voting (2): Snow white.

with 13 players, it is 7 to lynch

[elvis_knits]

Hmm

rofl lurking is not a good sign.

[crypto]

You can expect me to be in a horrible mood for a few weeks now. Have a damn cracker, elvis.

[SpyreX]

?

[crypto]

That's correct, SpyreX. I am not posting any actual content at the moment.

Now that my only remaining game is full of lurkers I can devote more

rage

time to this one. Will probably do a reread tonight. Yay.

[SpyreX]

That was more a "why a bad mood" thing.

380 gives me that ol' familiar itch.

[elvis_knits]

So what do we think of the fact that as soon as we rallied a wagon on mbf he got really busy and will be unable to post until monday or something?

Need lynching:
mbf
Pom

Need vigging:
Ray
snowbunny

Need to stop lurking:
rofl
tajo
snow white

[crypto]

Whatever you like it or not, I will post WHEN I WANT. Not when you want. You don't know if I have enough time to post in all my games at once. You can't possibly know if I had some sort of Internet connection that prevented me from posting (this has happened me quite a lot of times, actually). You can't possibly know why I'm not posting, so stop bugging me over it! Go ahead and think I'm lurking if you want. That won't change the way I play. I rather not post in a game than make a weak post just for the sake of posting.

bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug

So, lucky me for GC answering before me. I thought you believed Ray's claim, whatever GC's say it first or not. My stance on Ray hasn't changed because he hasn't made anything to change it. Or do you think he has acted protown lately?

Psst, Snow_Bunny, would you like to admit your bullshit now or save it for after I kill you? Hint: If you do it now there will be no such kill.

[crypto]

Oh, and what makes Ray's posts "overall bad"?

[mikeburnfire]

So what do we think of the fact that as soon as we rallied a wagon on mbf he got really busy and will be unable to post until monday or something?

It's actually just bad timing. I have finals coming up that demand much more attention, desperate scrapping for work on third shift, and I'm spending all day Friday at my monthly Marine Corps Drill and all day Saturday helping my girl clean up a church after a wedding.

Besides, there's no reason for me to be here. Most of the points brought up against me I've already tried to explain, and every time I try to explain nobody seems to understand me anyway.

Maybe I'll post Sunday. Or maybe I'll just take a page out of RayFrost's playbook and not do anything to help the town at all. It's worked for him so far.

[elvis_knits]

I liked your post until you said this:

Or maybe I'll just take a page out of RayFrost's playbook and not do anything to help the town at all. It's worked for him so far.

[mikeburnfire]

I know, right? But it helps re-enforce the point that

RayFrost has not been helpful

.

[crypto]

I thought that was the most legit comment in his post.

[elvis_knits]

I know, right? But it helps re-enforce the point that

RayFrost has not been helpful

.

Isn't that his schtick?

[crypto]

Therefore, policy-lynch.

Wait, no. Er—

[RayFrost]

I know, right? But it helps re-enforce the point that

RayFrost has not been helpful

.

Isn't that his schtick?

No comment.

[crypto]

Unvote. Vote: RayFrost.

Let's cut the shit and do the thing.

[elvis_knits]

Whoa. Deja vu.

[mikeburnfire]

I can't sleep. I have been awake for about 24 hours and I need to stay awake for another 20. I'm so very very screwed.

I think I may have figured out the scumteam. It's Ray Frost, and two of [Elvis Knits, Pomegranite, Porochaz]. Of the two, I'd say Porochaz has been the most town, so my initial assumption would be Ray-Elvis-Pom.

My reasons consist of the fact that Ray Frost is obviously scum, and I'm willing to believe that he's foolish enough to forget to comment on his scumbuddies. Elvis latched on to me and really got my wagon started using 3-page old Spyrex attacks. Pomegranite's recent post is absolutely terrible, trying to justify voting me, while at the same time defending me for when I come up as town.

Porochaz, however, was very reluctant to vote Ray, and it was only after Ray failed to make a decent defense post that he voted him. The very next post he went after AGOTI again. And both he and Elvis have been working together to get the AGOTI wagon started. So I could see him as being the third with Elvis and Ray.