Kingdom Hearts Mafia - Game Over!

[Sir Chris]

Anyway my hangup on joining in on the fun is that I can see many scenarios where as town someone would post less often, although that is pretty bad considering their usual playstyle.

It is highly suspect, that I agree with. However I see absolutely no way Dragons doing what he did can be a person being town, so I am still going to push that lynch.

[RayFrost]

Issue with foil case:

it could be applied to other people in this game.

It is more of a general case rather than anything specific about his posts or what he's said.

As such, the case can be applied elsewhere (zwet, for the most obvious example), making it not one saying I should vote foil but rather one saying I should vote somebody that hasn't posted content.

[Gorrad]

In KH1, Riku is possesed by Ansem, causing his already-evil self to be totally evil. IF DisCode is Riku (and it's still a big if), then that's possibly what caused the mod scene. His being possessed. I went into speculation primarily to disprove Vaya's statement that if he was Riku, he had to be town.

[ace5993]

@mod: I am only voting for DeathNote, you have me voting for foilist13 as well. Thanks.

Also, if DisCode has not picked up his prod yet, could we look into a replacement?

I'm not as familiar with zwet's playstyle as you guys are so I'll wait for a proper long post from him before making an opinion.

[Cobalt]

lol, big post from zwets.

[Gorrad]

SNRK!

Nice.

[Slicey]

@mod: I am only voting for DeathNote, you have me voting for foilist13 as well. Thanks.

Also, if DisCode has not picked up his prod yet, could we look into a replacement?

I'm not as familiar with zwet's playstyle as you guys are so I'll wait for a proper long post from him before making an opinion.

Durr... >_>

Also, DisCode still has 48 hours or so to respond to the prod.

[RayFrost]

Interesting fact folks, I have yet to change my vote after over 50 posts.

I thought I had >.>

unvote, vote: vaya

[Plum]

I would like to point out that Sir Chris who has said as little (of relevance) as foilist showed up when I posted a case against him and then disappeared again. Way way way scummy.

That is all.

I apologize if I appear a bit in and out, I am used to much short day times and it is hard to adjust to such lengthy days, something I am working on.

I also realized that it looked pretty bad for me to come in right as you said that, but sadly it was nothing but coincidence, I just chose a troublesome time to log onto the website.

I'll note all the discussion about the games themselves is kinda making me distance myself from the topic, as I find it boring to see so many posts about the games and less to do with the actual game, I guess I shouldn't do that though.

you did a great job of posting lots and contenting none.

Um, yeah, but see what Fuzzylightning did above, which was scummy on a tearing-out-heir level (IiOA and his tone sounds like he's actually providing content).

So to say discussing anything with town (aside from outright saying stuff like "I think that guy is probably cop") is almost always beneficial, getting more and more thoughts out of people is always a good thing, it allows for a basis of thought.

But certain discussions at certain times can be more distracting and scum-masking and thus

are

anti-Town. Like (in this case) massive flavor musing on Day 1 (and I usually say that speculating scumteams Day 1 is a bad and counterproductive idea as well). Discussing the identity of the voice is probably not a productive Day 1 discussion. Either it's town and meant it when it said we shouldn't hunt for it or it's scum, in which case it's probably covered its tracks well enough that Day 1 speculation is, again, a distraction from helpful scumhunting. We don't even know how we'd go about hunting for it. If it's not blatantly scummy we take what it says with a little ol' grain of salt and move on.

In general I am against straight policy lynches. It's not an ironclad rule (if someone is acting only moderately scummy but is actively being very anti-Town and is known to often be a detriment to the Town [NOT THE SAME THING] I'm all for something of the sort. But there are cases where, pleasantly, you don't get a scumread on those people but don't auttolynch anyone and either they get more confirmed/it becomes apparent that they're unlikely scum later or they get lynched before LYLO depending.

Oooh, sweet, Shotty agrees with me on fuzzylightning.

I

still

don't have a scumread on Zwets, and the post that niggled wolframnhart (Off topic: don't you remember Grimmafia? I do).

Unvote; Vote: fuzzylightning

That post really rubbed me the wrong way. Lemme see how the situation develops.

[Vaya]

In KH1, Riku is possesed by Ansem, causing his already-evil self to be totally evil. IF DisCode is Riku (and it's still a big if), then that's possibly what caused the mod scene. His being possessed. I went into speculation primarily to disprove Vaya's statement that if he was Riku, he had to be town.

I was actually referring specifically to the period before and during KHII where Riku's physical appearance changed to that of Ansem. I would think that would be more likely to cause his rolename to be changed than anything else.

But enough speculation right now, we don't even know if the guy actually is Riku yet.

Let me ask you something though. If you think he's lying about millering himself and was doing something bad, why do you think he would admit he was the cause of it? This is one of the big reasons I'm inclined to believe him, if not given a good reason to be skeptical of it. In fact, also explain why you don't at all trust his claim, when you clearly have an understanding how it could be possible for him to be telling the truth.

Issue with foil case:

it could be applied to other people in this game.

It is more of a general case rather than anything specific about his posts or what he's said.

As such, the case can be applied elsewhere (zwet, for the most obvious example), making it not one saying I should vote foil but rather one saying I should vote somebody that hasn't posted content.

There is one thing specifically about foilist that made him catch my attention over others. Eight pages into the game, a good bit after discussion had started, he comes in to place a random vote, instead of commenting at all on what was going on or placing an actual vote on someone. I've actually seen scum random vote like this in a previous game I've been in on this site, so that especially caught my eye.

Really, he's said next to nothing game related at all so far. Can you actually point out someone else who has posted, but neglected to comment on the game at all to his extent? Even zwet hasn't been this bad, his few posts have at least been more than flavor talk.

Also Ray, your reasoning for finding me scummy are still idiotic and wrong.

[RayFrost]

Zwet hasn't really contributed

anything

, flavor talk or otherwise.

Also Vaya, your reasoning for finding my reasoning for finding you scummy are still pathetic and wrong.

[Cobalt]

I don't understand the Vaya wagon.

[saberwolf]

I don't understand the Vaya wagon.

I randomy started it with BS I pulled out of my ass, and for some reason others thought it would be fun to jump on. I'm just curious to see where this leads to...

[Cobalt]

wow gee that makes a lot of sense CHOO CHOO

[DragonsofSummer]

Unvote

There is a subtle difference in not posting, and posting nothing of content. For now you have started participating (as you state it is your day off) and so I am inclined to believe that which you say. (I also work retail I know how the hours can be).

The reason I was attacking you is because you had made no thoughts on anything or anyone in the game imo in your posts, not because of how few you had.

The omgus on me is noted, but I like the activity so no vote on you any more.

Cobalt makes a good point about Vaya wagon, but what do you think of RF's case against her as he is the only one on the wagon who has posted one?

vote Zwetschenwasser

his activity is definitely less than the other games I have seen him in.

[Cobalt]

I think RF's case on vaya is lame.

[Plum]

I think DoS' Zwets vote is lame.

[Cobalt]

what about mine

[saberwolf]

what about mine

wouldn't want to break the mold...your's is lame too

[Cobalt]

Um I was talking to Plum.

[saberwolf]

Um I was talking to Plum.

so?

[Cobalt]

So...... why did you answer?

[saberwolf]

So...... why did you answer?

1. because I can

2. you never said nobody else could input

3. you never directly addressed plum

[Sir Chris]

Unvote

There is a subtle difference in not posting, and posting nothing of content. For now you have started participating (as you state it is your day off) and so I am inclined to believe that which you say. (I also work retail I know how the hours can be).

The reason I was attacking you is because you had made no thoughts on anything or anyone in the game imo in your posts, not because of how few you had.

The omgus on me is noted, but I like the activity so no vote on you any more.

Cobalt makes a good point about Vaya wagon, but what do you think of RF's case against her as he is the only one on the wagon who has posted one?

vote Zwetschenwasser

his activity is definitely less than the other games I have seen him in.

Am I the only person who sees that as 'Oh, the inactive guy I was going after bites back, better hop off of him onto the next potential easy train'

[Cobalt]

w/e