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Post Post #500 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:25 pm

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Oh, ok. Not sure it'll help determine my alignment, but it's "Fade Into Violence".
Your claimed feat is something that would naturally disincline players from attacking you.
-If you were false claiming, it was possible you might not have thought it through (this is not the case).
-With 13AC, most attacks are liable to miss and trigger your feat (effectively giving you bonus attacks). I'm a bit surprised that you have not emphasized this.
Eh, I don't think he's lying about the feat. There's really no need for him to do so, considering that roles have no correlation to alignment, plus it'd be instantly obvious he was lying as soon as someone attacked him.

Of course, while I think he's telling the truth about his feat, that still dosn't have anything to do with his alignment.
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Post Post #501 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:35 pm

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Yosarian2 wrote:
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Oh, ok. Not sure it'll help determine my alignment, but it's "Fade Into Violence".
Your claimed feat is something that would naturally disincline players from attacking you.
-If you were false claiming, it was possible you might not have thought it through (this is not the case).
-With 13AC, most attacks are liable to miss and trigger your feat (effectively giving you bonus attacks). I'm a bit surprised that you have not emphasized this.
Eh, I don't think he's lying about the feat. There's really no need for him to do so, considering that roles have no correlation to alignment, plus it'd be instantly obvious he was lying as soon as someone attacked him.

Of course, while I think he's telling the truth about his feat, that still dosn't have anything to do with his alignment.
If he is scum attacking him seems extremely dangerous. Ive also been getting good feelings from his more recent posts. I think we should save him for another day if anything.
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Post Post #502 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2009 1:20 pm

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Oh, ok. Not sure it'll help determine my alignment, but it's "Fade Into Violence".
Your claimed feat is something that would naturally disincline players from attacking you.
-If you were false claiming, it was possible you might not have thought it through (this is not the case).
-With 13AC, most attacks are liable to miss and trigger your feat (effectively giving you bonus attacks). I'm a bit surprised that you have not emphasized this.
Eh, I don't think he's lying about the feat. There's really no need for him to do so, considering that roles have no correlation to alignment, plus it'd be instantly obvious he was lying as soon as someone attacked him.

Of course, while I think he's telling the truth about his feat, that still dosn't have anything to do with his alignment.
If he is scum attacking him seems extremely dangerous. Ive also been getting good feelings from his more recent posts. I think we should save him for another day if anything.
Eh. If he's scum, then attacking him now, when we can kill him fairly quickly and when we still all have full hitpoints, is probably less dangerous then attacking him later when we have less townies and more of us are wounded. If he's town, of course, we don't want to lynch him at all.

Can you explain why you got good feelings from his recent posts?
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Post Post #503 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2009 2:31 pm

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@Y2-
Eh, I don't think he's lying about the feat.
Agreed. As I stated before, it is plausible. Also, as you quoted, it doesn't look like he is making a thoughtless false claim.
There's really no need for him to do so, considering that roles have no correlation to alignment,
This is false. If scum were facing a lynch, they have incentive to claim anything that could reduce the likelihood of them actually being lynched. Based on chamber's post 501, the claimed feat can feasibly help this.

I'm not sure what to make of this; I would expect a player (town or scum) to emphasize it, but KY did not.
plus it'd be instantly obvious he was lying as soon as someone attacked him.
This is not clear. Fade into violence does not automatically trigger; a player chooses to use it. Even if KY has the feat, he could choose to not use it and we could not tell the difference.
If he's scum, then attacking him now, when we can kill him fairly quickly and when we still all have full hitpoints, is probably less dangerous then attacking him later when we have less townies and more of us are wounded.
Partial agreement. If town is going to lynch KY, then now is better than later. If town decides to lynch KY, we expect to do more damage from attacking than KY does from redirecting, unless his target has AC penalties.
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Post Post #504 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2009 4:34 pm

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@Kast: Do you think I'm lying about my feat or not? I didn't emphasize my feat because (1)I have a confession: I have NEVER played DnD, so I don't know what the ranges are for HP and AC; and (2)I don't want it to influence whether or not I'm lynched, as letting it influence that choice is dumb, since it is not indicative of alignment.
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Post Post #505 (ISO) » Thu Nov 19, 2009 5:22 pm

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If the scum were selected as random as the mod said, it doesn't matter what stats/feats Kirby have. He's still scum.

So, come on, more votes.
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Post Post #506 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:19 am

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Post Post #507 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:53 am

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I'll be around a few more hours today, then gone for the weekend. I will be traveling most of next week, so only sporadic access.

In case my turn comes around, I'm not going to take any action.
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Post Post #508 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:00 pm

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LA until the evening of the 29th. Notice I did not say V, just LA. I may be able to post, but not much. Sorry!
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Post Post #509 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2009 12:01 pm

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Oh, and I'm not taking any action either ;)
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Post Post #510 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:59 am

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I really dont see this game moving.

We need kirby lynch nao.
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Post Post #511 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:32 pm

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That's the problem with games without deadlines (and without mods ¬_¬).
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Post Post #512 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:13 pm

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Ok, I'll set a deadline, before this game crashes and burns from inactivity.

If Kirby still had a plurality of votes by Wednesday, I'm going to attack him. You have until then to convince the town to chance our minds. I'm saying Wednesday because I'm going away for thanksgiving on Thursday.
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Post Post #513 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2009 2:29 pm

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Yosarian2 wrote:Ok, I'll set a deadline, before this game crashes and burns from inactivity.

If Kirby still had a plurality of votes by Wednesday, I'm going to attack him. You have until then to convince the town to chance our minds. I'm saying Wednesday because I'm going away for thanksgiving on Thursday.
I don't even think kirby is scum and am willing to say "Just attack him" at this point.
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Post Post #514 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:09 pm

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Meh, I agree with Yos here. I believe it all has been said, and we just should move on.
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Post Post #515 (ISO) » Mon Nov 23, 2009 4:21 pm

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I see there's not much to catch up on but I'm still stuck in Central Texas with a truck sans clutch. My internet access is spotty at best. Since it's a short read I'll try and post before I have to get back out on the road.
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Post Post #516 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:37 pm

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I don't see how I can convince you I'm not scum, so I guess I'll just resign myself as the D1 Lynch.

What I learned from this game is how truly different this kind of setup can be, and how much players can differ. It's really hard to defend myself this game, for some odd reason. No matter what I do, everyone is convinced I'm scum...
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Post Post #517 (ISO) » Tue Nov 24, 2009 7:53 pm

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Kirbyoshi wrote:I don't see how I can convince you I'm not scum, so I guess I'll just resign myself as the D1 Lynch.

What I learned from this game is how truly different this kind of setup can be, and how much players can differ. It's really hard to defend myself this game, for some odd reason. No matter what I do, everyone is convinced I'm scum...
You did manage to change my mind if that makes you feel better. But at this point something needs to happen to get the game moving. Im thinking that the melee phase should have been a free for all instead of ordered to help move the game along, but there may have been a design point against that that Ive missed.
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Post Post #518 (ISO) » Wed Nov 25, 2009 3:35 am

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Ok, it's Wednesday, and as promised, let's move this.

Attack: Kirby


I know this is in order, but let's declare my action now. You know, just in case the mod ever returns to this game.
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Post Post #519 (ISO) » Wed Nov 25, 2009 10:22 am

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(shrug) Ok, let's do this then, before the game dies completly.

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Post Post #520 (ISO) » Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:40 am

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Can someone prod the mod? It's been ages since he said something!
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Post Post #521 (ISO) » Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:45 am

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In a few hours, I'll be going away for thanksgiving weekend. Might not have much or any internet access until monday.
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Post Post #522 (ISO) » Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:02 pm

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Hi all -- I've just been informed of your missing mod situation. I'm doing what I can to get hold of Tsq. I'll give him 96 hours to respond as it's a holiday weekend. After that, I'm not sure what will happen as his back-up mod, Oman, is missing from his
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Post Post #523 (ISO) » Sat Nov 28, 2009 4:11 am

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O man...hehe, get it? "Oman"?
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Post Post #524 (ISO) » Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:06 am

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