Mini 876 - Tree Stump II [Day None] (Abandoned)

[Tjoe Min Ja]

unvote

vote Kirbyoshi

I'm still working on my monitor...

[Kirbyoshi]

@Sanjay: Ya, pretty much. Seemed like a BS tactic until he explained it.

@Tjoe: Interesting! Care to explain that OMGUS vote, or are you just going to leave it like it is?

[Tjoe Min Ja]

Kirb, give me the case against me...you better explain your vote first...

[The Fonz]

Hi! Thank you for the vote Tjoe, It is much appreciated. Anywho, cases based souly on lurking are ridiculous.

No, no they're not. The point of lurking is to deliberately deprive the town of the opportunity to build a case based on anything else.

A lot of people have been inactive or apathetic about this game, but he has been pushing wrong causes

This vote stinks to high heaven. Surely the former is actually far more scummy than the latter? 'Pushing wrong causes?' You mean 'trying to scumhunt?' Also, why are Tjoe's cases wrong? And how is that different to your attacking Quagmire based on not reading what he said?

@Mod:

Sudo hasn't posted in nearly two weeks.

My problem with this game is, it seems like every time anyone comes under suspicion, they disappear, and then the replacement doesn't get caught up even though there's barely anything with which to catch up.

[Kirbyoshi]

Points against TJoe:
1. Iso2: If you don’t know that that “proposal” is a good idea, you’re beyond VI; you’re just dumb. And he obviously wasn’t joking, because he’s still waiting for an answer in his Iso3.
2. Iso4: The vote’s just wrong. Cybele just flaked. I knew that when I saw that post. Lurking is not scummy by itself.
3. Second part of Iso4: He asked for the link in his Iso0, and didn’t read the game? I have no intention of reading TS1, but if you’re the one who asks for the link, you’d better read what it links to.
4. Iso12: Why did he feel the need to re-vote Cybele? At that point, Cybele was obviously not coming back.
5. Iso19 misreps Quag. He never said Saber was “guaranteed town”; he said “all but guaranteed.” Quag never guaranteed anything.

[Kirbyoshi]

1. Iso2: If you don’t know that that “proposal” is

not

a good idea,

EBWOP

[saberwolf]

kirby: Quag is not misreped. By saying "all but confirmed" , Quag was saying that other than the fact that I can't be proven to be town unless i get lynched or NKed, he believes me to be town.

I think more sudo votes are in order, get him posting maybe.

unvote; vote: sudo nym

[Sudo_Nym]

Shit. I spent so long trying to do stuff for Mish Mash that I forgot I was in this game. Reading up...

[Kirbyoshi]

@saber: Quag said you were "all but confirmed." Tjoe tried to twist that to mean "confirmed," hence this quote:

I don't like this post....what make you think he is "guaranteed town"?
everyone is vanilla, so the only way you can guarantee that he is town is if you are scum.

And now that I'm back at school, and the OP is accurate, I'll get to work on that analysis!

[Quagmire]

Misreading someone's post isn't a scumtell.

I realize I've missed a lot of time the past couple weeks -- I'll reread since my first V/LA in the next couple days and see what I come up with...

[The Fonz]

Misreading someone's post isn't a scumtell.

Especially not when the player doing it is not a native English speaker. I'd hazard the guess that Tjoe does not understand the connotation of 'all but' given the choice of "confirmed town" to quote. I mean, deliberate misrepresentation is always a dangerous tactic for scum- I don't think i've ever used it. When using it, people tend to be sneaky about it. There's absolutely no guile about Tjoe that i've seen. He doesn't strike me as consciously playing on his noobness either.

Kirby would be an acceptable deadline lynch/stump, incidentally, though i'm not moving off sudo just yet.

[scotmany12]

Still prefer a sudo lynch/stump right now.

Also, we should force a player to stump quite a few days before the deadline. I wouldn't mind forcing sudo to stump right now, but just saying we should not wait until deadline, cause we can end up not getting a lynch/stump, going to night, and allowing the scum to have a night kill.

[Quagmire]

Still prefer a sudo lynch/stump right now.

Also, we should force a player to stump quite a few days before the deadline. I wouldn't mind forcing sudo to stump right now, but just saying we should not wait until deadline, cause we can end up not getting a lynch/stump, going to night, and allowing the scum to have a night kill.

Agreed. I still think we should go with Shanba, but I'm going to reread the thread to see what else I can come up with.

[Sanjay]

Where is Sudo_Nym exactly? Did he forget about the game again? Is Mish Mash that enticing?

[scotmany12]

Shit. I spent so long trying to do stuff for Mish Mash that I forgot I was in this game. Reading up...

Soooooo....how is this going?

[Sanjay]

Also, where the heck is Haylen?

[The Fonz]

And discode is now into his seventh day without posting.

Is Kairyuu being replaced? He said last tuesday he would post the following day, then go V/LA from the 29th till the 14th december. He didn't post the following day, or at any point before V/LA, and considering he replaced a lurker, well, not replacing him would mean getting nothing from that role all day one.

So that's a third of the game not playing, and Quag STILL apparently doesn't know Shanba was replaced two weeks ago, and all the players are talking about is how other players aren't posting...

I'm really getting to hate this game.

[saberwolf]

Lol, I was at that stage when the game started :/

This game is soooooo dead.

[DisCode]

Sorry for not posting my analysis yet. Have been busy for a couple days.
Should be back into action tomorrow.

[Haylen]

Also, where the heck is Haylen?

Haylen has been ill and has had an exam, she is currently (hopefully) temperarally deaf in one ear. I'm still reading.

Also, Quag didn't misrep.

[Haylen]

Sudo has posted in every thread except this one.

[Sanjay]

Haven't you posted a little bit too much NO CONTENT AT ALL to be criticizing people for not posting, Haylen?

[Haylen]

I was adding to the conversation. Is that scummy too? What about making cases? Asking fucking questions? What the heck is scummy anymore? Jeez, i need a break...

[Sanjay]

Seriously, Haylen?

[Haylen]

Seriously? I dont know what seriously is anymore. I was just adding to the conversation. It's what we do. We talk. It's a mafia game. we're meant to use logic and stuff to find scum. Hence the talking.