Open 184: Friends and Enemies Mafia (Over)

[DarkLightA]

The mod hasn't posted for 5 days...What's standard procedure for that?

Saying that it's 3.5 days instead of 5.

[Netopalis]

Oh, you're here. Mind responding to the allegations against you?

[DarkLightA]

Sure, I find it understandable that people are suspicious. I find farside suspicious. That's just life.

[Ellibereth]

I'm back from Thanksgiving, but I'm tired as hell.
I'll read through and post something later today.
Hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving.

[Lab Mafia]

I had to go to people all week and on Tuesday my parents took my computer I will post a vote count later today and I am prodding Yarmond and Toro now

[hewitt]

Konowa has a unique meta when it comes to me.

Konowa as town has always voted for me and finds some excuse to vote for me in the RVS.

He also likes to vote without real reason, one of his town tells. If he was scum, he'd have built up a better case before he attacked me.

Konowa's naturally an easy target for scum from my own experiences playing with him.

You failed to give any logical reasoning behind the two. I think Saber is scummier. Therefore you have tied yourself to him a slight bit. 106 is also interesting...

Where is this illogical leap in logic coming from? I totally do not see the connection at all.

Also, Where is Hewitt's vote? I don't remember him being on the DLA wagon.

Could've easily been answered if you'd just ISO'd me, completely unnecessary question.

DLA can you give any better reasoning for that vote in post 74? Because that was honestly God awful.

[DarkLightA]

DLA can you give any better reasoning for that vote in post 74? Because that was honestly God awful.

I think it'd seem like a good tactic..

[kikuchiyo]

Shotty had two players he thought scummy. He seemed to randomly choose one over the other. Therefore he connects himself to the one he's not lynching if the one he lynches flips town. Its not an illogical leap. Shotty has since attempted to explain himself, however, the connection still stands depending on flips.

You, however, have avoided an inquiry.

If DLA's vote is "fake", please show how. Neither you nor Hewitt has gone to those lengths.

Please explain what is "fake" about the vote. If it is the "fakest" vote you have ever seen, please explain why it has not warranted your vote.

[farside22]

DLA can you give any better reasoning for that vote in post 74? Because that was honestly God awful.

I think it'd seem like a good tactic..

I just disputed your comments.
First there was only 1 vote on you when I voted. Second I didn't defend you as you stated.

[DarkLightA]

This (You were being pressured)

Unvote, vote: DLA

Chainsaw defense by Farside? Are you guys 2/3 of the mafia?

Explain how my comment is a chainsaw defense. Do you find it not scummy to put words that someone didn't say into their statement?
Mind you as I said just the post previously I understand better what saber was doing but I see scum put twist interpretation into peoples statement more often then not.

[Ellibereth]

I think DL always acts this way...and I still don't understand post 74 at all.

In general, I also don't get the big deal with the chainsaw defense thing.

@Sabre: What's the big deal about not RVing? Why is being dogmatic scummy?

I find the whole thing confirming Konowa as town due to him voting Sabre is ridiculous.

Unvote, Vote Saber

[Albert B. Rampage]

That's it? Your first post in 6 pages and that's all you have to offer?

Unvote, vote Elibereth

You have a looooot of content to post before you can redeem yourself for your absence.

[saberwolf]

I think DL always acts this way...and I still don't understand post 74 at all.

In general, I also don't get the big deal with the chainsaw defense thing.

@Sabre: What's the big deal about not RVing? Why is being dogmatic scummy?

I find the whole thing confirming Konowa as town due to him voting Sabre is ridiculous.

Unvote, Vote Saber

Being dogmatic is to assume that you are always right, and do not care to change your views on the matter. That is anti-town for this game, and the fact that he decided not to be dogmatic on the issue gave me the feeling to unvote him for at least allowing himself to see another person's view.

I don't expect you to get the Konowa meta, but it's something I've just personally seen him do always as town so I'm following with it.

[hewitt]

DLA can you give any better reasoning for that vote in post 74? Because that was honestly God awful.

I think it'd seem like a good tactic..

I don't care whether you thought it was a good tactic or not it was still a shitty reasoning.

Please explain what is "fake" about the vote. If it is the "fakest" vote you have ever seen, please explain why it has not warranted your vote.

Just because something is fake doesn't mean it's not subjective. Just because I feel like that vote was fake doesn't mean I'm just going to vote for a stupid townie. When I feel like I've caught scum I'm going to vote, not just vote for the first player I think has done something stupid. Because many stupid townies make mistakes.

[Netopalis]

I will vote DLA if the vote count shows that it would not put him in the danger zone.

Essentlally, I find that the whole "lynch me if you want" mentality is used by scum primarily. Due to the fact that scum's goal is survival, it is a way for them to appear town by making it look like they're playing against their goal - or for the town one. Overall, I really don't like his posts - even given that I played with him before and I posted the stuff about his meta.

[kikuchiyo]

I will vote DLA if the vote count shows that it would not put him in the danger zone.

What exactly would be the point of said vote?

[Netopalis]

To encourage him to put up better posts.

[kikuchiyo]

Doesn't sound very encouraging:

"Hey man, post better or I'm going to put you in no danger."

[Albert B. Rampage]

Looks like this game is slowing down. I'll be L/A for the next 10 days.

[farside22]

This (You were being pressured)

Unvote, vote: DLA

Chainsaw defense by Farside? Are you guys 2/3 of the mafia?

Explain how my comment is a chainsaw defense. Do you find it not scummy to put words that someone didn't say into their statement?
Mind you as I said just the post previously I understand better what saber was doing but I see scum put twist interpretation into peoples statement more often then not.

It's wasn't a chainsaw defense. I didn't understand the term and when explained it didn't fit tha accusations.

[Konowa]

@Mod- Going to have to ask for replacement. Apologies to all.

[DarkLightA]

I had to go to people all week and on Tuesday my parents took my computer I will post a vote count later today and I am prodding Yarmond and Toro now

Posted 27/11.

[Netopalis]

Sure, I find it understandable that people are suspicious. I find farside suspicious. That's just life.

Can you do a bit better than this? Saying "Yeah, I'd find me scummy too" doesn't help us any....

[Lab Mafia]

I am sorry I haven't been active. I have lost my computer vote count will be up asap

[Netopalis]

Any updates on Toro or Yarmond?