Mini 865 -- Evil Eyes (Over)

[Symbol]

Okay, I'm a vanilla townie.

You're next, iamausername. Nobody else may claim until iamausername has claimed.

[iamausername]

Vanilla townie.

Erik can go next.

[Symbol]

Why not Lock?

[EriktheRed]

I'm a vanilla townie.

Lock, go.

[MacavityLock]

What up yo. I am a townie.

I would prefer for tubby to go next, but as he is being replaced, would everyone just rather we get Torq to claim and move on, or wait for replacement?

[Symbol]

Torqez claims, and then we twiddle our thumbs until tubby's replacement shows up and claims.

[Torqez]

VT

Can someone explain 'hypocop' to me?

[Symbol]

Really? We're

all

town, huh? Vigilante, doc, no cop? Can someone point me to another example of 3 mafia, 7 townies, 1 doc, 1 vig? In the meantime, tubby's replacement needs to hurry the hell up.

Torqez, it doesn't matter now that we've all just claimed vanilla townie, but the way it works is every player claims cop and gives the results of his investigations. For example:

Night 1: investigated Torqez. Innocent.
Night 2: investigated EriktheRed. Innocent.

Like that. Or:

Night 1: investigated Torqez. Innocent.
Night 2: investigated EriktheRed. Guilty.

That's how it would work, but again, we can't do it now that we've all claimed town.

[HowardRoark]

Vote Count (D3)

tubby216

(2) -- EriktheRed, Torqez
MacavityLock (1) -- Symbol
~No Lynch~ (2) -- iamausername, MacavityLock

Not Voting (1) --

tubby216

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.

Deadline is 15 DEC 2009 at 7:10pm UTC. (Countdown)

Still seeking a replacement for tubby216.

[tubby216]

@ the mod i can try to limp along for as long as i can but expect my participation to be limited at best. if this helps?


bythe way i am VT as well

[Symbol]

I cannot believe the setup is this vanilla. Huh. It is what it is. Tubby for possible mafia roleblocker. Choo-choo on Lock.

[tubby216]

you do realize that if you lynch me and you are wrong its prolly endgame right??

i mean unless you have some magic fairy "win" dust you can pull out of you ass tonite you fail.

or you are scumm like i have been claimin that you are all game .

at anyrate i am not willing to risk the game on an assumption

vote:no-lynch

[iamausername]

OK, so, massclaim is done. Considerably less enlightening than I was hoping, but what can you do.

Anyway, I'm still not ready to vote tubby, because I am getting really, really bad vibes from Symbol today. He's condemned the speed of yesterday's lynch, even though he had absolutely no problem with it yesterday. He's also been urging people to vote for tubby, tubby is obvscum, while continuing to condemn the speed of yesterday's lynch AND not actually voting tubby himself. I get a very strong impression that Symbol is waiting for someone to put tubby at L-1 so he can hammer, because he doesn't want to leave the hammer in the hands of town. I don't see why else he wouldn't be voting tubby right now.

[tubby216]

OK, so, massclaim is done. Considerably less enlightening than I was hoping, but what can you do.

Anyway, I'm still not ready to vote tubby, because I am getting really, really bad vibes from Symbol today. He's condemned the speed of yesterday's lynch, even though he had absolutely no problem with it yesterday. He's also been urging people to vote for tubby, tubby is obvscum, while continuing to condemn the speed of yesterday's lynch AND not actually voting tubby himself. I get a very strong impression that Symbol is waiting for someone to put tubby at L-1 so he can hammer, because he doesn't want to leave the hammer in the hands of town. I don't see why else he wouldn't be voting tubby right now.

good points however i still favor a nolynch over a symbol lynch

[Symbol]

Last post before

Thanksgiving weekend V/LA

.

Iamausername:

Anyway, I'm still not ready to vote tubby, because I am getting really, really bad vibes from Symbol today. He's condemned the speed of yesterday's lynch, even though he had absolutely no problem with it yesterday.

Where did I condemn the speed of yesterday's lynch? All I see is "That does not mean we are going to race to a lynch again." Don't conflate eagerness to wagon (and then possibly/probably lynch) with eagerness to quick-lynch.

He's also been urging people to vote for tubby, tubby is obvscum, while continuing to condemn the speed of yesterday's lynch AND not actually voting tubby himself.

Yeah, I forgot I'd switched over to MacavityLock. Hence the redundant Lock vote after my analysis. (I'm totally scummy, by the way, for being the only one who's made any significant contribution day 3.)

I get a very strong impression that Symbol is waiting for someone to put tubby at L-1 so he can hammer, because he doesn't want to leave the hammer in the hands of town. I don't see why else he wouldn't be voting tubby right now.

No, silly, I want to lynch Lock before tubby. That should be obvious. I

can

see tubby being an asshole townie, though I do think that's about a one-in-a-hundred shot. Lock is just straight-up regular scum with his brain screwed on straight. Hence the Lock vote. I assure you, if the remaining scum (two, I assume) wanted to mislynch tubby they, could have gotten it done in a heartbeat.

Oh, wait, epiphany.

There are now two votes on tubby. Every player has been online recently. Lack of an L-1 and quick hammer can mean one of a few things:

A. Tubby is mafia. His teammate is voting for him.
B. Tubby is mafia. His teammate is not voting for him.
C. Tubby is town. One or two mafiosi are already voting for him.
D. Tubby is town. Zero mafiosi are voting for him.

If tubby is town and neither mafioso is voting for him, then they should have put him at L-1 and quick-hammered him by now. If only one mafioso is voting for him, then the best move for the other is to wait for a townie to vote for tubby, and then hammer him.

So option D is literally impossible unless the mafia is really, really,

really

stupid. Option C is possible, I guess, but I still don't think tubby is town. Option A or B makes the most sense.

Which just got me thinking: Should I put tubby-scum at L-1 so the

town

can quick-hammer him?

I maintain that tubby is playing worse than his meta. (On average, at least...?)

[Symbol]

Also, Lock's failure to pressure his scum buddy tubby isn't looking good for him.

Although I guess the same could be said of iamausername, had I a town read on him.

[Symbol]

Unvote.

Tubby, Lock, and iamausername are all on no-lynch.

Erik and Torqez, please do not hammer no-lynch.

Lock or iamausername, bearing in mind that I will be not voting no-lynch today, give me one good reason why I should not vote for tubby right now.

[MacavityLock]

Don't forget, JVW was a commuter.

This Day 3 didn't deserve a ton of contribution, and I'm kind of pissed that we went through with a mass-claim today. Now that we've done it though, I want to hear Erik and Torq's reactions to results of the mass-claim before doing anything horribly interesting like lynching tubby.

By the way Symbol, I'm one of approximately 2 people who did any real work on Day 2, and didn't quicklynch Nuwen/Looker, so please stop with your "ML doesn't scumhunt" argument.

Preview edit: I would like to hear from Erik and Torq, but if you're super 100% confident in your town read of username, I guess have fun.

[EriktheRed]

I personally think we might have a Tubby/Symbol scumteam. I perceived his reluctance to actually vote Tubby as a means of distancing but not actually bussing. He wouldn't bus his partner since a mislynch on Lock could win him the game. If Tubby/Symbol weren't the scumteam, Symbol would have probably stayed on Tubby because one of two scenarios would take place: 1. Tubby-town, Symbol-scum, which would mean Symbol would just hop onto the Tubby wagon and not vote Lock, or 2. Tubby-scum, Symbol-town, which would again have no merit for voting Lock over Tubby.

I don't see any way Tubby is not scum, however. If he's really town, he's the worst player I've ever had the misfortune to play with (and I've played with some bad ones).

The massclaim was hilarious.

[tubby216]

I don't see any way Tubby is not scum, however. If he's really town, he's the worst player I've ever had the misfortune to play with (and I've played with some bad ones).

The massclaim was hilarious.

if this statement is true, then you haven't played alot of games then huh?

if you get bored check my wikki to see more horribleness

[Symbol]

Hi. I explained why I wanted to lynch Lock today (and tubby tomorrow), Erik, but fuck it. Apparently the new cool thing to do is throw half-assed accusations at Symbol despite his analysis being the only thing of substance in a long fucking time.

Vote: tubby216.

[iamausername]

i'm just gonna leave this here

Unvote, Vote: tubby

[Symbol]

(Holds breath.)

[tubby216]

yah good job i was town

[Symbol]

Sigh. You are also blacklisted.