Legacy of the Ancients Mafia (That's All, Folks!)

Xylthixlm · Post Post #750 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2009 3:18 pm

I'm trying!

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #751 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:35 pm

I think Xyl is scum trying to manipulate us.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #752 (ISO) » Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:29 pm

Name a game where you didn't think I was scum trying to manipulate you.

animorpherv1 · Post Post #753 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:24 am

zwetschenwasser wrote:I think Xyl is scum trying to manipulate us.

This. Starbuck is also right. I don't think dramonic read all of Day 1. If dramonic would like to explain why he thinks Budja bg'ed Xyl in reference to the Night 1 Scene, go for it.

I say Starbuck is right because if I was a protown role, I'd at least say why I have this reason. Not saying it makes me think he is more of a lyncher then a pro towm info role.

vote: Mufasa

Sajin · Post Post #754 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:24 am

Dang- I went to a party last night and I missed the party in the thread. Sheesh.

@Starbuck- Why are you in Mufasa's face? I think your just throwing mud to try and discredit here. Could it not be just as likely from my perspective that you were trying to protect Sociopath?

@Animorpherv- Jester speculation? Lyncher speculation? Why did you think this? Please explain.

animorpherv1 · Post Post #755 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:25 am

Also, I'm going to go back to Day 0/Day 1 for a moment.

animorpherv1 · Post Post #756 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:38 am

Sajin wrote:@Animorpherv- Jester speculation? Lyncher speculation? Why did you think this? Please explain.

Jester was just in case. Now that I'm looking at it, Lyncher seems likley. You should be giving your reasons for why you think someone is scum, even if it was, in his case "I have a bad investigation on SocioPath". Not saying why in public is bad, and in my opinion in a lyncher tell.

I'm going to check my inbox, and possibly say something.

animorpherv1 · Post Post #757 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:41 am

I'm going to ask to get vigged/killed tonight. NOONE ELSE target me, please.

Maemuki · Post Post #758 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:23 am

Because, Xyl, you saw the accusation before I posted. Socio didn't.

@ ani, why the hell do you want to die?! Is this SSK part 2?

@ Mufasa, first off, it's Muki not Maki. Or Mae, either one. Also there's a good OMGUS there on Starbuck. (You gotta admit - you're voting for the person that doubted you and you're FoSing another person who doubted you as well. Seriosuly?)

Starbuck · Post Post #759 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:28 am

Sajin wrote:@Starbuck- Why are you in Mufasa's face? I think your just throwing mud to try and discredit here. Could it not be just as likely from my perspective that you were trying to protect Sociopath?

I'm not trying to discredit Mufasa, but I think only saying that you have a reason to believe that someone is scum rather than stating that reason is questionable. It definitely seems like he's trying to cover his own tail.

I'm going to remind you again that Mufasa is NOT confirmed. Looking at the different factions that have flipped thus far, and it makes me question Mufasa's motives.

animorpherv1 · Post Post #760 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:57 am

Maemuki wrote:@ ani, why the hell do you want to die?! Is this SSK part 2?

Sort of, yea.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #761 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:32 am

Starbuck wrote:I'm not trying to discredit Mufasa, but I think only saying that you have a reason to believe that someone is scum rather than stating that reason is questionable. It definitely seems like he's trying to cover his own tail.

No, it is exactly the right play. Consider if Mufasa is, say, a tracker who saw SocioPath visit Boxman - it's strong reason to think that SocioPath is scum who made the kill, but if he says "I saw SocioPath target Boxman" then SocioPath can just claim some other reason to make the target. There are other info roles which get similarly suggestive-but-not-conclusive evidence. Mufasa has to hide what exact info he has and get Boxman to claim first - that way there's a good chance that if Boxman really is scum he'll claim something that contradicts Mufasa's info.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #762 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:34 am

animorpherv1 wrote:
zwetschenwasser wrote:I think Xyl is scum trying to manipulate us.
This.

Turn on your brain, please. There isn't a chance in hell that I'm a Shadow, so even if you think I'm scum, why would I be trying to protect Shadows?

animorpherv1 wrote:I say Starbuck is right because if I was a protown role, I'd at least say why I have this reason. Not saying it makes me think he is more of a lyncher then a pro towm info role.

vote: Mufasa

You are either completely crazy, or scum.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #763 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 6:27 am

Ani, ???

animorpherv1 · Post Post #764 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:11 am

Xylthixlm wrote:
animorpherv1 wrote:
zwetschenwasser wrote:I think Xyl is scum trying to manipulate us.
This.
Turn on your brain, please. There isn't a chance in hell that I'm a Shadow, so even if you think I'm scum, why would I be trying to protect Shadows?
We know your not an Ancient, and for all we know, Forsaken could be a mafia group.[/n]

animorpherv1 wrote:I say Starbuck is right because if I was a protown role, I'd at least say why I have this reason. Not saying it makes me think he is more of a lyncher then a pro towm info role.

vote: Mufasa
You are either completely crazy, or scum.

Neither. I do things my own way. If I was scum would I REALLY want someone to kill me?

Zwet, if you want to explain, that would be nice.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #765 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:14 am

I'm still not Forsaken either.

animorpherv1 · Post Post #766 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:20 am

Xylthixlm wrote:I'm still not Forsaken either.

Then how come that was the consensus I never really saw you argue Day 1?

animorpherv1 · Post Post #767 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:41 am

So, from reading the list of races, this is what I've gathered:

Shadows and Others are for sure Mafia.

Walkers are most likley a cult.

I think we should speculate what we think the list of roles could possibly be over the night, and say what we came up with over the nght phase.

Xylthixlm · Post Post #768 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:25 am

animorpherv1 wrote:
Xylthixlm wrote:I'm still not Forsaken either.
Then how come that was the consensus I never really saw you argue Day 1?

Pay better attention.

Mufasa · Post Post #769 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:19 pm

Maemuki wrote:Because, Xyl, you saw the accusation before I posted. Socio didn't.

@ ani, why the hell do you want to die?! Is this SSK part 2?

@ Mufasa, first off, it's Muki not Maki. Or Mae, either one. Also there's a good OMGUS there on Starbuck. (You gotta admit - you're voting for the person that doubted you and you're FoSing another person who doubted you as well. Seriosuly?)

It had nothing to do with you doubting me, it had everything with you saying something about whether to believe me or him, BEFORE, he even said anything for us to believe.

@ Anni you are just a nutcase, your delusional, and there is good truth in what XYL has to say.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #770 (ISO) » Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:33 pm

Shouldn't you be explaining, Ani? Why so quick to agree with me without logic?

animorpherv1 · Post Post #771 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2009 5:47 am

zwetschenwasser wrote:Shouldn't you be explaining, Ani? Why so quick to agree with me without logic?

So missed that. But I had that feeling a while ago.

zwetschenwasser · Post Post #772 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:42 am

dramonic · Post Post #773 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2009 6:55 am

animorpherv1 wrote:This. Starbuck is also right. I don't think dramonic read all of Day 1. If dramonic would like to explain why he thinks Budja bg'ed Xyl in reference to the Night 1 Scene, go for it.

This is a whole bunch of nonsense. Of course I've read the whole Day 1.

I see no adequate reason why Mufasa should claim how his role works exactly. If he has an investigated guilty on someone we should just lynch that person. If Mufasa lied he dies, simple.

Furthermore, I DID read all of day 1. And rereading the night scene, I think I have a better theory of what happened.

Let's read along, shall we?

FL said wrote: Because I can engineer your assassination if you'd like ^-^.
Might be me who does it.
Condemn: Xylthixlm
I posted it in thread because I misread it. I had no requirement to. I just tend to post daykills in thread anyway, and I thought that this was rapid action.
Condemn. I got that...well, let's just say I might be able to do it again but it's not one of my abilities necessarily.

My read on this is that FL doesn't "own" condemn, but it's an ability shared by a group. She doesn't have to be the one who does it, hell, odds are that she posted it in thread to divert attention to her so that the kill wouldn't go through.

Furthermore:

Tar said wrote: In the meanwhile, malthusis walks along the station with an air of intense concentration. He - rather, she - has two tasks to deal with tonight,
one personal and one official
. It wouldn't do to be late...
However, as malthusis prepares to execute her first assignment, she is stopped by Budja...

THe second task, official, could very well be a group submitted ability. Since she flipped town, it's not a mafia kill. Get where I'm going with this?

The first task, the personal one, is another interesting piece of puzzle, which I think I might have an idea about. It would also explain why Budja is dead.

Tar said wrote: But... why was he found in the Ancient officials' quarters?

About Malt

Tar sent me wrote: Wait, is that a bloodstain on your wall? Did something happen while you were away?

Yes, it is a weak association, but I'm ancient and I reckon I'm a more logical target for a bodyguard than Xyl-Forsaken here.

The question is: Why would Malt try to vig me too?

Mufasa · Post Post #774 (ISO) » Sun Nov 22, 2009 7:45 am

I missed that how do you know malt tried to vig you?