Mini 867- TTGL Mafia: GAME OVER: Roles posted.

[MonkeyMan576]

I think SB is telling the truth about her role, but lying about being town. She was probably recruited.

Jahudo is confirmed cult, the town would be in a very bad position if we lynched a townie(Cobalt) based on a recruited players claim. I think we have to go after the 100% confirmed baddie at this point, or else he could recruit again and get closer to winning the game.

[Cobalt]

lol, jah is the cult? cool.

unvote vote jahudo

My claim makes no sense as scum. I could easily have claimed a weak info role who targeted Vi. Instead I denied SB's claim and put myself way out there for no benefit. I would not be surprised if SB was indeed a scum watcher- just like War in Heaven II.
In other news we need to lynch cult or cult wins, I think.

[Snow_Bunny]

Cute, trying to get off the hook. Sorry, but no. Die scum.

[Cobalt]

You're not being reasonable.
SB, how many scum do you think there are now? Cult?

[MonkeyMan576]

How cute, the two cultists(Jahudo and SB) are trying to get out of losing...

[Slicey]

SB isn't scum based on her crumbs. She's definitely a watcher, and was at least town for a time. The only thing I could see is that she could be cult.

...Actually, know that I think about it, it could make sense for her and Jahudo to orchestrate this claim that Jahudo targeted Vi to make it look like there are no cult other than Jahudo... but then why would he claim to have recruited somebody?

I'm seriously at a loss of what to do now.

Unvote

We have a very likely scum in Cobalt. We have a claimed Cult Recruiter in Jahudo. He claims to have culted someone. What I don't understand is why he would do that. The question is,

do we lynch Jahudo or Cobalt?

If Jahudo is telling the truth, then we'd probably want to lynch him, as we don't even know the size of the scum team. It could be only a one or two man team or something like that. So if we lynch Cobalt, and there's only one scum left after that (assuming a two man scumteam), then the next day there could possibly be three cult and only 5 players left (assuming an NK), giving the cult the win.

I really need to think about this more.

[Cobalt]

She might well be a watcher, as I said, but that doesn't rule out her being scum.

[Jahudo]

Monkey, who do you think the killers are?

Where's Yos and Chaco?

[Cobalt]

Jah, who have you culted?

[Jahudo]

I won't tell. And depending on what Yos and Chaco say will help me decide if I reveal the name of our day killer(s). I'm leaning on telling.

[MonkeyMan576]

#1 rule in mafia: Don't believe scum info(or cult).

I don't know who the day killer is, and I don't know what the point in speculating is.

[Cobalt]

Um, if the daykiller is scum we'd love to know who he is.

[MonkeyMan576]

Yeah, but we don't know, and how do you propose we figure it out?

[Cobalt]

Jah seems to know.

[MonkeyMan576]

I wouldn't believe him if he told us. He is cult and needs to die.

[Yosarian2]

Ok, sweet, MonkeyMan is now confirmed town as well. That helps a lot.

Cobalt, we know you're scum. Just tell us, how many partners do you have?

[Chaco]

Hmm, would the cultists suicide in this case?

[Cobalt]

Ok, sweet, MonkeyMan is now confirmed town as well. That helps a lot.

Cobalt, we know you're scum. Just tell us, how many partners do you have?

I'm SK. Gundam flavor. I made all the nightkills so far, but none of the daykills.

[Jahudo]

I don't know scum for a fact, but from my position I feel confident about a few lies. Day killer and night killer seem to be two different factions: SK and Mafia.

I'm really confident Vi was the night kill instead of Slicey, so Cobalt is the night killer. But I think he is working alone based on who I also think is scum, and more likely scum as a mafia team.

I think it would be best to go after the mafia over Cobalt, but he is scum in the bag and I suppose I could target mafia tonight.

[Jahudo]

Dang, the one time I forget to preview :/

[Jahudo]

ahhh, sorry for trying to sell you out. I do think we should lynch mafia today because if the town lynches Cobalt today and me tomorrow, then mafia automatically wins.

[Cobalt]

I have to get cult lynched today to win, then try to kill off mafia as they kill town. Lynching cult is the only way to pull off a non-mafia win. I think there's 2 power role mafiates, 2 cult (recruiter jah and whoever his recruit is) plus me, SK. I assume the mafia controls the daykills. If we lynch Jah today cult can't win, mafia kills town, and we go into tomorrow with 2 mafia, 3 town (one culted), and me. It'll be hard for me to win but lynching Jah is the best play for me, town, and mafia- all three non-cult factions will lose if Jah recruits again tonight. He needs to get lynched. Likely then mafia NKs town, mafia gets lynched, and we all take our chances in endgame, otherwise cult wins.

[Cobalt]

Just to outline it for town: I'm the least dangerous antitown faction. The cult grows each night and wins (I assume) when it controls half the vote. If I'm right and Jah recruited once already, he wins tomorrow unless we lynch him, as he'lll have 3 out of 5 alive. Mafia wins when it controls the vote, and I'm pretty sure there's 2 of them, so they win when there's 4 alive (again assuming the same control the vote wincon). I can only when when everyone is dead and I am still alive, meaning the town can afford to lynch jah, then mafia, then me without jeopardizing its win condition.

[Jahudo]

I probably made a mistake by claiming cult. Who woulda thought.

I think Yos and Monkey is the mafia team. Yos was the day killer, Monkey was the vanilla-izer. I know Monkey lied about his role PM for reasons I can't discuss. Just promise me you night kill or lynch Monkey after I'm gone.

Vote: Jahudo

[Cobalt]

Don't worry, it's in my best interests to kill mafia.