Mini 852- Crayola Catastrophe Game Over (Post 1158)

[SocioPath]

Socio, please address 1133. Specifically, you said that you found it strange that scum had never targeted either you or EK, because you both appeared townie. I then said that it was likely that scum

had

targeted EK, but you replied that it was also strange that Yankee was killed last night. What point were you trying to bring out?

As you haven't replied to 1133, and more...

Vote: Socio

.

Lern2Reed

[elvis_knits]

Pome is not making any sense. She believes Socio is scum, and scum tried to kill e_k night 2. Why would scum kill his lover? That is beyond WIFOM. Scum wouldn't commit suicide. I still feel good about my vote.

I agree.

vote Pome

[ChiboSempai]

For some reason I'm still getting the feeling that there is a lone killer in the game. In the case of such I really can't see that person then being tied to a lover as then if one of those two people were lynched then the game would be over.

I want to stay away from EK and Socio. I could see Pome as a possible candidate, but I would still rather stick to my original gut feeling of Jahudo.

[Pomegranate]

Deadline?

[Pomegranate]

Ack. Deadline?

[SocioPath]

Crap that deadline is in eastern time.
Under majority deadline lynches suck.

Vote: Pom

She needs to die.

[Pomegranate]

I think I would've died anyway, as I had three votes, the majority.

[SocioPath]

I think I would've died anyway, as I had three votes, the majority.

Under majority deadline lynches suck.

It takes 4 to lynch.

[Battousai]

Vote Count

Pomegranate (4)- Kirbyoshi, Jahudo, elvis_knits, SocioPath
Jahudo (1)- ChiboSempai
SocioPath (1)- Pomegranate

Not Voting (0)- No one

Death Scene

As the day drew to a close, the town was in a consensus

Kirbyoshi: Ok, so we are all in agreement?

Pomegranate

must die.

ChiboSempai: No,

Jahudo

needs to die!

Pomegranate: Ya, or

SocioPath

! Really, anyone but me!

Kirbyoshi: Well, it's 4 against 2. You die. Now.

Jahudo: Quick, grab her!

SocioPath: To the sharpener!!!!!

The other 5 crayons take Pomegranate to the sharpener

elvis_knits: Any last words?

Pomegranate: Fine, I admit it. I killed

Totally Awesome Dude

. There, you happy? I killed him because I had to, for all of us. Everyone thinks

Totally Awesome Dude

is their best friend. Guess what? He's not. You can't be best friends with everyone, you're just friends to him. He told me all of this at the bar the day he died. I was so furious. I felt so betrayed. I did what any of you would do if you had the guts. I slipped him a roofie in his drink and knocked him out. Then I took him to the sharpener and finished him off. You guys shouldn't be killing me. You should be thanking me. Thanking me for making your lives much easier, for ridding everyone of that scum of a person. So please, don't kill me. You need me, for the next person who comes along and acts like

Totally Awesome Dude

.

...

ChiboSempai: She's right. She did us a favor. I say we let her live.

Jahudo: Ya, I agree.

SocioPath: I forgive her.

elvis_knits: Ok, lets get her off that tube to the sharpener.

ChiboSempai: Give me your hand...ugh!

As ChiboSempai reaches for Pomegranate, he slips and pushes her into the sharpener

SocioPath: Well, no harm no foul. She was a killer after all.

Jahudo: Who's up for getting drunk?!

All surviving members of the town...

????: Hey Battousai! Did you finish your art project yet?

Battousai: Uh... I'm just about to start it after I do something real quick....

You know you have been playing too much Mafia when...

Pomegranate -

Serial Killer

- has been lynched D4

The Town (Shanba, SocioPath, Kirbyoshi, Yankee, ChiboSempai, Jahudo, Nachomamma8, ZazieR, elvis_knits) and the Jester (semioldguy) WIN!!!

[Battousai]

You are the red crayon. Someone killed your best friend, Totally Awesome Dude. You must find out who and make them pay. Everyday, you may participate in voting on who is the killer(s). At night you may not talk to anyone, otherwise you may be killed by an act of nature. Damn you mother Earth! 

You are a vanilla townie. You win when all anti-town players are killed. 

Confirm by return PM 


Mini 852

You are the orange crayon. Someone killed your best friend, Totally Awesome Dude. Together with your spouse, Josh Lyman, you must make the killer pay. Everyday, you may participate in voting on who is the killer(s). At night you may talk only to your lover, otherwise you may be killed by an act of nature. Damn you mother Earth! If your lover dies, the following night or day phase, you will commit suicide. 

You are a Lover. You win when all anti-town players are killed. 

Confirm by return PM 

Mini 852

Mod Note: If the one lover is NK'd, the other will commit suicide at the beginning of the day

You are the green crayon. Someone killed your best friend, Totally Awesome Dude. You must find out who and make them pay. Everyday, you may participate in voting on who is the killer(s). At night you may not talk to anyone, otherwise you may be killed by an act of nature. Damn you mother Earth! 

You are a vanilla townie. You win when all anti-town players are killed. 

Confirm by return PM 

Mini 852

You are the olive crayon. Someone killed your best friend, Totally Awesome Dude. You must find out who and make them pay. Everyday, you may participate in voting on who is the killer(s). At night you may not talk to anyone, otherwise you may be killed by an act of nature. Damn you mother Earth! At night, you may choose a target to kill. You can only do this once, so be wary. 

You are a 1-shot vig. You win when all anti-town players are killed. 

Confirm by return PM 


Mini 852

Mod Note: May target any living player. If target is also targeted by the SK, the ability will still be used. If the player targets the SK, the ability is used.

You are the brown crayon. Last night, you killed your best friend Totally Awesome Dude. Well, ex-best friend. It turns out, he was EVERYONE's best friend. When you were drunk with him the previous night, he confessed this and in a fit of rage, you killed him. Now, you plan on killing on all of his “best friends” as well. They should suffer, the same way Totally Awesome Dude made you suffer. Everyday, you may participate in voting on who is the killer(s). At night you may not talk to anyone, otherwise you may be killed by an act of nature. Damn you mother Earth! Once per night, you may choose a target to kill. You may chose not to kill, but never on two consecutive nights. 

Bonus ability: You have a 1-shot bulletproof ability 

You are a SK. You win when all other players are killed. 

Confirm by return PM 

Mini 852

You are the cyan crayon. Someone killed your best friend, Totally Awesome Dude. You must find out who and make them pay. Everyday, you may participate in voting on who is the killer(s). At night you may not talk to anyone, otherwise you may be killed by an act of nature. Damn you mother Earth! At night, you may choose a target to investigate. Your sanity is not guaranteed. 

You are a cop. You win when all anti-town players are killed. 

Confirm by return PM 


Mini 852

Mod Note: Results are paranoid

You are the blue crayon. Someone killed your best friend, Totally Awesome Dude. You just can't take this loss, so you try to commit suicide. But alas, you don't have the heart to do it yourself. So, you must get the town to lynch you. Everyday, you may participate in voting on who is the killer(s). At night you may not talk to anyone, otherwise you may be killed by an act of nature. Damn you mother Earth! At night, you may choose a target to investigate. Your sanity is not guaranteed. 

You are a jester. You win when you get lynched. 

Confirm by return PM 


Mini 852

Mod Note: Results are Paranoid

You are the yellow crayon. Someone killed your best friend, Totally Awesome Dude. You must find out who and make them pay. Everyday, you may participate in voting on who is the killer(s). At night you may not talk to anyone, otherwise you may be killed by an act of nature. Damn you mother Earth! 

You are a vanilla townie. You win when all anti-town players are killed. 

Confirm by return PM 

Mini 852

You are the dark blue crayon. Someone killed your best friend, Totally Awesome Dude. You must find out who and make them pay. Everyday, you may participate in voting on who is the killer(s). At night you may not talk to anyone, otherwise you may be killed by an act of nature. Damn you mother Earth! 

You are a vanilla townie. You win when all anti-town players are killed. 

Confirm by return PM 

Mini 852

You are the Indigo crayon. Someone killed your best friend, Totally Awesome Dude. You must find out who and make them pay. Everyday, you may participate in voting on who is the killer(s). At night you may not talk to anyone, otherwise you may be killed by an act of nature. Damn you mother Earth! 

You are a vanilla townie. You win when all anti-town players are killed. 

Confirm by return PM 

Mini 852

You are the violet crayon. Someone killed your best friend, Totally Awesome Dude. You must find out who and make them pay. Everyday, you may participate in voting on who is the killer(s). At night you may not talk to anyone, otherwise you may be killed by an act of nature. Damn you mother Earth! 

You are a vanilla townie. You win when all anti-town players are killed. 

Confirm by return PM 

Mini 852

You are the Dark Red crayon. Someone killed your best friend, Totally Awesome Dude. Together with your spouse, Sociopath, you must make the killer pay. Everyday, you may participate in voting on who is the killer(s). At night you may talk only to your lover, otherwise you may be killed by an act of nature. Damn you mother Earth! If your lover dies, the following night or day phase, you will commit suicide. 

You are a Lover. You win when all anti-town players are killed. 

Confirm by return PM 

Mini 852

Mod Note: If the one lover is NK'd, the other will commit suicide at the beginning of the day

[Battousai]

This game was to be run as an experiment of sorts. I was trying to find a way to balance a 12-player game with a lone SK only. Every town powerrole was mostly used to help the SK. The cop was tricky, as it could either count as a win, 1 mislynch, or 2 mislynches. If the cop investigated the SK, and decided to claim, the SK would probably lose without a decent claim. If the cop claims after D1 after investigating anyone else, they would either get the target lynched and/or themselves. Determining how many built in mislynches was a hassle, as I only got my game reviewed, without checking to see what others have done in this kind of setup. The SK has the basic disadvantage of a SK, and the town has the whole "looking for connections" going against it, which was another variable.

The Jester role, was a mistake. I created the pm by copying the previous pm I made and edited it. I missed the investigating part when I edited it, so the Jester also had the ability to investigate.

I believe Pome did a very good job as the lone SK. I think her biggest mistake was going with the doc claim. I think that helped convince the others that she was lying, as that was the only powerrole that helped the town more than it hurt.

Oh, and here is the link to the green room.

http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/cDtX7JF4KhBG

[Pomegranate]

An order of events backward- how I remember them...

I know I made no sense at the end; I realized last night as I was falling asleep. It didn't worry me much anyway as I knew I was going to be lynched.

This was only my second game as scum, and the first one only lasted two weeks. Fakeclaiming was risky and fun- I knew claiming VT wouldn't get me anywhere.

N2 I just forgot to send in a kill. I was kind of thinking the way I do as a townie [When will night end... the suspense], but I was mostly ignoring it. Afterwards I PMed Battousai asking if te Zazie kill was mine (it was randomized) but he said that he couldn't tell me.

I laughed so hard at this:

I pretty much agree that Pome is the play today too. The other roles suggest that a lone scum is possible, given that they provide every advantage to the scum, rather than help town.

But wait I just thought of something. The N2 kill with only one death, and yankee said he killed zazie.

Either Pome would have had to kill zazie too or Pome decided to no-kill to help her fake a doc claim.

If Pome decided to no-kill and woke up to find someone dead, she must have been seriously like WTF!!!!!

N1 I wanted to kill EK because I knew she was a good player, but I got really annoyed when she replaced back in. Later, once day had started, Battousai PMed me asking whether I had wanted to kill the role or the player, but it was too late.

I think the game was hard for me because I couldn't depend on Mafia kills in order to whittle down town's numbers. By D3 I knew I was the only scum in the game. I really enjoyed the game.

[Pomegranate]

This game was to be run as an experiment of sorts. I was trying to find a way to balance a 12-player game with a lone SK only. Every town powerrole was mostly used to help the SK. The cop was tricky, as it could either count as a win, 1 mislynch, or 2 mislynches. If the cop investigated the SK, and decided to claim, the SK would probably lose without a decent claim. If the cop claims after D1 after investigating anyone else, they would either get the target lynched and/or themselves. Determining how many built in mislynches was a hassle, as I only got my game reviewed, without checking to see what others have done in this kind of setup. The SK has the basic disadvantage of a SK, and the town has the whole "looking for connections" going against it, which was another variable.

Yeah, I do think the game was balanced well enough. Thanks Battousai!

[SocioPath]

Lone scum means my insanity wasn't unfounded. XD

ORANGE ORANGE ORANGE.

[Pomegranate]

I think I would've died anyway, as I had three votes, the majority.

Under majority deadline lynches suck.

It takes 4 to lynch.

But I was right anyway- at deadline the person with the most votes is lynched, even if it's not a majority.

[Jahudo]

I'd say the setup was balanced alright but once we massclaimed there were a few assumptions we could make and feel really good about, like an SK not being a lover.

I think Pome played really well when being under pressure. I like how she didn't get over-defensive in her tone or posting frequency. It made me second guess my read a few times today even though I didn't share those feelings.

And I expected more pressure on me for replacing a guy who did nothing, but I can't complain. I understand Chibo's concern about me and I believed his role from the way he handled day 2 in getting a guilty.

[SocioPath]

I think I would've died anyway, as I had three votes, the majority.

Under majority deadline lynches suck.

It takes 4 to lynch.

But I was right anyway- at deadline the person with the most votes is lynched, even if it's not a majority.

What I was saying, is I don't like lynches going through with less than the majority of people voting. Towns should never have an under-majority deadline lynch. My point was 4 was the number to lynch, and 4 is the number that we should strive for before deadline.

Hence the "Under majority deadline lynches suck." So I made it NOT an under majority deadline lynch by hammering.

[Pomegranate]

I think I would've died anyway, as I had three votes, the majority.

Under majority deadline lynches suck.

It takes 4 to lynch.

But I was right anyway- at deadline the person with the most votes is lynched, even if it's not a majority.

What I was saying, is I don't like lynches going through with less than the majority of people voting. Towns should never have an under-majority deadline lynch. My point was 4 was the number to lynch, and 4 is the number that we should strive for before deadline.

Hence the "Under majority deadline lynches suck." So I made it NOT an under majority deadline lynch by hammering.

No, you didn't change the number of votes. You voted eight minutes after deadline, and therefore your vote didn't change anything.

[Kirbyoshi]

This game was FUUUUUNNNNN. Clever setup, Batt, and I think it was balanced enough, with the Paranoid Cop and the Lovers, the 1-Shot Vig being used on a town player, and the Jester basically giving scum a free NK, since SOG played a good Jester. I actually just thought of something else: how sure were we of Pom's "Doc" efficacy? I mean, couldn't she conceivably have been an imperfect Doc, which would have fit with all the other roles? Not that it matters now, of course.

P.S.: I'm glad my theory was right; her official role was SK

[ChiboSempai]

Very fun game. First time being a cop with skewed results, I completely forgot about the possibility of paranoid or insane when the game started (since I've never been in a game with them or as one) hence how I acted Day 2.

My theory on Jahudo really only worked if there was a mafia that was at least 2 people. I didn't really know what to think after the point of a SK came up hence why I didn't post as much.

Very nice everyone.

[elvis_knits]

Good game everyone, and thanks to Batt for modding! The setup was a fun puzzle to solve.

Pome, you did a good job and didn't panic! I think it was the claim that caught you in the end, but that's always the gamble as scum.

lol @ me and socio being so suspicious of each other.

[semioldguy]

I had fun!

I also had fun as a spectator after day one.

[Pomegranate]

I knew panicking wouldn't help any; it would only bring my inevitable lynch closer.

The claim

was

the problem- without it I'd have done better.

[Pomegranate]

I saw this in another thread while playing this game and noted it:

Based on the role by itself, SK probably would have to be one of the hardest, followed by any other third-party role just about.

[Nachomamma8]

Good job Pome and good job Pome. It was definitely an awesome setup Bat, and you confused me with having a lone SK until the end