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Post Post #1375 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:19 am

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Magnus wrote:Me. What was so bad about that?
Both of those questions share one thing. Now assuming we kill the most town sided role (Since mafia has nothing to gain fom killing a NK immune townie and my role+chacos aren't really good targets)

If whoever we say we'd choose is town sided, it tells scum who's townish and gives them good choces on who to kill.
If whoever we chose is scum then it gives them some WIFOM to hide behind if someone askes them why the most helpful, town like player is still alive.

This question helps scum WAY more than scum and I refuse ro answer it. How does the question help determine alignment anyway?
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Post Post #1376 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:22 am

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Note: It also prevents us from picking the same person or from them using some sort of scum power role. In fact, due to the extension....

Unvote, vote: Magnus_Orion


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Post Post #1377 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:28 am

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Netopalis wrote:I seriously doubt that you would be the NK, MO. I'm still not sure what you're getting at. Judging my reactions through who I want to vig? That seems rather contrived. Can't you just look at it after I act?
That isn't what I said, now is it?
What I said was "if you were a serial killer". Who you would vig has nothing to do with it.

Also, it isn't so much the "who" as the "why".

Also I say I'd be nked because I think I'm right about who the scum are, and I think that scum also wouldn't want me throwing such questions around.
Both of those questions share one thing. Now assuming we kill the most town sided role (Since mafia has nothing to gain fom killing a NK immune townie and my role+chacos aren't really good targets)

If whoever we say we'd choose is town sided, it tells scum who's townish and gives them good choces on who to kill.
If whoever we chose is scum then it gives them some WIFOM to hide behind if someone askes them why the most helpful, town like player is still alive.

This question helps scum WAY more than scum and I refuse ro answer it. How does the question help determine alignment anyway?
.......
So, you're proceeding under the assumption that scum can't tell who is pro-town? Why would you make such an assumption? On what grounds can you make it?

I'm confused how this question helps scum. Also, telling you how this helps to determine alignment would defeat the purpose of doing it, now wouldn't it. If the results don't turn up anything, you can lynch me, right?


I mean, let's look at this objectively.
Let's say this is some ploy to get information on who to night kill. Then, this line of questioning should turn out to be completely pointless. If this line of questioning turns out to be completely pointless, you can lynch me. You have nothing to lose by seeing my questions through to the end. In fact, if your suspicions are justified, you'll have found scum, correct?
Note: It also prevents us from picking the same person or from them using some sort of scum power role. In fact, due to the extension....
It does what now?
Explain.
Something doesn't feel right. Something doesn't feel right at all. I'll try to put a finger on it later today.
I suggest proceeding to try to put your finger on why its unusual before jumping to the conclusion that the reason must be scummy. Also, I find it interesting how little faith you had in your previous suspect to change it upon the first sign of something blatantly unusual.


*sigh* This isn't exactly what I had in mind. I'd prefer it if people actually answered my questions. Obviously revealing my agenda before hand defeats the entire purpose. But the question has to be answered before I reveal why I asked it.
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Post Post #1378 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 6:35 am

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Also, as an afterthought, how is this question any worse than stating who you have town reads on?
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Post Post #1379 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:03 am

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Hmm....I see. Sorry, I had misunderstood you to mean that you wanted to know who I was vigging like so many other people. I guess it's what I get for reading too quickly. I'm still not entirely sure that I like the question....But I guess I'll answer. That being said, don't run crying to me if/when that player ends up dying tonight.

I'd probably say ForbiddanLight, as he's the only player that I don't see as a likely lynch tomorrow.
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Post Post #1380 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:07 am

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I'd probably say ForbiddanLight, as she's the only player that I don't see as a likely lynch tomorrow.
Fixed for you.

I don't see any Major claims, btw?

I'm using my ability before this day ends because I'm well aware I'm an attractive NK target at this point. As for things posted since my last post...I'll see about reading and responding to them sometime today.
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Post Post #1381 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:09 am

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FL,
Sorry about that. Also, if you're going to use your role, I'd recommend that you use it on SSK, since he's not been here and he's probably the only player that didn't see your request for claim.
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Post Post #1382 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 8:21 am

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FL,
Sorry about that. Also, if you're going to use your role, I'd recommend that you use it on SSK, since he's not been here and he's probably the only player that didn't see your request for claim.
Fair enough, I'll wait for his replacement just in case.
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Post Post #1383 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:14 am

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alright, just waiting on DB...
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Post Post #1384 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:39 am

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Magnus, for the record, I really do hope you're going somewhere with this. It seems like a bit of a goose chase to me.
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Post Post #1385 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:51 am

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@Magnus-Look, I'm fine with answering the question if you provide me with a good reason for doing it. Until then, this question pretty much IS stating who you think is town.
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Post Post #1386 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 11:57 am

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Actually you know what?

?: Doombunny


It just occured to me Integra is QUITE a valid target for a Shroedinger ability.

So, I'm targetting DB. Enjoy whatever it does :S.
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Post Post #1387 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 12:00 pm

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He gets...


A NEEEEWWW CAAAHR!
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Post Post #1388 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:20 pm

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So, uh, yeah. Who do we lynch now? I'm still in favor of Shotty, and Chaco is starting to push his way back up my list.....
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Post Post #1389 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:24 pm

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So, uh, yeah. Who do we lynch now? I'm still in favor of Shotty, and Chaco is starting to push his way back up my list.....
We can still lynch DB. I have no idea what this ability will do.
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Post Post #1390 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:26 pm

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Oh. I thought you were implying that it conferred a night ability on him. That still seems like the most logical result.
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Post Post #1391 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:28 pm

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Oh. I thought you were implying that it conferred a night ability on him. That still seems like the most logical result.
It's possible. It's just said that my ability does something, possibly powerful, if I target the right (unknown) person.

I can use it whenever I like.
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Post Post #1392 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:33 pm

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Multiple times?
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Post Post #1393 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:33 pm

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Multiple times?
One shot. I was planning on waiting longer but...yeah.
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Post Post #1394 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:37 pm

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So now we wait?
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Post Post #1395 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:38 pm

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So now we wait?
Yep. Given it's Kairyuu...

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Post Post #1396 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:40 pm

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What if you just destroyed half the time with that?
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Post Post #1397 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:40 pm

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EBWOP

half the town*
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Post Post #1398 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 1:45 pm

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Well, that'd suck, yet be incredibly awesome at the same time.

What should I have done? Heck, be glad I didn't just fire it off my first post D1.
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Post Post #1399 (ISO) » Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:02 pm

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So long as FL isn't scum, I would argue that the reaction will benefit the town unless there is some extreme bastard moddery going on here.
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