Mini 881 - Moviestar Madness - Game Over

[ortolan]

yay

my role breadcrumb is Neil Tennant

/me hugs DGB

[ortolan]

Vote: ortolan

; for thinking his/her lack of vote would go unnoticed.

I didn't think my lack of vote would go unnoticed, I just kind of didn't notice/forgot to vote in RVS/didn't care. I'm actually coming around to trying to eliminate RVSs, if only because it makes the game more interesting that way. I think there may be other game(s) recently where I haven't voted in RVS, but don't hold me to it.

DragonsofSummer is still the scummiest player in this game

Vote: DragonsofSummer

I don't particularly like the MordyS wagon, that said I'm not 100% sure about him

milkshake felt town, chiefly for 50 but some later posts had me not as sure

I'm totally on the fence about DGB

I was gonna say Iecerint was second to DragonsofSummer for scumminess but actually, looking at 18 then looking at 81 is enough for a vote.

The phrasing of 18 was one line for a serious vote, and I dislike the phrasing and justification. Subsequently he never again mentions this apparently serious vote. Now he's voting cateraction for DGB's "case" on cat even though it wasn't a case but merely an explication of her apparent scum read on him based on one comment. It also isn't a valid scumtell for me (I don't necessarily think DGB's scummy for putting it forward, but I don't think it's a valid scumtell in reality). Thus Iecerint's vote on cateraction doesn't seem to show understanding of the context of what DGB was saying, and is furthermore unmerited and opportunistic. I'm also aware there's a good possibility he can't be scum with DoS because of page one:

DoS votes Mordy > Mordy votes DoS > Iecering votes DoS

Thus

Unvote
Vote: Iecerint

[ortolan]

have a look at how many people explicitly breadcrumbed before he posted. I count one (myself). So that throws DGB's third point in 78 out the window (and that was the sole premise of the attack).

[ortolan]

There're some other odd pre-game and RVS comments that could be construed as breadcrumbs, even if they weren't as explicit as yours. You may be right that there are fewer than DGB implied, but I still prefer my current vote to my prior.

I also still prefer my current vote to my prior

[ortolan]

why are myself and Iecering adjacent to one another despite me just now laying a vote down on him

And why is tajo even dodgier than both of us despite him declaring you virtually obv-town?

I think I have to upgrade you to a scum-read, DGB.

[ortolan]

funny funny, I read your vote on him and immediately thought "distancing"....funny my dear thought so as well.......

Well, all I can say is that's...interesting, as he is metaphysically incapable of being my scumbuddy, as I am what we in the business can a town-aligned player.

Ort, you never been in a game where scum distanced

Of course I have. See Notre Dame Mafia in this same forum, for a prime example, where Kast laid down the second vote for Budja, his scumbuddy, on a successful day one wagon (Notre Dame mafia, modded by petroleumjelly, DGB was in it also). In fact I wasn't intending to use this as a "defence" at all, I am not a player concerned with defence but rather offence. It was my basis for attacking DGB.

DGB's 92 just further condemns her to the "I really, really can't read you" category.

[ortolan]

wow....I wish you'd give me something to work with, you are screaming null-tell to me so much right now it's ridiculous. I do verily agree that you read me as scum too much (and vice versa) however.

[ortolan]

if it gives you any comfort, that's probably because I thought you were really obv-town in Election Mafia but you turned out to be scum.

[ortolan]

come on DGB, you're being sloppy here

[ortolan]

I don't actually mind the Vaya wagon that much anymore, the response to DGB is too apologetic and doesn't consider whether DGB might be scum in reasoning with her. I can still kinda see Vaya playing like that as town though. I've played with Vaya in Stratego mafia where he pretty much lurked to a scum-win so I'm not going to be particularly sympathetic.

[ortolan]

I normally hate policy lynches, but this isn't really a policy lynch anyway

Unvote
Vote: Vaya

[ortolan]

Vaya, who do you find scummy?

[ortolan]

posting soon

Vaya-DGB-Iecerint scumteam looks really good from memory. Don't like DGB starting Vaya wagon then fleeing (plus Vaya wagon detracted from Iecering wagon). Really want to be lynching one of these. Anyway I'll read up to date soon.

[ortolan]

DGB going after lurkers is way too easy

I meant to say that before, I still haven't read yet

[ortolan]

rofffff, what were roles?

[ortolan]

my night one action was "alignus confusus" from harry potter. It swapped people's alignment around depending on what they started with. I didn't end up using it though.

[ortolan]

I wish I'd got to play around with some more factional abilities

I dunno if I'd wanna be reincarnated tbh, might well have just been mislynched after that. I don't know everyone found me so scummy, especially as it didn't seem to be based on my scumlist (which was terrible and completely wrong)

[ortolan]

factional abilities = game ability thingamajigs

[ortolan]

wow, really?

I thought it was fairly obscure.