Mini 861: Hellsing Mafia - (Game Over!)

[Doombunny9]

EBWOP: I don't know why I didn't have bigger text so I'll try one more time

SSK, READ MY POST ABOUT YOU. IT'S THE GIANT WALL OF TEXT. ANSWER MY QUESTIONS!

Hopefully it's fixed this time.

[Chaco]

Doom here's a bit of WIFOM for you to mull over:

Would scum act the way SSK is?

[Netopalis]

I have yet to evaluate your earlier post, but I have to say....the phrase "Here's a bit of WIFOM for you" really undermines just about anything you say after it.

[Netopalis]

Ok. I like this post a lot better, although I completely and abjectly abhor the whole "playing scummy to out scum" thing. It seems far too much like a cop out. I also don't like that your only conclusion coming out of it is, yes, once again, Doom is scum. You also accuse M_O of SK status without really backing it up.

As for my vig, I feel that this may be an attempt on the part of scum to get me to use it on a definite night. I am sure that one of two things would probably happen were I to use it tonight: either I would get roleblocked or one of the other two factions would forego a kill to frame me. Either way, an additional kill doesn't do a whole lot to confirm me. I'm sorry, I really wish it was that easy, but the game setup is designed to be tricky.

[Chaco]

Later posts will back up reasoning. In due time.

Now, here is the dilemma. I believe toNight will be the last night we have before it is indefinitely in MyLo, waiting until then is a good play if and only if we can confirm you or lynch scum. That is the only way we will be safe from your claim, at this time your claim is carrying you as town. I accept that, because your claim is fitting. However, it is a mess of something we will have to deal with at some point. Because, quite frankly NK Immune Miller Vig, could abka Godfather. A different form of your normal one, as such. But we will not delve into speculation. I think you get the point I am trying to put across.

And also, it is WIFOM. I'm not going to use it as an argument without saying that as WIFOM is very flimsy. But you still have to take it into consideration,, I often times do not as well. But in fact we do need to. The fact of the matter, well question, is: Would scum purposefully play like that?

[Netopalis]

Would SSK as scum purposefully play like that? Yes, because SSK is incapable of a higher level of play.

Alright Neto. Enough is enough. I honestly don't care whether or not SSK minds you insulting him, because I do mind. I'm stepping in right now. Take a quick look at rule 20, and then stop the ad hom right now. That goes for everyone. The next instance of blatant ad hom by anyone in the game will result in a forcible replacement.

[Chaco]

Would SSK as scum purposefully play like that? Yes, because SSK is incapable of a higher level of play.

We do not see eye to eye here then.

[Netopalis]

Really? You believe that SSK could play better? If so, that is scummy in and of itself.

[Doombunny9]

Doom here's a bit of WIFOM for you to mull over:

Would scum act the way SSK is?

You have a point here but like you say. It is just WIFOM, we can't get anything good out of it. And here's some WIFOM back at you since you seem to be so into it: If SSK played better, wouldn't he be lynched on account of meta?

Also, about the vigging. I would have to agree with Chaco. Tonight (assuming we lynch a townie. If we hit scum disregard all of this) There will be 3 townies, 2 scum (probably) and an SK. If scum and SK do not hit Scum or SK then the scum wins 2/2 which is why it would be best to shoot tonight if we hit a townie. If we hit scum or an SK however, it would be wisest to shoot at a later date.

[Netopalis]

I'm going to make a judgment call based on the flip of the lynch. Rest assured that I am more than familiar with the relevant numbers in the game.

[MafiaSSK]

EBWOP: I don't know why I didn't have bigger text so I'll try one more time

SSK, READ MY POST ABOUT YOU. IT'S THE GIANT WALL OF TEXT. ANSWER MY QUESTIONS!

Hopefully it's fixed this time.

GUESS WHAT. I DONT READ LARGE WALLS OF TEXTS. READ EVERY SINGLE EFFING GAME IM IN. I ALMOST NEVER RESPOND TO LARGE POSTS. IF YOU WANT ME TO REPSOND. CONDENSE IT DOWN TO A LIST OF TELLS. NOTHING BIG AND FANCY.

[Chaco]

Really? You believe that SSK could play better? If so, that is scummy in and of itself.

Indeed I do.

[MafiaSSK]

Really? You believe that SSK could play better? If so, that is scummy in and of itself.

How is it scummy that I'm experimenting?

[MafiaSSK]

EBWOP: Experimenting for the most part.

[MafiaSSK]

Doom here's a bit of WIFOM for you to mull over:

Would scum act the way SSK is?

You have a point here but like you say. It is just WIFOM, we can't get anything good out of it. And here's some WIFOM back at you since you seem to be so into it: If SSK played better, wouldn't he be lynched on account of meta?

Also, about the vigging. I would have to agree with Chaco. Tonight (assuming we lynch a townie. If we hit scum disregard all of this) There will be 3 townies, 2 scum (probably) and an SK. If scum and SK do not hit Scum or SK then the scum wins 2/2 which is why it would be best to shoot tonight if we hit a townie. If we hit scum or an SK however, it would be wisest to shoot at a later date.

A. Don't tell the vig or any power role what to do. IT is unsafe and can make scum framing a person really easy to do. Especially in MyLo after a massclaim and evidence like this can make scum win.

[Kairyuu]

Check post 1280 for important info.

[MafiaSSK]

I'm going to make a judgment call based on the flip of the lynch. Rest assured that I am more than familiar with the relevant numbers in the game.

How are you familiar with the relevant numbers? Are you some setup knowing town? Or are you scum who for sure knows the numbers?

[Netopalis]

The problem is that your play is deliberately anti-town.

Furthermore, I have trouble with it from an ethical perspective. Kant's Categorical Imperative provides that you should not act in such a way that you would be unhappy if everyone else acted in the same fashion. If all players played Mafia as you do, there would be no game. It would be impossible to get anything done. I find the sort of thing that I am seeing in this game to be symbolic of the downfall of society - the lazy, bring everything to me mentality that permeates all aspects of modern culture and has frozen us into a self-destructive mire of sluggishness and boredom.

Shape up. Play right. If you can play better, do so. If not, replace out.

[forbiddanlight]

Votecount goes here. Also, check post 1280 for important info.

I think Kairyuu sucks for getting all serious'd about personal attacks .

(Kidding, of course)

I've been reading along but it's mostly been the same stuff we've dealt with for the past 10 pages. I see nothing convincing me to change my vote or anything I need to respond to. If I'm incorrect, please correct me.

[Netopalis]

Ugh. I posted before I read the mod's note. My apologies.

[Netopalis]

Actually, looks like a massive rain of simulposting.

[Netopalis]

Well, regardless, SSK, I apologize. I suppose I probably did cross over a line. I still would really appreciate it if you could devote the time to this game that the rest of us do, but I guess we can just lynch you if you won't.

[Chaco]

I apologize for butting heads with you as well Neto.

[MafiaSSK]

Mod, I think I will sadly replace out.

In spirit of the game. I'm making the game unfun for other players and blech. I'm not playing my best.

[Chaco]

Mod:

Upon replacement, request deadline extension.