Open 172 - Mini Love - GAME OVER!

[Head_Honcho]

Vino, what is your take on this? Would you agree that you are basically confirmed scum at this point?

VOTE COUNT

Snow_Bunny (3): Netlava, Kirbyoshi, Yankee
Kirbyoshi (3): dramonic, Head_Honcho, Snow_Bunny

Not Voting (2): Nikanor, Vino

With 8 Alive, 5 is needed to lynch.
3 is needed to lynch at deadline.

[Vino]

I really don't see how you can arrive at that conclusion. You haven't had a logical argument towards my scumminess a single time in this game. Your entire strategy has been to call me scum multiple times to see if you can provoke a reaction for your scum-o-scale. If you weren't confirmed town I would vote you for that. I really wish I could make a counter-argument, but I don't have anything to argue against other than "Hey everybody Vino is scum." Would you mind stating exactly what "Negative Vibration" I've been throwing off that tells you I'm scum?

As for my take on this, I thought Snow was the obvious choice before the last page or two, but as previously observed by others Kirby has been acting strange under the circumstances, so I'm reserving my judgment for now.

[Kirbyoshi]

I agree with Vino's first paragraph. I haven't seen any evidence for me to think he's scum. However, I am 100% sure Snow is scum, and I still believe Netlava is her buddy.

Kirby has been acting strange under the circumstances,

Snow's fakeclaim really caught me off-guard. I don't see what she has to gain by that, other than maybe mislynching me. Like I said, town's in a good position right now, so if I have to be lynched in order to prove I'm telling the truth, do it.

[Netlava]

It's simply not worth it for scum to counterclaim in this situation.

[Nikanor]

It's simply not worth it for scum to counterclaim in this situation.

Wrong. If you had counterclaimed Snow and were acting like Kirby is right now, my vote would have been on you a long time ago, because you are most likely going to die anyway, so you could have at least spent your life trying to get the doc lynched. (This assumes a Netlava scum, Snow doc hypothetical situation).

On an unrelated note, I really wish our day two had been longer so that I could have seen if Snow would have voted me or not.
TOO BAD A SHORT DAY WAS UNAVOIDABLE!
*cough*

[Snow_Bunny]

In this game scum counterclaimed me when I claimed cop. Scum can benefit from the counterclaim, as it can possibly lead to town lynching the doc, and thus gaining an advantage.

Regarding the protection on N2, I think that is all nulltell. I myself thought that mafia would try to hit the lovers that night.

Kirby appealing to emotion with the "first time with a pr" doesn't look good, in the other hand. Oddly enough, since he counterclaimed and the pressure fell on him he's starting to act different. Before that, I thought Kirby was town. But now (and without taking into account the scummy cc), he looks really scummy.

But again, it's not up to me to decide. I know he's scum. It's up to you guys to see who you are going to lynch.

[Kirbyoshi]

Look at Snow's D1 posts.

Any roads, dramonic's looking scummy to me. Also, his three votes really don't have a reason. After further investigation, Nik's also looking scummy. Maybe a dram-nik scum team.

What's with you and remembering things? If you have something to say, say it now. Keeping info from town is not good. I still don't get what's this relationship you want to build between Yankee and me.

Geez, you are tunneling me without any real bases on it. Distancing? Where? When? How? Voting for me because I voted for someone else when that person seems scummy? That's like the lamest reason ever! Scum trying to frame me, not good.

Unvote, vote: Nikanor

*snip* Nikanor, however, with his tunel-vision and constant baseless attacks on me, deserve a vote. Trying an early myslynch? Won't work.

Scummy people
Nikanor - Yankee (this is a tie)
Khamisa
Looker
dramonic

I'm totally believe that either Yankee or Nikanor are scum (or well, the both of them). *snip* Nikanor with his vote-jumping, lame reasons behind votes (really? That vote on Vino was just... wordless), and overall scummy play is also another great lynch.

I can easily see a Nik-Kham-Yankee team, with some busing.

Yankee and Nik are very scummy, and either one of them should die today.

In fact, I think Nik just crossed the line. *snip* I think Nik is shielding in the two claimed lovers as to protect himself for the time being. He doesn't want to claim as he can be easily counterclaimed by another person (unless he claim VT, which still doesn't help his case).

Unvote. Vote: Nikanor

Come on, we need to lynch the scum.

With her expressing suspicion of Nik all Day long, why would she protect him?

[Nikanor]

Kirby appealing to emotion with the "first time with a pr" doesn't look good, in the other hand.

It's called 'playing the newbcard.'

In this game scum counterclaimed me when I claimed cop. Scum can benefit from the counterclaim, as it can possibly lead to town lynching the doc, and thus gaining an advantage.

That doesn't really apply here. Netopalis had no choice but to counterclaim cop, since he was screwed anyway. I think that in this situation, Kirby could have easily lasted until endgame without doing anything, as nobody was suspicious of him.

Why would I say I protected the same person twice in a row if it weren't true? Scum would obvknow the N1 target, and that's why we both claimed to protect Nik N1. But focus on the N2 target. Which one is more likely to be faked: the easy-to-analyze protection, or the one who claims to be newbdoc? I think it's pretty obvious.

That's called the Too Scummy falllacy.

[Yankee]

Lynch Snowbunny, thats all I have to say : P

If we lynch the doc now, we are going to lose 3 townies to get 1 scum. The doc today, whoever tonight, scum tomorrow, then another townie the next night. Not worth it in my opinion, and i firmly believe Snow is the scum, she was felt so strongly about Kirby being scum for Counter Claiming yet it somehow managed to slip her mind to even vote for him!?!?! This is not something a townie would do, if you KNOW someone is scum, 100% sure, you are GOING TO VOTE FOR THEM! It wont "slip your mind". I think it slipped her mind because she was too preoccupied trying to convince people to vote for kirby instead of voting herself. Think about it, if you are a doctor and someone counterclaims you, are you going to forget to vote for them? Also i find it suspicious how she "Unvotes" whenever she finally does decide to vote even though she had not previously voted. This further proves that she is not paying attention to what is going on, a scumtell to me....

[Yankee]

el oh el, nevermind about that unvote thing, i just now re-read and she was voting for Netlava before. I thought i had made a mental note of that, but it must have been from another game.... (so much for not paying attention...) But the rest of my statement still stands.

[Netlava]

Well, kirby wasn't close to getting lynched. So, it's pretty pointless for him to counterclaim as scum.

[Nikanor]

Well, kirby wasn't close to getting lynched. So, it's pretty pointless for him to counterclaim as scum.

Yup, that's what I'm thinking.
I guess I have all I want from Snow_Bunny.

Vote: Snow_Bunny.

[Yankee]

Come on HH, you can do it! we need tha hamma!

[Nikanor]

YET AGAIN, I am refused my hammer. Oh well.

[Yankee]

lol... you crack me up sometimes Nik.... But seriously, only person left not voting is Vino, and HH is the only person that i know is town that can hammer. I am finding it more suspicious of Dramonic to not vote for Snowbunny. If Snow bunny flips scum, we should be considering Dramonic next. (even if he switches votes after this post, because that would be meaningless, his vote has rested on Kirby long enough for me to get a read of snow's buddy)

[Nikanor]

If no counterclaim occurs we're in a pretty good situation.

Scum is either me, netlava, kirbyoshi or Vino.

Can we lynch obvscum netlava now?

This is the post directly following Snow_Bunny's claim. Notice the lack of unvote.

[Yankee]

so you are agreeing with me or disagreeing with me? Im not sure what you mean by that. Sorry Nik

[Nikanor]

Lol, I'm agreeing that dramonic is probably scum.

[Yankee]

ah, i just went and re-read that post and noticed he was voting Snow_Bunny at L-1 saying they should vote Netlava. This is just weird to me, so i agree....

[Nikanor]

Man, I love quality time with Yankee. <3

[Yankee]

yeah, i wonder if HH is gonna get jealous *looks around nervously* It is kinda awesome to always be on at the same time as you. I definitely want to play with you again sometime. When you go to sign up for a new game, send me a PM please

[Head_Honcho]

once you poppp

unvote vote: snowbunny

[dramonic]

lol... you crack me up sometimes Nik.... But seriously, only person left not voting is Vino, and HH is the only person that i know is town that can hammer. I am finding it more suspicious of Dramonic to not vote for Snowbunny. If Snow bunny flips scum, we should be considering Dramonic next. (even if he switches votes after this post, because that would be meaningless, his vote has rested on Kirby long enough for me to get a read of snow's buddy)

Here we have a post about me not voting bunny girl

If no counterclaim occurs we're in a pretty good situation.

Scum is either me, netlava, kirbyoshi or Vino.

Can we lynch obvscum netlava now?

This is the post directly following Snow_Bunny's claim. Notice the lack of unvote.

Here we have a post about me not unvoting bunny girl


Points to whoever can explain why post 2 is supposed to reinforce post 1 XD

[Kirbyoshi]

Perhaps same reason Snow didn't unvote when I CC'ed?

[Snow_Bunny]

Well, at least this game will work for future reference when scum cc and beat town on it.

Go town!