Oh the irony.WarWound wrote:ive been saying zwet hasnt been doing crap all game... or for most of it...Toro wrote:Rolling with the bandwagon when not doing much scumhunting, hmm, more scumpoints on you.WarWound wrote:a policy lynch does seem to be in orderunvote: vote Zwet
Policy lynch is getting someone who is SO anti-town, or is so abbrasive that you do not want to play with them. To such an extent that if they dont get policy lynched, you strongly debate replacing out.yabbaguy wrote:Policy lynch is another word entirely, btw.
Here's the thing. As mentioned above, just because a fellow wastes time in the same way each game, that doesn't mean that he's automatically the same sort of role. If the guy's going to confuse the issue of voting for Mafia by making vaguely suspicious statements, then he's obstructing progress anyway, no matter what he is.Col.Cathart wrote:Blast: It's interesting though, how you jumped 12KB wagon when it had already some people on it, for pretty weak reason, and now you jumped on zwet wagon, for reasons, because he plays like typical zwet (Here you have an example. He behaved exactly the same with 'why is xxx still alive' etc. etc. and he was a Doc), and not because of, for example, his slip, which SpyreX already covered with details.
Also, does anyone else looks suspicious to you?
I can't wait to hear what got you to this, what specifically allowed you to differentiate between anti town and scum here yabba? Was it because he was voting you?yabbaguy wrote:Lack of defense is scummy.Because I'm not. And you made a very scummy vote.
Unvote, Vote: zwetschenwasser
I'm completely satisfied now.
So why are we lynching him if it's not a good idea???Iguana wrote:Allow me to just speculate and elaborate on where you seem to be headed. Zwet is always useless/scummy. Due to that, he should never be lynched because statistically he is more likely to be town. I would actually argue someone who is ALWAYS dead weight and inherantly scummy should be policy lynched, and will explain why if you want me to.skitzer wrote:Can someone tell me how the zwet in this game is different from the zwet in every other game? Maybe then I'll consider a vote.
So people voting me... is there anything I havent responded to? As far as I can tell, im being voted on WIFOM, ??? and something I defended against (and apparently was accepted?)
Can you tell me why you were confused over Iguana's role?Pomegranate wrote:I don't like the Wifom more than I did before, but I'm not as bothered by Iguana, and I don't think we'll get any farther.
If he's scum, lynching him would accomplish quite a bit.Blastinus wrote: But, like I said, he's vanished, so I don't think that voting for him would accomplish much anyway, whether or not he is scum.
From what I've seen, this is a typical Zwetdefense. He didn't elaborate, but he answered what you asked him. He says he hasn't contradicted himself, which I agree with. And he says your previous vote was scummy, which I don't necessarily agree with, but Zwet looks like he's trying here. I don't think he's scum.yabbaguy wrote:Lack of defense is scummy.Because I'm not. And you made a very scummy vote.
Unvote, Vote: zwetschenwasser
I'm completely satisfied now.
Really? I thought it meant lynching a player who is so detrimental to the town regardless of alignment that you don't want them around in a possible LYLO/late-game situation.Iguana wrote: Policy lynch is getting someone who is SO anti-town, or is so abbrasive that you do not want to play with them. To such an extent that if they dont get policy lynched, you strongly debate replacing out.
no no no... thats what YOU seem to be saying. Not me. You are starting to wander down the "he is always scummy, lets not lynch" path. I am trying to point out that massive pit filled with spikes, those creapy yellow spiders, and tiny yappy worthless dogs that you are going to fall into if you go much farther.skitzer wrote:So why are we lynching him if it's not a good idea???Iguana wrote:Allow me to just speculate and elaborate on where you seem to be headed. Zwet is always useless/scummy. Due to that, he should never be lynched because statistically he is more likely to be town. I would actually argue someone who is ALWAYS dead weight and inherantly scummy should be policy lynched, and will explain why if you want me to.skitzer wrote:Can someone tell me how the zwet in this game is different from the zwet in every other game? Maybe then I'll consider a vote.
Regardless of alignment? I'd totally agree with the general format of this hypothesis in general if he flips town, but it starts to get screwed up if we're right and he flips scum and SK since the former you're really looking for distancing cases and SK, well, you can't say they weren't scumhunting. I can elaborate further on that if you're not convinced.1-2 players voting Zwet are scum. (Iguana, Spy, Pom, Blast, War, Yabba). In order of liklieness: Pom, Yabba, Spy, War, Iguana, Blast.
If you could manipulate town into lynching scum, you wouldn't do it? I would.Yabba wrote:Not the town's job to manipulate town.
Did you miss the part where I think Zwet is town? If he's scum, the point is lessened (although when Zwet is scum, he's likely to be bussed). If he's SK, nobody knows that yet. Scum can get away with a weak vote on him either way, so the wagon can be treated the same as if he's town.Yabba wrote:Regardless of alignment?
Your overall play isn't necessarily scummy. I just strongly suspect that 1-2 scum are on the wagon. Pom is obviously listed before you and I have strong town reads on Blast and Iguana. Basically, take it to mean you are scummier than Spy and if Pom is town, you need a closer look. I'm not about to go "Let's lynch Yabba ASAP!!", but if people head that way, I'd be quicker to deadline-compromise on you than I would on other options (Zwet, Iguana, anyone else who might be wagoned that I don't think is scum).Yabba wrote:Do you actually think I'm scummy Flave, or is this merely comparative? I haven't seen *any* mention to you calling me scum.
The following need to change their vote in their next post:semioldguy wrote: 8. If there is not a player with more than 50% of the vote at deadline, the day will end in NO LYNCH.
Well, as Wifom is usually confusing...Flava Flave wrote:Can you tell me why you were confused over Iguana's role?Pomegranate wrote:I don't like the Wifom more than I did before, but I'm not as bothered by Iguana, and I don't think we'll get any farther.
WHY DOES TOWN CARE IF IGUANA IS A VANILLA OR A POWER ROLE?Pomegranate wrote:Well, as Wifom is usually confusing...Flava Flave wrote:Can you tell me why you were confused over Iguana's role?Pomegranate wrote:I don't like the Wifom more than I did before, but I'm not as bothered by Iguana, and I don't think we'll get any farther.
She's insinuating that she could be a PR, trying to pull in NAs, but that she could be a VT attempting to pull in abilities to avert them from real PRs.
But she could still be scum attempting to confuse people/cause people to think that she is either a VT or PR, one or the other.
We care if she's scum. Look at the last line of my post.Flava Flave wrote:WHY DOES TOWN CARE IF IGUANA IS A VANILLA OR A POWER ROLE?Pomegranate wrote:Well, as Wifom is usually confusing...Flava Flave wrote:Can you tell me why you were confused over Iguana's role?Pomegranate wrote:I don't like the Wifom more than I did before, but I'm not as bothered by Iguana, and I don't think we'll get any farther.
She's insinuating that she could be a PR, trying to pull in NAs, but that she could be a VT attempting to pull in abilities to avert them from real PRs.
But she could still be scum attempting to confuse people/cause people to think that she is either a VT or PR, one or the other.
Read what I bolded in your post that I have quoted and answer the question in my last post.Pomegranate wrote:We care if she's scum. Look at the last line of my post.Flava Flave wrote:WHY DOES TOWN CARE IF IGUANA IS A VANILLA OR A POWER ROLE?Pomegranate wrote:Well, as Wifom is usually confusing...Flava Flave wrote:Can you tell me why you were confused over Iguana's role?Pomegranate wrote:I don't like the Wifom more than I did before, but I'm not as bothered by Iguana, and I don't think we'll get any farther.
She's insinuating that she could be a PR, trying to pull in NAs, but that she could be a VT attempting to pull in abilities to avert them from real PRs.
But she could still be scumattempting to confuse people/cause people to think that she is either a VT or PR, one or the other.
We care if she's scum, attempting to look like a townie with "pro-town" Wifom (doesn't matter if it's VT or PR).Flava Flave wrote:Read what I bolded in your post that I have quoted and answer the question in my last post.Pomegranate wrote:We care if she's scum. Look at the last line of my post.Flava Flave wrote:WHY DOES TOWN CARE IF IGUANA IS A VANILLA OR A POWER ROLE?Pomegranate wrote:Well, as Wifom is usually confusing...Flava Flave wrote:Can you tell me why you were confused over Iguana's role?Pomegranate wrote:I don't like the Wifom more than I did before, but I'm not as bothered by Iguana, and I don't think we'll get any farther.
She's insinuating that she could be a PR, trying to pull in NAs, but that she could be a VT attempting to pull in abilities to avert them from real PRs.
But she could still be scumattempting to confuse people/cause people to think that she is either a VT or PR, one or the other.
