Mini 852- Crayola Catastrophe Game Over (Post 1158)

[Nachomamma8]

How does a Jester hurt the mafia? A jester, if the jester plays correctly, causes a mislynch for town and gives the mafia a free kill.

[Pomegranate]

^^^QFT, I don't see how a jester hinders scum.


Today I'd be fine lynching (in order of preference):
Chibo
Yankee

And I'm happy that Jahudo is posting something. I'd like to see what he has to say about D2, as well as the current goings-on.

[Jahudo]

I am all caught up in the game. My top suspect is Pomegranate, and an organized case is coming next. Chibo is my number two suspect, although I am still considering the claim because it does account for his play so far.


ChiboSempai
* Post 701 It looks like he’s misrepresenting Nacho’s case against him by leveling the Shanba votes as equal, when they were not. His counter-attack on Nacho looks like its trying to make Nacho realize he’s the scum, but its clearly there to make us realize that Nacho is the scum. But Chibo uses a false dilemma because we don’t know that Chibo is town. Its natural to look on a mislynch wagon for scum, because scum want to lynch townies. The key is in the way people look at mislynch voters, and why, not the fact that they do.

I want to see if Chibo is still sticking to this defense / counter-attack because we know why he was tunnelvisioning now, but Day 2 even he should know that it looked obvious he wasn’t VT and could understand the suspicious he got.

And since he got a guilty on Nacho, and was suspecting Nacho today, does that mean he is confident that he’s a paranoid cop?

* Post 835 Looks like a piggyback on the Kirby case. I don’t like his excuse that he ignored it the first time around because he didn’t know what to make of it, while also saying that he never did like it. If he never did like it, then he was withholding cases and that is incredibly anti-town.


Pomegranate
* Post 734 lacks research and is either a show of unreasoned conviction or overeager opportunism. She thinks that Chibo-scum could have tunnelvisioned Shanba to avoid the lynch of his scumbuddy Budja/Yankee. This makes no sense because Chibo made that commitment to Shanba far earlier than Budja became a viable lynch target.

She also isn’t paying attention to the players in the game, because she was apparently prodding me to post a couple days before I joined the game:

GreenDude- We really need to hear more from his replacement, as he's been mega-lurking.

At first I thought she was talking about GreenDude lurking, but it clearly looks to me like the subject of that sentence is “his replacement.”

Pome also gives blanket reads on Yankee/Budja based on her feeling, that they didn’t do anything. That should be easy to prove, but she shows no effort to read the game and see for sure. I do not think she is reading the game, because time and again we see her rehashing points that other people made before her. I’ll give as many examples of this as I can, because she is my top suspect right now.


@Kirbyoshi
* Post 710 – What do you mean by

looking at the NK history, including last Night, it seems we have expert scum on our hands.

Last night’s kill is answered for us, but what are you trying to say with “expert scum”?


SocioPath
* Posts 764 and 771 – I like that Socio takes a stand against the setup speculation about the drunk. It was sidetracking the group away from scumhunting, and instead of allowing it to stall the game I think he does a pro-town action by voting.

I can see where the newer players might get too focused on roles. I feel that e_k should have read the flavor as just flavor, but I think I’ve only played hydra games with her so I don’t have any meta.

[Jahudo]

And I'm happy that Jahudo is posting something. I'd like to see what he has to say about D2, as well as the current goings-on.

That would be post 890. Did you miss it? It was a pretty long post.

[SocioPath]

And I'm happy that Jahudo is posting something. I'd like to see what he has to say about D2, as well as the current goings-on.

Ridiculous.

Unvote

Vote: Pomegranate

Happy Halloween.

[Nachomamma8]

Happy Halloween, indeed.

Socio, is that the only reason for your vote?

[Kirbyoshi]

Socio, why are you just throwing your vote around? That, in addition to you making up a non-existent case on me, and just you acting totally odd all Day, make me wonder if I should...ya, I will.

Unvote Jahudo
Vote: SocioPath

[SocioPath]

Socio, is that the only reason for your vote?

Shu Dup.
Its Halloween.
I''m Orange.

Kirby is obv buddy of Pom.

[Yankee]

Jahudo brings up some very intriguing points against Pome. Up until this point Pome has just been someone i had almost forgotten about in the background of players. Thanks for bringing up these points on her, even if i could hardly read them xD

And HAPPY HALLOWEEN EVERYONE!!! *wishes his color was orange*

[Yankee]

Also for Juhudo, who would be your second pick after Pome, and what is your reasoning. Just curious If you find my suspect suspicious as well.

[Nachomamma8]

Socio, is that the only reason for your vote?

Shu Dup.
Its Halloween.
I''m Orange.

Kirby is obv buddy of Pom.

You never actually answered my question...

[Jahudo]

Also for Juhudo, who would be your second pick after Pome, and what is your reasoning. Just curious If you find my suspect suspicious as well.

Right now it's Nacho for his day 2 play.

I had said Chibo was my number 2 suspect in terms of anti-town/scummy play and tells, but his claim makes more sense if he's townie. How I read his day 2 game, he would have had to plan the fake claim from the start and stick with it. It seems like overkill when S_B was already the top suspect going into night. I actually think the Shanba wagon would have gone to lynch alot sooner if Chibo hadn't tunneled. However, he's shown single-minded focus for most of the game that's been anti-town. I don't think he's today's play but he does need to scumhunt without relying on his power role.


@Kirby, Nacho: Why don't you let Pome try and defend her quote? If you'll notice, I put a reason on that same quote in the previous post. I don't know what Socio doesn't like about that quote, but I want Pome to respond to me before we over analyze and give her an out.

[Jahudo]

And when I mean "Nacho's day 2 play", I'm not talking about his vote on Chibo.
The main posts are 392, 409 and 513.

[Pomegranate]

Jahudo: I did miss it. I retract my previous statement.

[Yankee]

Unvote, Vote Pomegranate

Still think EK is scum, but i am willing to lynch Pome today and try for EK tomorrow. Nacho I have been suspicious about for a while, but i have started to think of him more as pro-town as of late....

[ChiboSempai]

Jester doesn't hurt mafia per se, but it's still another faction that can win over them which hurts everyone really. That's what I meant.

As for my suspicion on Nacho, that was legitimate and had nothing to do with the verdict I got. After I found out I was a paranoid or insane cop, I'm not even listening to my verdicts atm. I'm just piling them up each night until I know what to make of them. If I get a single innocent vote, then I can determine everything from what I've gotten so far. However if someone I got a guilty verdict on happens to flip scum, then I know my cop skills are worthless.

[Pomegranate]

Often once a jester is lynched the game continues.

[Yankee]

um, obviously? I mean our game just didnt stop now did it...

[Pomegranate]

I was speaking generally.

[Kirbyoshi]

Pom: And, why exactly is that relevant?

Socio: OK, so first EK was my buddy, and now Pom? Niiice.

Agreeing with Nacho's most recent post, what you did was uber scummy.

[SocioPath]

Socio, is that the only reason for your vote?

Shu Dup.
Its Halloween.
I''m Orange.

Kirby is obv buddy of Pom.

You never actually answered my question...

Twas a holiday. Think of it as an interactive V/LA. Although I never actually GO (officially) on V/LA.

I'm liking these attacks on me for such though. Considering I know which of you celebrate Halloween and which that don't (as a locational thing), and timezone changes.

I voted because Pom comes in and makes silly statements without even READING the thread. So easy to coast along as scum, eh?
I might not have said much, but if I am going to post, I at least make sure to read to make myself not sound COMPLETELY retarded.

Socio: OK, so first EK was my buddy, and now Pom? Niiice.

This is awesome. Tell me where I either said or thought that EK was your buddy.

Agreeing with Nacho's most recent post, what you did was uber scummy.

Aww, thats cute too.

[Kirbyoshi]

Socio, sorry, that was Yankee who said that EK was my scumbuddy. However, you two seemed to agree alot around that time; did you agree with him on that point when he said it?

[Nachomamma8]

Aww... what a cute defense. If you were V/LA, then why did you even bother to post? And if you could post six words on halloween, why couldn't you give us six more explaining your vote, which you still haven't explained that wel...

[Kirbyoshi]

And Jahudo, to answer your question to me in Post 902, I simply meant that scum does a good job of not leaving a trail for anyone; the NK's have pretty much left everyone scratching their heads.

[Kirbyoshi]

which you still haven't explained that well...

Correction Nacho, not at all.