Mini 867- TTGL Mafia: GAME OVER: Roles posted.

Chaco · Post Post #250 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:48 pm

No, that wasn't me. I can prove it, by doing today's lynch.

My guess is Seraphim due to the notes in the vote count. Could be utterly wrong though. Seems like an attempt to put me in more bad light.

But my innocence can be proven easily.

Cobalt · Post Post #251 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:11 pm

MM, what are you talking about?
Chaco, seeing two daykills already, I'm not sure we can trust daykilling as a town-only ability.

Cobalt · Post Post #252 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:13 pm

Oh, Socio was the double voter.

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #253 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:14 pm

Ah, my bad.

When you said "I thought yours would end the day", I had forgotten that he had already claimed a kill.

I'm not sure I agree about Seraphim and the daykill, it's dangerous to jump to conclusions.

Chaco · Post Post #254 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:18 pm

It's just a theory, based off of speculation on the count.

Mine isn't necessarily a daykill, it is an auto lynch. It boosts my vote to count for 1+ the number of players alive, thus resulting in the days lynch. Therefore, not a kill, but rather an auto lynch.

I'm disappointed I had to claim so early, but my inactivity, and lack of content kinda screwed me.

Cobalt · Post Post #255 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:23 pm

Oh. That's an interesting method. Yeah, I think we should use it today.
I don't think Sera did the kill. Why wouldn't he post it in thread? I thought his required that whole giga drill breaker routine.
I don't think the killer should claim though.

Vi · Post Post #256 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:24 pm

Catching up at the speed of snooze.

I'm only now realizing that Chaco has a provable claim and has no reason to claim such a thing as scum (considering the alternative of just

using

it). Post 254 detailing why he got run up to a claim so early looks good to me offhand and does something to counter all the hatred I feel toward his player slot.

Jahudo still gives me terrible vibes. Play is very conservative yet very Town-

looking

, something that I know Agent J is good at but also something that stands out terribly against the other players.

I don't understand the Cobalt vs. MonkeyMan argument re: votes on Chaco argument. Could someone explain it for me?

@mod: Prod/Replace Jebus

He's been prodded and I recall him declaring V/LA. I can't do much about it

Vote: Jahudo

(L-5)

We need to invert our activity tbh. The people who have been posting a lot need to slow down. The lurkers and barely-playing types need to post moar. Yes, I know where I fall in those categories.

Lame post is indeed very lame but my eyes are shutting on their own.

Vi · Post Post #257 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:25 pm

Cobalt 255 wrote:Oh. That's an interesting method. Yeah, I think we should use it today.
I don't think Sera did the kill. Why wouldn't he post it in thread?
I thought his required that whole giga drill breaker routine.

Why?

Cobalt 255 wrote:I don't think the killer should claim though.

Again, why?

Cobalt · Post Post #258 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:25 pm

I saw in another thread that Jebus has some kind of V/LA where he can only post on weekends, or something.

Jahudo · Post Post #259 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:12 pm

I don't like that day kill. A man must always confront another man before he kills them.

xofelf and Jebus are V/LA. I highly doubt Sera's role allowed him two day kills a day. Chaco's real power can make him an unlikely killer here. Monkey and Cobalt look like red herrings from Socio's focus on them.

It's either Yos or snow as they're now pushing the Monkey lynch, who is a red herring and has looked like an easy target all day. Most of his posts I'd put under playstyle (not alignment) tells based on a previous game I had with him. Monkey looks like a mislynch waiting to happen.

Vote: Snow_Bunny

Easily my top suspect now.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #260 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:20 pm

Jahudo wrote: It's either Yos or snow as they're now pushing the Monkey lynch, who is a red herring and has looked like an easy target all day.

...what?

Quite a few people have voted or expressed suspicion on Monkeyman, Jahudo, because he's been acting scummy-odd all game. I find it odd for you to single me out.

Anyway, I dislike that daykill. If there are two daykillers, they're probably not both town.

Cobalt · Post Post #261 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:26 pm

Sorry Vi, I crossposted with you and didn't see your questions.
I just expected that Sera's daykill required him to post in-thread, because otherwise he could have PMed FL or whatever and done his kill secretly. Then he wouldn't have had to claim, and could have conceivably tried to draw an NK or something. I didn't think he would have done it openly if he could have done it secretly.
And I don't think the killer should claim because we already have a lot of role info released. Sera, Chaco, the dead Boxmand and Sociopath. Plus we will probably wind up extracting at least one more claim from someone in the normal lynch process.

Cobalt · Post Post #262 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:33 pm

Also, the me vs monkey voting thing, for Vi.
Basically, MM voted Chaco. I thought this was the L-1 vote and said so. MM agreed and asked for a claim. Later it transpired that MM's vote was actually L-2. MM then posted that he was aware his vote was L-2, contradicting his earlier post saying his vote was L-1. I called him on it. Then the daykill happened and I got kind of distracted >_>

Jahudo · Post Post #263 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:34 pm

Yosarian2 wrote:I find it odd for you to single me out.

You can see that I had already eliminated the other players from my thought process. I was looking for the killer, not all the people suspecting Monkeyman.

However, Cobalt or Monkeyman could be trying to make the other look like the killer. I need to read again and see if that makes sense along with the general timing of the kill.

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #264 (ISO) » Fri Oct 30, 2009 5:04 pm

Yosarian2 wrote:
Jahudo wrote: It's either Yos or snow as they're now pushing the Monkey lynch, who is a red herring and has looked like an easy target all day.
...what?

Quite a few people have voted or expressed suspicion on Monkeyman, Jahudo, because he's been acting scummy-odd all game. I find it odd for you to single me out.

Anyway, I dislike that daykill. If there are two daykillers, they're probably not both town.

It's easy to pin somebody as acting "odd" when they are under the microscope the whole game. Being active early game isn't scummy, lurking is.

I think both daykills are suspicious, myself, I find it odd that you would favor one over the other.

Yosarian2 · Post Post #265 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2009 4:32 am

Of course being active isn't scummy, monkey. I can guarentee you I've never attacked someone because they were active.

MonkeyMan576 · Post Post #266 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:15 am

My point is that I seem to have a playstyle that attracts attention for some reason?

Chaco · Post Post #267 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2009 6:58 am

Well, being active early game can be extremely scummy. There are to many "if" factors there that can change that.

Vi · Post Post #268 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:22 am

At least two of the scum in this game are in {Jahudo, Yos2, one of the lurkers/nonparticipants}.
What's currently bothering me is that I wouldn't mind lynching Snow_Bunny

or

Jahudo; I don't think both of them are Mafia though.

Discuss (and preferably

vote

), since it's more helpful than whatever's going on now.

Cobalt · Post Post #269 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:28 am

Vi, are you satisfied with my answers?
I want to vote snow, but I think she's V/LA. Lemme check.

Cobalt · Post Post #270 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:29 am

She isn't.

vote snow bunny

Vi · Post Post #271 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:34 am

Cobalt 269 wrote:Vi, are you satisfied with my answers?

Yes, at least for now.

Why isn't Seraphim posting?

Cobalt · Post Post #272 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:36 am

sera's last post was last night but he is kind of lurky.

Chaco · Post Post #273 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:19 am

In regards to Jahudo and Snow_Bunny. I'd rather see a wagon on Snow_Bunny. Jahudo, after reading him in iso, has slipped down the list. Snow did something I definitely did not like. After SP had been killed she stated: "I was just about to post and I find with this! I told you SP looked townie with that post restriction!".

Vote: Snow_Bunny

Jahudo · Post Post #274 (ISO) » Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:29 am

My 2nd suspect is Cobalt.
-Lots of posts but not much scumhunting within those posts. Some fluff and nosie posts. More setup and theory related posts that look like he's trying to stay active. But not much scumhunting.

-Cases on xofelf for lurking when she's not the only lurker; Socio for vote hopping, which is a valid point but Cobalt does not have a tone of suspicion over Socio so it looks soft; and Snow, which doesn't give a reason except the implied reason of lurking (he held back in thinking she was V/LA as opposed to lurking).

Vi wrote:At least two of the scum in this game are in {Jahudo, Yos2, one of the lurkers/nonparticipants}.
What's currently bothering me is that I wouldn't mind lynching Snow_Bunny
or
Jahudo; I don't think both of them are Mafia though.

What have the lurkers done that is scummy? Can you restate your top scum reads? They seem vague to me, but this post suggests confidence.