Open 179: B.I.R.D. 7P (Over)

[Toro]

Why the hell you asking me?

[Budja]

Just answer the question.

[Toro]

I'll answer your question with a question.

Are you VT?

[Budja]

No comment.

So basically you do want a claim?

[Toro]

Read Post 127

carefully...

[Budja]

Clear answers are good. Post 127 implies you want a claim but I want you to actually say it.

[Toro]

/facepalm

If I ask if you're a VT then

____(fill in the blank)____

[Budja]

OK,

Vote: Taranski

I'm so certain you're scum now

If so, why would you want me to claim? What does the town really gain at this point?

[saberwolf]

Why are you too pussyfooting around?

TORO DO YOU ALSO WANT TO HEAR A CLAIM? ANSWER YES OR NO, NO REPLYING BACK WITH ANYTHING ELSE. BUDJA WILL YOU CLAIM IF MORE THAN ONE PERSON ASK YOU TO WHEN YOU ARE AT L-1, YES OR NO?

[Toro]

So I take it you are a VT?

[Budja]

I will claim when 3 or more want me to or I am threatened with a hammer.

TORO DO YOU ALSO WANT TO HEAR A CLAIM? ANSWER YES OR NO, NO REPLYING BACK WITH ANYTHING ELSE.

QFT

[Toro]

For christ's sake...

Yes, do you not understand what the question "Are you VT or not?" means? Are you going to claim VT?

[Budja]

Do you understand what yes or no means .

Anyway answer my post 132.

[saberwolf]

OK,

Vote: Taranski

I'm so certain you're scum now

If so, why would you want me to claim? What does the town really gain at this point?

it's the last chance to claim a PR before we lynch you. If you claim a PR role, then we back off and don't lynch you. being NKed as a known PR is better than lynched as an unknown PR.

[Toro]

OK,

Vote: Taranski

I'm so certain you're scum now

If so, why would you want me to claim? What does the town really gain at this point?

To A. possibly clear you if you are town, and B. We can either clear you as a PR or we can clear you as town (once again if you are)

[Budja]

The point I am trying to make is this:

If I am going to be lynched, I will claim. So if someone threatens to hammer me I will claim.
If I am not going to be lynched, I should not claim. Right now I can't see my lynch as a foregone conclusion so I think it would currently be a bad idea to claim regardless of the fact I am on L-1.

If I am vanilla, a claim now would be useless.
If I am not, the scum now know of a PR.

The point of a claim (in an ordinary game) IMO is the last chance to stop the lynch of a PR.
So yeah, to repeat, if I think I am about to be lynched, I will claim.

[Toro]

You're at

L-1

you're pretty damn close to being lynched.

[Budja]

Read my post again. I don't think I am being unreasonable.

unvote

for now. I was not expecting others to have the same view as Saber. I'd like to hear the views of the other player in the game.

[Toro]

What? No one called you unreasonable!

[Toro]

Y'know what enough stalling Budja. Time to play a game, I don't like this stalling.

Unvote

I am giving you

30 minutes

to post your claim, if not

I will hammer.

Have fun.

[Toro]

Seeing how he's not on, I'm going to extend the deadline.

[dramonic]

Yes, let's be rash and overly abrasive, that will totally help the situation.

[Taranski]

claim plz

to whoever asked me:

I think toro and budja are the most scummy. I think this whole claim thing is a lil act from toro in order to distance himself from budja

[Toro]

Distancing? Heh no. Scumbuddies? Hell no. Vanilla Townie right here.

I find it strange that BudJa keeps asking us if he should claim or not, it's up to his own discretion. And seeing how he'll only claim if he feels threatened I'm the one who decided to apply pressure, if he were scum he'd be doing exactly this, stalling and pretty much trying to pass the pressure to the side.

[Nikanor]

Budja is still scum. Budja needs to claim.
Toro, why are you claiming?