Mini 867- TTGL Mafia: GAME OVER: Roles posted.

[MonkeyMan576]

Not exactly standard.

What has socio done that warrants killing him?

[Cobalt]

So it's basically a day-ending dayvig?
Someone familiar with the flavor tell us if this sounds plausible.

[Chaco]

Is an odd role, yes.

He's erratic and hops on everything that moves.

[Cobalt]

Monkey, look at Socio's posts.

[MonkeyMan576]

I did...I still don't think it makes him obvscum.

[Cobalt]

It's 9 pages in, nobody is obvscum. He's a good start, though.
Vi? You said you would comment on him?

[SocioPath]

You placed the vote without mentioning it. I usually see people calling for a claim or something when someone hits L-1.

That is complete falsified lies. Monkey never placed a L-1 vote. Chaco at any point has never been at L-1.

Unvote
Vote: Cobalt

Over eager scum it seems like you may be.

[MonkeyMan576]

LOL, definately a post restriction.

[Vi]

It's 9 pages in, nobody is obvscum. He's a good start, though.
Vi? You said you would comment on him?

Either it's a fake post restriction - in which case we immediately kill him the first time he tries anything funny with it - or it's a genuine post restriction, in which case if nothing else it's entertaining.

At this time I'm on the fence about SP; half his posts are things I can fully agree with and the other half (like this most recent one) aren't. I'm disappointed that he didn't bother to try and confirm whether he had a post restriction; some mods say "LOL you have a post restriction and can't tell anyone" which is neither fun nor works (as in SP should be able to find a way around that stipulation).

Even so offering to off SocioPath purely on the basis of having a post restriction doesn't change my mind about Chaco at all. The only thing that would give me pause is a role in this setup, which I'm intimately familiar with (read: it almost got me lynched regardless of what I did in the topic) and came from a setup that forbiddanlight is not only guaranteed to know about but would likely steal from. (Giant's Mask btw)

[forbiddanlight]

The Sixth "Reclaim" Vote Count

"Now then... I've come to reclaim my helm! That's... what I want to say... Before that.... Put on some damn clothes!!!"

Mod Note: I am now armed with quotes pages. Muhahahaha.

1. Seraphim (0)

2. Jebus (0)

3. Yosarian2 (0)

4. Vi (0)

5. xofelf (0)

6. SocioPath (1)

: Cobalt

7. Snow_Bunny (1)

: Jahudo

8. MonkeyMan576 (0)

9. Cobalt (2)

: Sociopath

10. Chaco (3)

: Yosarian2, Vi, MonkeyMan576

11. Jahudo (0)

Not Voting (5): Jebus, xofelf, Snow_Bunny, Chaco, Seraphim

Chaco isn't at L-1
With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch
Deadline is in 16 days at 1 PM EST, Sunday, November 15th

[Cobalt]

Hmm, the secret voter moved to voting me.

[Cobalt]

if someone could photoshop my avatar to have the TTGL glasses I would love them forever.

[MonkeyMan576]

It's 9 pages in, nobody is obvscum. He's a good start, though.
Vi? You said you would comment on him?

Either it's a fake post restriction - in which case we immediately kill him the first time he tries anything funny with it - or it's a genuine post restriction, in which case if nothing else it's entertaining.

At this time I'm on the fence about SP; half his posts are things I can fully agree with and the other half (like this most recent one) aren't. I'm disappointed that he didn't bother to try and confirm whether he had a post restriction; some mods say "LOL you have a post restriction and can't tell anyone" which is neither fun nor works (as in SP should be able to find a way around that stipulation).

Even so offering to off SocioPath purely on the basis of having a post restriction doesn't change my mind about Chaco at all. The only thing that would give me pause is a role in this setup, which

I'm intimately familiar with

(read: it almost got me lynched regardless of what I did in the topic) and came from a setup that forbiddanlight is not only guaranteed to know about but would likely steal from. (Giant's Mask btw)

TMI.

[Snow_Bunny]

Snow Bunny never answered my question, so something fishy there...

Unvote:
Vote: Snow Bunny

Sorry, which question again?

Snow Bunny is at the top of my scum list right now for lurking.

You do know I was V/LA, right?

I'm getting scum vibes from MM right now, but I still don't have much time to elaborate that now.

About SP, he's not striking me as scum, and the post restriction seems real to me. In general, I'm getting a townish vibe from him.

@Chaco: Why exactly SP as your would-be target? Just because his role, which you guess?

[MonkeyMan576]

Snow Bunny never answered my question, so something fishy there...

Unvote:
Vote: Snow Bunny

Sorry, which question again?

Snow Bunny is at the top of my scum list right now for lurking.

You do know I was V/LA, right?

I'm getting scum vibes from MM right now, but I still don't have much time to elaborate that now.

About SP, he's not striking me as scum, and the post restriction seems real to me. In general, I'm getting a townish vibe from him.

@Chaco: Why exactly SP as your would-be target? Just because his role, which you guess?

Nothing like some OMGUS. Convinent that you had enough time to dodge my original question, but not really answer it, and then were V/LA when pressed, and now conveniently enough you target me, after I've voted you, but you don't have time to elaborate.

Unvote:
Vote: Snow Bunny

[MonkeyMan576]

Snow Bunny never answered my question, so something fishy there...

Unvote:
Vote: Snow Bunny

Sorry, which question again?

No. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that, currently, his action is just a bunch of wifom, and thus nonconclusive for me to lay down a vote.

Way to avoid my question.

What level of conclusiveness would there need to be for you to vote?

And WIFOM is only one element of the case against him. His actions seperate of WIFOM is scummy in an of itself.

[Snow_Bunny]

I don't care if you believe me or not about the VLA. You can check all of the other games, though, and see that I posted the same notice on them.

[Snow_Bunny]

What level of conclusiveness would there need to be for you to vote?

Is that the question? You're voting me for that!? Pfft.

It's not like I am a machine and say "ok, this action reached the level of conclusiveness for a vote". I just feel it, the "gut feeling" most call it, or hard evidence, or convinced by a case, or things like that.

[Jahudo]

@MonkeyMan: Did you think Chaco was at L-2 before you placed your vote? Did you check the vote count and read the posts before you before making your own post? Why did you miss Socio's post?

@Cobalt: Did you check the vote count and read the posts before you before making your own post that said Chaco was at L-1? Why did you miss Socio's post?

You placed the vote without mentioning it. I usually see people calling for a claim or something when someone hits L-1.

That is complete falsified lies. Monkey never placed a L-1 vote. Chaco at any point has never been at L-1.

Unvote
Vote: Cobalt

Over eager scum it seems like you may be.

Valid point. He either missed Socio's vote change or was trying to make Monkey's unexplained vote look even worse. Monkey's agreement that he thought he was at L-1 looks suspicious whether he was paying attention or not.

@SocioPath: Do you still think Monkey and Chaco are scumbuddies? Where does that place Cobalt? Third-party or another scumbuddy?

Socio, if you have a post restriction, I want you to vote me in your next post.

I'm Anti Spiral Void, however, I am town. Think of me as an auto lyncher. I have a one time shot that allows me to lynch a person instantly. If you want me to prove this, I have no qualms with killing Socio.

I can believe the power considering Sera's day kill was also a one-shot, IIRC. You've been V/LA too much for me to get much of a read. And I think you claimed prematurely, but I don't think that was your doing because Cobalt and Monkey both indicated L-1.

At this time I'm on the fence about SP; half his posts are things I can fully agree with and the other half (like this most recent one) aren't.

Can you give examples?

I like his latest post for pointing out the thing that probably caused a premature claim. His no lynch concern might be over-the-top, but he's right to prefer scumhunting over theory talk right now. His pairing of Chaco and Monkey over one post looks premature and reaching, but at least he's looking at them individually too. I haven't noticed his vote hopping to be affected by group opinion, so it doesn't look opportunistic and jumpy at the moment. Overall I get a town feeling on him.

[MonkeyMan576]

Yeah, I'm voting you for that. You used it as an excuse not to vote. But when pressed on why you weren't voting, you don't give specifics. Basically you don't feel that you need to elaborate you views on anything, which is scummy.

[MonkeyMan576]

@MonkeyMan: Did you think Chaco was at L-2 before you placed your vote? Did you check the vote count and read the posts before you before making your own post? Why did you miss Socio's post?

I was aware of the vote count.

[Cobalt]

I saw Monkey's vote, remembered that the last vote count had Chaco at 4, but forgot Socio had unvoted in one of his posts. Counting mistake.
Why aren't we pressuring SP? His post restriction seems to make it close to impossible to communicate effectively. I find it more likely that a really severe PR is faked.
Also, I don't think MM denied placing the L-1 vote after I mentioned it. Then he says he was aware of the VC. So why did he call for a claim if he knew it was not L-1?

[MonkeyMan576]

I saw Monkey's vote, remembered that the last vote count had Chaco at 4, but forgot Socio had unvoted in one of his posts. Counting mistake.
Why aren't we pressuring SP? His post restriction seems to make it close to impossible to communicate effectively. I find it more likely that a really severe PR is faked.
Also, I don't think MM denied placing the L-1 vote after I mentioned it. Then he says he was aware of the VC. So why did he call for a claim if he knew it was not L-1?

I already answered that. You're beating a dead horse.

[Cobalt]

In Post 193 of this game, you tell me you are aware you put Chaco at L-1. In Post 220 you said were aware of the vote count. Which is it?

[MonkeyMan576]

In Post 193 of this game, you tell me you are aware you put Chaco at L-1. In Post 220 you said were aware of the vote count. Which is it?

As far as I know the vote was at level 1. If it wasn't level 1, then I was obviously incorrect.