Mini 867- TTGL Mafia: GAME OVER: Roles posted.


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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:22 am

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Cobalt wrote:If we reached majority already, unvoting won't make a difference.
Yeah, but just for the sake of completeness, if Serephem dosn't die, it'd be nice to see a votecount from the mod specifically saying there's a majority of votes on him and that he's not lynched.

Anyway, if Serephem doesn't die, then my suspect would be either Monkey (for some odd/scummy seeming reasoning) or Chaco (for the reasons Vi gave; mostly lurking). If Serephem flips scum, my main suspect is probably going to be Snow_Bunny.
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:40 am

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Mod: V/LA till Friday at earliest


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In honor of Erika Furudo, my first scum win (Umineko Mafia).
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:50 am

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No, Jahudo, I was going to make a post still. But I didn't like he was hammered before I got a chance to speak up really.

And Vi, I wasn't reading through the game I was off doing something else.
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:04 am

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I'll go ahead and re
vote Seraphim
for FL's convenience, then.
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:46 am

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The Third "Cool Glasses" Vote Count


"ORE GA DAREDA TO OMOTTE YAGARU!!!!!"


Mod Note: Yeah, sorry about that.


1. Seraphim (6)
: Yosarian2, MonkeyMan576, Cobalt, Sociopath, Jahudo, Vi
2. Jebus (0)

3. Yosarian2 (0)

4. Vi (0)

5. xofelf (0)

6. SocioPath (0)

7. Snow_Bunny (0)

8. MonkeyMan576 (1)
: Seraphim
9. Cobalt (0)

10. Chaco (0)
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11. Jahudo (0)
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Not Voting (4): Jebus, xofelf, Snow_Bunny, Chaco,


Seraphim has reached lynch count. Too bad nothing happens.
Deadline is in three weeks at 1 PM EST, Sunday, November 15th
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:47 am

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So, after Seraphim lashing out against the group...they all decide to string him up. However...after some fast talking and a few convincing arguments, everyone changes their mind.


VOTE COUNT RESET, DAY CONTINUES AS NORMAL
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:52 am

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The Fourth "Well, That Was Anticlimatic" Vote Count


"Even if a man dies he isn't killed!"


Mod Note: Yeah, sorry about that.


1. Seraphim (0)

2. Jebus (0)

3. Yosarian2 (0)

4. Vi (0)

5. xofelf (0)

6. SocioPath (0)

7. Snow_Bunny (0)

8. MonkeyMan576 (0)

9. Cobalt (0)

10. Chaco (0)

11. Jahudo (0)



Not Voting (11): Jebus, xofelf, Snow_Bunny, Chaco, Yosarian2, MonkeyMan576, Cobalt, Sociopath, Jahudo, Vi, Seraphim


With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch
Deadline is in 18 days at 1 PM EST, Sunday, November 15th
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:00 am

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This doesn't confirm all of Sera's role to me. I think he still has to earn townieness through his play.
Yosarian2 wrote:If Serephem flips scum, my main suspect is probably going to be Snow_Bunny.
Just to clarify, does this statement apply to both third-party scum and mafia scum, or just one type of scum?

If Sera is in the mafia, Jebus and xofelfs non-commiting stances to the giga drill breaker would be a waste of easy distancing, so I wouldn't look to them first as scumbuddies. Chaco and MonkeyMan's FoS'es were strong enough to lay the groundwork of distancing.

If Sera is town, his early unlynchable claim would have stalled scum's opportunity to suspect an easy target. Only Vi posted before the claim, and it looks like normal Vi behavior (measured logic as scum or town) to me.

Snow_bunnys post 63 looks scummy if Sera is town or scum. The condemnation of a bad play is strong enough to be distancing, and stocked with emotive words that scum sometimes use to come across as naturally concerned about a townie death (same thing as commenting on a NK in a "yay dead scum" or "boo dead townie" manner).

The acceptance of the claim makes sense for scum to be discouraged about losing an easy target:
snow_bunny wrote:though Seraphim's action may seem scummy, there's really nothing to prove his role wrong
Or dropping the issue of his scumminess if there's a trigger to make scum-Sera lynchable.

Vote: Snow_Bunny


I'm still mildly suspicious of Jebus and xofelfs lack of content.
MonkeyMan's overlooking the lynch scene in p58 is lazy but not scummy.
Chaco's random vote doesn't mean anything to me.
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:06 am

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I apologize. I have made non critical mod errors in every past votecount. I will make sure future votecounts are correct
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:18 am

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Really, Jahudo? You think there could be unlynchable scum?
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:33 am

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Not for the whole game, at least. I find it plausible that scum could have something like a 1-shot protection from a lynch or kill, that is either natural or a result of a trigger. If scum are overpowered in that way, there's likely something in place to underpower scum or overpower town again.

Personally, I'm leaning Sera as town but I want him to still be motivated to be pro-active.

I don't expect anything in this setup, but I'm open to nearly all possibilities.
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:42 am

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I find a scum role with the ability to interfere with a lynch highly improbable.
Vi, why exactly would you not vote a claimed SK?
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:03 pm

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Jahudo wrote:This doesn't confirm all of Sera's role to me. I think he still has to earn townieness through his play.
Yosarian2 wrote:If Serephem flips scum, my main suspect is probably going to be Snow_Bunny.
Just to clarify, does this statement apply to both third-party scum and mafia scum, or just one type of scum?
That statement was specifically based on Serephem being in a scum group, and on him being vulnerable to lynch. If both of those were true, then Snow Bunny would have looked quite bad for opposing his lynch for what seems to be irrational reasons. (For comparison, I don't think the way Vi argued against the lynch speaks against him; Vi's posting so far feels more pro-town-ish to me.)

Snow_bunnys post 63 looks scummy if Sera is town or scum. The condemnation of a bad play is strong enough to be distancing, and stocked with emotive words that scum sometimes use to come across as naturally concerned about a townie death (same thing as commenting on a NK in a "yay dead scum" or "boo dead townie" manner).
Yeah, I kind of agree that Snow Bunny looks bad either way. But, for now, I'll
Vote:Chaco
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:14 pm

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vote xofelf

post some content already

Hmm...she might be up for prod now
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:18 pm

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Chaco wrote:@Sociopath: I see where you get your "coaching" idea from, however, that is not the case. I was putting out my idea that we should just lynch them and get them over with. Do you see any problems with this? Why?
Nice red herring. Your focus on me answering that question is odd.
Considering I voted for Sera.
Good way to pull attention away from coaching your scum buddy though.

Chaco wrote:My bad, and by the time I have time to go in depth. . .hammer is dropped.
I have yet to see any depth.

Vote: Chaco
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:22 pm

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Cobalt wrote:I find a scum role with the ability to interfere with a lynch highly improbable.
Vi, why exactly would you not vote a claimed SK?
A scum role that stops a lynch is called a Governor.
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:23 pm

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Jahudo wrote:
Cobalt wrote:I find a scum role with the ability to interfere with a lynch highly improbable.
Vi, why exactly would you not vote a claimed SK?
A scum role that stops a lynch is called a Governor.
Governors are town.
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:38 pm

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According to the wiki, and past games on this site, they can be scum.
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:40 pm

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Cobalt 161 wrote:Vi, why exactly would you not vote a claimed SK?
See my previous comments about having extensive experience with early-game gambits.

@Governors: Governors are not necessarily Town. f-light would know.

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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:41 pm

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EBWOP: But not enough to stop me from a
Vote: Chaco
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:43 pm

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:/ I've never heard of a scum governor.
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:24 pm

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Snow Bunny never answered my question, so something fishy there...

Unvote:
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:15 am

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Sorry.. been busy.... gonna be busy til at least Sunday.

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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:17 am

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The Fifth "Ganmen" Vote Count


"I want another face on my ganmen!"


Mod Note: I'm certain I got the quote wrong. Feel free to correct it. Oh, Jebus and xofelf are prodded now.


1. Seraphim (0)

2. Jebus (0)

3. Yosarian2 (0)

4. Vi (0)

5. xofelf (1)
: Cobalt
6. SocioPath (0)

7. Snow_Bunny (2)
: Jahudo, MonkeyMan576
8. MonkeyMan576 (0)

9. Cobalt (0)

10. Chaco (4)
: Yosarian2, Sociopath, Vi
11. Jahudo (0)



Not Voting (5): Jebus, xofelf, Snow_Bunny, Chaco, Seraphim


With 11 alive, it's 6 to lynch
Deadline is in 18 days at 1 PM EST, Sunday, November 15th
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:04 am

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10. Chaco (4): Yosarian2, Sociopath, Vi
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Hmm?
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