Mini 861: Hellsing Mafia - (Game Over!)

[Albert B. Rampage]

Chill you two.If at all possible. If not, continue.

You haven't seen me angry.

[Netopalis]

Chaco: For the record, I never wanted to enter this discussion....

[Doombunny9]

And you're also not taking your votes seriously unvote vote DB

Yes, I am taking my votes seriously. And I have looked back and I'm happy with my vote of you.

Doombunny, what happened to sABeR? What about Chaco and SSK made you drop consideration of sABeR?

I am still looking at/considering Saber/ABR as scummy. As I said before, because 2 of my top 3 people that I though were scum died (Looker+Amished) I decided to look back and try and find more people who I want lynched. Those people are Chaco and SSK.

Doom. Hey boy, what's up? Why point out SSK and I, when Kanowa has been slipping by this whole game with nothing but one liners? Reason why? You're floundering and trying to push a quicklynch.

Konowa is doing more than one liners. Might want to read his posts sometime. (Although he's sometimes on the border of giving low content posts). Quicklynch? Where did you get that idea? I am in no way pushing a quicklynch. If anyone here is it may as well be you.

Who was on DB a lot yesterday? Amished. Who's dead? Amished. Who did you kill Doom?

Don't forget that once Amished heard my claim he got off me and Forbs got on. Under your reasoning would't it be smarter to kill forbs? (BTW I killed kikuchio

[Shotty to the Body]

You have a night-kill and failed to mention that in your claim?

[Shotty to the Body]

@Neto, why am I suddenly in your top 3 to lynch? You've never even mentioned me before, why the sudden suspicion? After a reread I'm also very unsure of your position on DB it seems to me you're waffling on his lynch and yet he's still in your top three? What happened to your Konowa suspicions why doesn't he make your top 3 over someone you haven't even mentioned as pinging your scumdar before?

[Shotty to the Body]

@Orion, My feelings towards Konowa are pretty bleh, he hasn't posted all that much and he's also just drifting with the easy lynch on DB today and then suddenly lists me as his second even though like Neto I don't think he's ever mentioned me. He cites a pretty shitty reason for it too, I notice he didn't have any issues with my vote until you brought it up. Neutral with a scum lean stands I suppose, nothing really damning, but nothing to make me well up with pro-town joy.

[Netopalis]

Shotty: I didn't say that you OR doombunny were in my top 3, just that you 3 are the 3 candidates who seem to have the most support right now. I meant to do an analysis on all 3 of you, but forgot to do yours. One moment and I'll post something.

[Netopalis]

Ok....Honestly, Shotty, I get a pretty "Meh" reading from you. Could be town, could be scum. In my opinion, the most startling evidence in favor of you as scum is probably the fact that you really didn't say anything until attacked, but have suddenly exploded in postcount - in my opinion, that is a minor scum indicator, but not a major one.

[magnus_orion]

@Orion, My feelings towards Konowa are pretty bleh, he hasn't posted all that much and he's also just drifting with the easy lynch on DB today and then suddenly lists me as his second even though like Neto I don't think he's ever mentioned me. He cites a pretty shitty reason for it too, I notice he didn't have any issues with my vote until you brought it up. Neutral with a scum lean stands I suppose, nothing really damning, but nothing to make me well up with pro-town joy.

do you always judge people relative to their opinions on you? If yes, could you provide links to back that up?

[Doombunny9]

You have a night-kill and failed to mention that in your claim?

It was a joke... And god forbid that I get lynched for it this time. You people are all so serious

[Netopalis]

Ok...Can somebody on the Doombunny train compile a succinct argument against him? I'm really not seeing that many good reasons to vote for him other than the fact that Amished wanted to, and that's not really persuasive in my book. Sure, it's good to know that a confirmed townie was against him, but that doesn't make his opinion suddenly golden...it just means that his opinion should be considered free of scum influence.

[magnus_orion]

If the only reason for wagoning db is that amished got shot, then that's silly. If we lynch based on who is nked, scum can easily control the lynch, because they control the nk. That's why reasoning off the night kill is a scumtell, because scum want us too.
Besides, we should lynch shotty.

[Netopalis]

OK, I read through and found 2 people that caught my eye: Chaco and SSK. Throughout the game they have been posting low content posts and most of them were only one or 2 lines (Not counting quotes). Again I don't have much time to talk but I will read through these 2 peoples posts carefully and decide who I want lynched then.

Vote: MafiaSSK

as a placeholder vote.

Everyone needs to stop voting me on posting one liners. I will continue to do this. I have managed to post content. And you're also not taking your votes seriously

unvote vote DB

Incidentally, I can't believe that I forgot to jump on this.....

3 things:
1) Saying you will continue to do something scummy doesn't make that action less scummy

2) If you want to tell people to stop voting for you, you need to give a reason

3) Your statement that you have posted content isn't really true. You haven't.

[Shotty to the Body]

@Orion, My feelings towards Konowa are pretty bleh, he hasn't posted all that much and he's also just drifting with the easy lynch on DB today and then suddenly lists me as his second even though like Neto I don't think he's ever mentioned me. He cites a pretty shitty reason for it too, I notice he didn't have any issues with my vote until you brought it up. Neutral with a scum lean stands I suppose, nothing really damning, but nothing to make me well up with pro-town joy.

do you always judge people relative to their opinions on you? If yes, could you provide links to back that up?

I don't subscribe to meta, you can go look for yourself if you have doubts. I mention his entire view as it relates to me and to others, not just myself.

[Shotty to the Body]

If the only reason for wagoning db is that amished got shot, then that's silly. If we lynch based on who is nked, scum can easily control the lynch, because they control the nk. That's why reasoning off the night kill is a scumtell, because scum want us too.
Besides, we should lynch shotty.

Still no cohesive argument for lynching me and considering all the other evidence presented you're calling me fixated? Ironic.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Besides, we should lynch shotty.

Still no cohesive argument for lynching me and considering all the other evidence presented you're calling me fixated? Ironic.[/quote]

Aren't you badly placed to make the judgment of this?

Incidentally, I can't believe that I forgot to jump on this.....

3 things:
1) Saying you will continue to do something scummy doesn't make that action less scummy

2) If you want to tell people to stop voting for you, you need to give a reason

1) Posting 1-liners is a playstyle that I can't stand in a full and active game, but its not a general scumtell. Look at zwet.

2) I subscribe to the belief that "if you want to tell people to stop voting for you, you should give them a better alternative".

You have a night-kill and failed to mention that in your claim?

It was a joke... And god forbid that I get lynched for it this time. You people are all so serious

DB, if you committed a little more to what you said, I would have an easier time getting a read on you. Can you stop making lame jokes and back up your arguments more seriously? Like you actually believe them? Thanks.

Time for Wifom:

Who was on DB a lot yesterday? Amished. Who's dead? Amished. Who did you kill Doom?

I do think DB is scummy. I do not think the NK has any impact on whether or not he is scum. If you think so, I consider it a scumtell because you are obviously intelligent enough to know its not a sustainable argument.

[Doombunny9]

DB, if you committed a little more to what you said, I would have an easier time getting a read on you. Can you stop making lame jokes and back up your arguments more seriously? Like you actually believe them? Thanks.

What more do you want? Chaco said I'm scummy because Amished died. I rebutted that arguement. I beleive I did. I see nothing wrong with adding jokes (no matter how bad they are) to the end. By the way, why did the chicken cross the road? To get to the other side!

Also, you're missing this

Ok...Can somebody on the Doombunny train compile a succinct argument against him?

Because I too want to hear good reasoning other than, "OMG he made a joke at the beggining of the game! He's so scum" and "Well he hasn't been contributing to the town in the beggining" But really, who has been contributing much due to the sudden RVS drop.

[Albert B. Rampage]

Number one, I want to see you go after who you think is scum. That way, I can find out if you're inventing things as you go, or if it makes sense to go through the thought process that you did.

Number two, I am NOT on the DB train, although I DID state why I thought you were scummy.

[Doombunny9]

Number two, I am NOT on the DB train, although I DID state why I thought you were scummy.

Missed your unvote

Number one, I want to see you go after who you think is scum. That way, I can find out if you're inventing things as you go, or if it makes sense to go through the thought process that you did.

I am going after who I think is scum. Note my vote on SSK. I would say more about him though if he would post more...

[Albert B. Rampage]

That's a nice excuse, man. Why don't you focus on your 2nd biggest suspect for the time being.

[Shotty to the Body]

Besides, we should lynch shotty.

Still no cohesive argument for lynching me and considering all the other evidence presented you're calling me fixated? Ironic.

Aren't you badly placed to make the judgment of this?

What is your scumdar pinging besides DB right now then? What do you think of Orion/Konowa/Myself/Neto?

[Netopalis]

And why do YOU suspect me all of a sudden?

[Albert B. Rampage]

Besides, we should lynch shotty.

Still no cohesive argument for lynching me and considering all the other evidence presented you're calling me fixated? Ironic.

Aren't you badly placed to make the judgment of this?

What is your scumdar pinging besides DB right now then? What do you think of Orion/Konowa/Myself/Neto?

I asked Chaco a question and depending on his answer and the rest of the game I might want to vote for him.

Konoway and you are tunneling and I suspect you both equally.

I have a slight town read on Neto.

[Shotty to the Body]

And why do YOU suspect me all of a sudden?

Where did I say I suspected you? Guilty conscience much? I simply asked ABR what he thought of you.

[Netopalis]

You generally only ask that if you suspect someone. Why me and not one of the others?