Open 179: B.I.R.D. 7P (Over)

[Taranski]

so guys, my role pm said that I wasn't mafia
discuss.

[Taranski]

AGREED NIKA
GOT EM

vote: toto

guys he's L-1, ain't that scummy of me?

[Taranski]

vote: toro

and shh kid

[Taranski]

How is it a gambit? Everyone should claim to be town-alligned. Dunno who saber is.

lol dramonic's nonvote makes me laugh

[Taranski]

and if your statement is true, then you've also suggested you're a PR in your wording.

Also, I hope this isn't a rolefish attempt.

[Taranski]

There is a difference between playing, and suggesting you are town - - and flat out telling us that your PM states you are "not scum" (that is a flat out role claim - and because you said "not scum" instead of "Vanilla Town" - you also suggest PR).

Are you slow? I roleclaimed being town-alligned... OMG THATS SUCH A SCUM GAMBIT. despite the fact that in order to play to win, everyone has to act like they are town. You honestly believe it's a gambit for scum to say they are town-alligned, that is completely ridiculous.

How can one role fish when you claim to be a protown player and base it off of your Private Role Message? You've flat out claimed.

Also dumb, rolefishng is clearly not fishing for alignment. Are you serious? The point of the game for scum is to pretend to be town! What I did is nothing but a null-tell since it would make sense for both scum and town to make this statement. I don't understand at all what you are getting at.

Hence it's a gambit to do so as early as you have. We either have to accept it and move on (which as scum, plays in your favor) or we challenge it and you screw the town over/are decided as innocent (also screws the town)

It's either a gambit to secure your town identity (whether you are or not)
or a Gambit for town immunity if you're scum.

Wow, so you are implying that because I made this statement, town has to come to an immediate decision as to whether they believe me? Why is this? A statement of this sort doesn't force town to accept that I am town.

I keep repeating myself... I don't see the logic behind your argument, my statement is not at all gambit, nor does it force town to make an immediate decision as to what my alignment is. It is completely a null-tell.

I don't want to comment on you saying i'm claiming a PR because I fear that that would just give away actual tells as to what my role is.

[Taranski]

I "connected [my] alignment to [my] role pm". Point? Still don't see how you wouldn't expect scum to be willing to do this. Yes you are right in the fact that I do not get your point. I am pretty sure that I am on the correct side of this argument, and I am trying really hard to see where you are coming from.

I said "discuss" because I was making a joke. I honestly didn't expect anyone to actually discuss it expect maybe for a joke back.

Why would I specify if i was vanilla town or not? That would have been really stupid wtf.

I feel bad not that you are asking for a replacement because I feel like the argument annoyed you. butttttt all you look like is scum copping out when they know they're wrong and are feeling the pressure. I'd be down for your lynch...

but I mean, we have the rest of the day to talk so I'd rather not lynch you prematurely.

[Taranski]

I kinda wanna hammer. Since I'm the curious type...
Also note that at this point, since it kind of seems like AT is the day's lynch [atleast 5/7 ppl want him dead] than we probably won't get too much deep discussion today...
unless...

dramonic, what was the scumslip?

[Taranski]

budja, you misquoted Toro's second post, that was actually me who said that. And I know it's fairly suspicious to want to hammer right away, but meh iono.

[Taranski]

iono = i don't know
and iono, I just say what I think.

[Taranski]

Who is the play if AT/budja is lynched and flips town?

[Taranski]

well I feel like we are at a standstill and i wanna talk about something

[Taranski]

oh iono how do i answer that question? I'd wanna know why.

[Taranski]

alright. why?

[Taranski]

i dont think tht

[Taranski]

what do you mean recover with?
not voting cuz that would be a fairly quick lynch and discussing more would probably be a good idea. but dunno what to talk about

I should just vote him and hope we're right about him being scum, so than you guys wont think im scummy for asking whose the play if we ML.

[Taranski]

vote: budja

dramonic unvoted...

[Taranski]

town cares about looking scummy too. atleast i know i do. but it usually doesn't stop me from posting impulsively

[Taranski]

XD

dunno what to say to that

[Taranski]

it seems so obvious that it's a toro/budja pairing, surprised budja didn't hop on the wagon.

I always have doubts about people's alignments

I still definitely think that budja is the play. I just wanted to present something else to talk about since it didn't seem like anything was happening.

[Taranski]

claim plz

to whoever asked me:

I think toro and budja are the most scummy. I think this whole claim thing is a lil act from toro in order to distance himself from budja

[Taranski]

wtf toro, seriously? How did claiming disprove the distancing thing at all

i must be missing something here.

[Taranski]

so toro's the lynch for tomorrow

[Taranski]

regardless of his flip, i think yull be the play

[Taranski]

lol
i'm clearly not scum, i already claimed town-alligned remember?
i know for a fact that I won't get lynched tomorrow

[Taranski]

can yu post the flip please

[Taranski]

=D
go town

[Taranski]

quick uneventful game. Almost best case n1 scenario for town. Best would have been the doc successfully protecting me.

gg town

dunno what yu were doing there AT

[Taranski]

and yea, i got really bored d1 with the near guaranteed budja lynch. so i just said whatever. and it came off as it seeming like I knew budja was gonna flip town. I tried to imply that i was a PR in my last post of d1