Open 175 - Picking Simplicity (Game Over)

[Pomegranate]

Scum want mislynches. Wifom confuses town, or in this case convinces some/many players that he is town. Why wouldn't scum want that? I see town as less likely to use Wifom because it confuses the town. Bear in mind that I didn't say that town

don't

use Wifom, just are less likely IMO.

How does confusing people about his role cause a mislynch? And if you agree that town do occasionally use WIFOM, why are you arguing that Iguana is scum for using WIFOM?

Town messes up when a lot of people are confused. I'm not arguing that he's scum solely based off of the fact that he used Wifom, but on the arguments presented in previous posts on this page, mainly presented by Toro, I think. I fell comfortable

FoS: Iguana

. I considered changing my vote, but Nikanor is still scummier.

V/LA this evening until Saturday night.

(Yes, I'm aware it's in my signature.)

Small detail to look at, but why did this especially have to be pointed out

this

weekend if you are ALWAYS V/LA during this part of the week.

I announced it in other games too. Sometimes people don't notice my signature.

[SpyreX]

Hmmm. I really like the attempt Toro is making, although I think its up the wrong tree. Nice and genuine though.

Not surprisingly, I agree with a lot that Iguana says in 363: 12kb and foil don't make sense as scum together. Which raises a question about Hyl's placement.

However, the one thing that isn't really mentioned which surprises me:

@Iguana:

What do you think about the stance(s) Hyl has taken towards you? That's the piece of this that makes no sense and really you not saying anything about it makes no sense either.

How does confusing people about his role cause a mislynch? And if you agree that town do occasionally use WIFOM, why are you arguing that Iguana is scum for using WIFOM?

You don't even know how many times I've been tempted to change my vote, but with Keyblade lurking, he hasn't been around to do anything scummy. I'm not going to consider him less likely to be scum just because he's lurking.

Discounting the fact that you're holding onto a lurker lynch based on lurking on a player that has been up looking for replacement (hence, not lurking, but beting replaced) for a while, I'm not so down with the "Ohh, I'd totally be voting you buttttt" business.

[Iguana]

@Iguana:

What do you think about the stance(s) Hyl has taken towards you? That's the piece of this that makes no sense and really you not saying anything about it makes no sense either.

Mostly due to confusion. I thought he was saying "I dont think that her play is overdefensive and therefore a town tell, but its still townish" it still kind of looks like that to me

[Toro]

DISCLAIMER:

I don't have my notes in front of me atm as I'm currently on a friend's computer, so for me to go back it might be a bit hard to remember bits and details.

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With the points I brought up on WarWound I feel that we could go with either WW or Iguana, but I have a feeling that WarWound will slip up more easily.

@Iguana:

How is WarWound reading town to you? Show me where you've got a town-read on him.

[Col.Cathart]

Sorry guys for absence. Promised post will come after I'll read all the stuff that happened lately.

[yabbaguy]

I *still* adamantly believe that WarWound is newbtown with a social disorder (which explains a lot of how he posts), and I adamantly refuse to hop on his bandwagon. We must never forget past reasoning if there's no reason that it should be deemed obsolete, and right now, I don't see why we should drop our town reads on WarWound all of a sudden.

Iguana tilts scummy now... but again... I'm struggling here putting a finger on it. I'm legitimately frustrated that I'm not able to put my thoughts into words here. Perhaps it's the defensiveness or sarcasm, but ugh, I can't tell.

Interesting how she calls WarWound pro-town...

Its too bad WW is town given his contribution level, but he is town. I would take lurky town over active unknown in an endgame.

...if scum, sounds less like a defending a scumbuddy as much as doing the town a favor by declaring pro-town.

Toro and Flave tilt pro-town now for general good reasoning as of late.

My mind's fried right now.

[Nikanor]

Iguana tilts scummy now... but again... I'm struggling here putting a finger on it. I'm legitimately frustrated that I'm not able to put my thoughts into words here. Perhaps it's the defensiveness or sarcasm, but ugh, I can't tell.

Gut, maybe? Kind of like how my scumsense activates on people with bad grammar, hehe.

[Blastinus]

Bad grammar is just a case of bad literacy, not so much scumminess. But what do I know, right?

Anyway, at the moment, I can't say that anyone's giving me a big read. My vote's still on Keyblade, but I can see where the arguments about Honcho, Iguana, and others are coming from.

My current problem with WarWound's assertion of bad past experiences with Mafia is that he's had plenty of time at this point to see what this board's standard of play is, but he hasn't made much effort at all to step up his game to compensate for it. He's still doing posts of one line, most of which don't have much substance to them at all. At this point, I think he's trying to milk his newb pass as far as he can.

As for Hyl's table of suspicions, I have problems with his placement of Foilist and Dramonic. I'd put Foilist and Dramonic in the neutral area, personally. I don't know exactly why this is, but I've got this feeling that they aren't scum. But, as I mentioned, what do I know?

[Nikanor]

Did you know that discrediting oneself is scummy, Blastinus?
Just sayin'.

[dramonic]

Nik, don't bash Blast too much, you'll drive him up the drapes/away.

[Blastinus]

Sarcastic self-deprecation is scummy too? Geez, is there anything in this game which ISN'T a sure sign that a person has gone to the dark side?

And don't worry, Dramonic, I'm not angry so much as bursting a gut laughing at the idiocy of it.

[Hyl]

soz bizy weeknd brestfeedin, post cum 2maro. stay tuned && DATT iim ouTT

[yabbaguy]

cum

Just like my s cum hunting, I call it as I see it.

[Nikanor]

brestfeedin

You shouldn't be breastfeeding while drunk.

[Toro]

Oh the horror

[dramonic]

I'll laugh when he returns sober and reads that.

[Iguana]

With the points I brought up on WarWound I feel that we could go with either WW or Iguana, but I have a feeling that WarWound will slip up more easily.[/color]

I thought so. This bugs me because you are pushing the easy case. Am I right in interpreting that you think we have the exact same chance of being scum?

@Iguana:

How is WarWound reading town to you? Show me where you've got a town-read on him.

Gut and weak town tells. I explained this once already. We arent lynching him today if I have any say in the matter.

brestfeedin

You shouldn't be breastfeeding while drunk.

Actually more concerning is that his/her gender icon used to be male

[Nikanor]

Actually more concerning is that his/her gender icon used to be male

Look in the Face With a Name thread in GD. He is definitely male.
Unless he's an anti-Zazie. *ahem*

[dramonic]

*shudder at the thought.*

[Toro]

With the points I brought up on WarWound I feel that we could go with either WW or Iguana, but I have a feeling that WarWound will slip up more easily.[/color]

I thought so. This bugs me because you are pushing the easy case. Am I right in interpreting that you think we have the exact same chance of being scum?

@Iguana:

How is WarWound reading town to you? Show me where you've got a town-read on him.

Gut and weak town tells. I explained this once already. We arent lynching him today if I have any say in the matter.

brestfeedin

You shouldn't be breastfeeding while drunk.

Actually more concerning is that his/her gender icon used to be male

From my PoV you two have a very

high

chance of being scum, judging from your play.

[dramonic]

you guys have a harsh case of quote fail.

[semioldguy]

ZazieR replaces foilist13.

Antihero replaces 12Keybalde.

[semioldguy]

Vote Count 6:

With 20 alive, it takes 11 to lynch.

Antihero

(6) – Hyl, Flava Flave, Iguana, WarWound, Blastinus, ZazieR

Nikanor

(2) – Antihero, Pomegranate

Blastinus

(1) – Scott Brosius

zwetschenwasser

(1) – Head_Honcho

Iguana

(1) – Dramonic

Pomegranate

(1) – Col.Cathart

Hyl

(1) – SpyreX

WarWound

(1) – Toro

Not Voting (6) –

zwetschenwasser, Grimmy, YankCane151, yabbaguy, Nikanor, skitzer

Notes:

* Prodded: Scott Brosius, skitzer, YankCane151
* Deadline for the end of Day One is on Thursday, November 5 at 2:00pm PST (Pacific Standard Time)

[Grimmy]

Welcome Antihero and foilist.

Anti, we all look forward toseeing what you have to say as you are the closest on the chopping block due to your predecessor.

Grimmy

[ZazieR]

Uhum?

Unvote