Mini 852- Crayola Catastrophe Game Over (Post 1158)

[elvis_knits]

Twilight Mafia: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=11722

[SocioPath]

It's actually interesting that you agree with the quote from Glork, yet you did vote Chamber.

I was clearly being facetious, given the wording.

Anyway, no, stubbornness isn't always pro-town. You have learned why already and as said, we'll discuss that later. Choosing to not answer a question isn't pro-town.

Quite ignorant of you to say 'I've learned why.'
You really think everyone is clueless about this game other than you?
Why didn't YOU ask what a Jester was and how it already won?

I do post content. My questions show where my suspicions lie and I explain the suspicions behind them as well.

Debatable. Your questions are mostly filler and don't point towards any kind of suspicions most of the time. They are a way to get you out of explaining any of your actions. You can just hide behind the 'asking to know motivations,' but your base point of questions is like coming from a person who has never dealt with any mafia games. The way you go about things is to not lift a finger to do anything yourself, and just ask everyone else to hold your hand throughout the game. Most of your questions that are asked could be very easily answered if you just read the game. Or read the people. You know, how mafia is played. Try to show some insight.

For instance, your Jester question could have been answered by taking a glance at the join dates on the left side of your screen, under the user names. This isn't a newbie game. Most people join THEMED GAMES with the expectation of themes and unusual roles. It would be ridiculous to assume people joining a themed game didn't even have a knowledge of some of the more basic roles, like a Jester. Most themed games usually START at BASIC THEME GAME ROLES (like Jester, Miller, Vig, etc) and then go from there to the TRULY BIZARRE.

The Jester examples are just based around ONE question of yours.
And its clear its not a one-time only deal here.
Although I'm sure you'll go and ask for every example.
Just so you don't have to put any actual thought in the game.

Still #2 on my scum list.

[Pomegranate]

Current scumlist, from most scummy to least scummy:
Shanba
Yankee/Zazie (about equal)
GreenDude
ChiboSempai
Nachomamma8/Kirbyoshi (about equal)
SocioPath
elvis_knits

GreenDude

really

needs to get more thoughts out here... Kirby needs to also, but not as badly.

[Kirbyoshi]

Sorry I've been a little inactive recently guys, that other game I replaced into for Battousai is really time-consuming!

lol Socio, I actually did your "gameplay experiment," and this is what I found:

Oi~
Replacing Chamber. Will read this game now. But I must say that the flavour written and the person killed as NPC are fun and very creative

Simple confirmation post. Nothing special.

Done. Easy read with easy reads on most players.
So here is how it works. I'm two things:
-A stalker (Not for this game though)
-A 'spammer' (Every game in which I'm active)
You'll see a lot of posts of mine soon. Each addressing one post (and sometimes multiple posts). If either your username is mentioned in the quote or is bolded, it's very likely aimed at you. There are a few exceptions possible.

One warning, you don't want to interrupt my spamfest!
And as I have to add the violet everywhere, there's a good chance you will. If you do, prepare for the worst.

Let's start ^.^

Again, nothing really special. Just explaining his playstyle.

So my list would be as follows:
Scummy - SoG, Manzcar and to a lesser extent Budja
Neutral to Leaning scummy: Bunny, Pome, GD and Josh (Need to post more to get a better impression)
Who?: Nacho
Towny: Socio, Kirby and Chibo.


If you haven't posted yet, congratsulations ^.^ You won't be punished as the 'Spam fest' is over now

No real reason to post the last paragraph. Not really a reason to post the entire thing if there was anyone who hadn't posted yet.

As said, if you wanted to respond to it as Manzcar was talking to you. As you didn't, I pointed out why it was scummy to me.

Fair enough.

@Josh - I'm not crazy

Ok, how does this help us catch scum?

Will continue my catching up tomorrow

And then he doesn't catch up the next day.

Vote Pome

Without any reasoning.

At least Shanba sees my point against Nacho.
Also, according to my dictionary:
Sitting - zittingsperiode, vaste plaats in de kerk, broedsel.

Bonus question for our quiz:
Which of these three fits Pome's given definition?
I vote D: None of them

This makes absolutely no sense. Do you have a Dutch dictionary or something? And what does it have to do with the game?

Conclusion: Unlike Shanba, Zazie hasn't really been helpful. Asking questions that don't even relate to the game, and then when confronted, saying: "Well, my playstyle is to ask questions." Like EK said, Zazie is mostly noise, and Shanba's been actively scumhunting recently, so I think I will

Unvote Shanba, Vote: ZazieR,

and I will encourage others, if you are suspicious of him, to join me. I think that from the evidence presented, he's likely to be scum.

[ChiboSempai]

Kirbyoshi, considering most people agree at this point (esp since we're so close to the deadline) that Shanba is likely the best option for a lynch, if we see him as scummy, then what does that make his scum hunting? Obviously not beneficial for us. If he flips town (which I doubt he will), then go back and read what he said and play off of that. However if we don't know what he becomes (meaning we don't lynch) then we won't know if we should hold credit to his "scumhunting" or not. I don't see how scumhunting makes him appear more like a townie, it's something anyone could do, scum or not.

[Pomegranate]

Also, according to my dictionary:
Sitting - zittingsperiode, vaste plaats in de kerk, broedsel.

Bonus question for our quiz:
Which of these three fits Pome's given definition?
I vote D: None of them

Zazie, do we actually care?

[Kirbyoshi]

Chibo, is legit scumhunting really something either side could do? Seems to me it would be extremely hard for scum to do actual scumhunting, seeing that they know already who's scum. Now you're tunneling is starting to bother me, too. Do you have anything to say about my Zazie analysis?

[ChiboSempai]

I actually did enjoy the layout and analysis you did on Zazier. You bring up a lot of good points, and it brings some of his game style into question that's worth a re-read. Surely I've seen everything he has said, but the abundance of questions does sort of distract players from the current or past situation (Shanba case) and could make people believe he's town for actively trying to find someone. I'll have more to say on him soon when I re-read all of his posts at the start of D3, as I normally like to re-read or skim a game whenever a new day starts so I can apply the lynch, reactions, and night actions exposed to the past of the game.

The reason for the tunneling Shanba is because I believe he's the #1 scum candidate for this day, and I have yet to find anyone else that has such a likely chance of ending up being scum. Handle each day at a time, it's clear that from most people we seem to think that Shanba is the play. I have yet to legitimately see a case on anyone else to be "as scummy" as Shanba, so I will continue will focusing on Shanba. The reason why I especially brought it back up is because we're almost at the deadline and I almost feel that since most of the Shanba case occured at the start of the day, people might have forgotten about it and subconsiously moved onto other topics.

[Nachomamma8]

And what if you're wrong? Then you'll have wasted all the nice people's time here, including your own.

[Yankee]

I have a question that will affect my vote. If noone at deadline has enough votes for a lynch, then does the person with the highest vote count get lynched? That is how it is played on the other forum i participate in, but i didnt know about this one. This will affect if i vote for Shanba or not, because it would be best that we at least lynch someone and not just be indecisive...

[Kirbyoshi]

Yankee, on MafiaScum, each mod does it differently, and the way it is played is stated in the OP. In this particular game, the person with the most votes is lynched at deadline, whether it's a majority or not.

[Kirbyoshi]

I still support a Shanba lynch, but since it's in all likelihood going to happen anyway, I figured my suspicions may be better expressed somewhere else. I'd like to lynch Zazie tomorrow, if nothing changes with him.

Shanba: Why do you find GDude scummy? Is it your experience that lurkers are always scum?

Actually, come to think of it, I'll

Unvote ZazieR, Vote: Shanba

. I'd still like to lynch Zazie tomorrow, but I think it's time to put Shanba in a claim position. Yankee, your vote will put him at L-1, which is generally accepted as the time to claim, do I have that right?

[Shanba]

With deadline fast approaching, I'll just claim now, since I'm a VT anyway.

On greendude (from my analysis post):

Greendude has offered a bland, blanket: Shanba is scummy quote with no real backing. He also hasn't offered much content in this game and even when active was active lurking somewhat. Player slot deserves more pressure and is about equal with Budja on my list.

[ChiboSempai]

I'm literally just posting this message to see the timestamp on it to see what time it is in GMT lol, since that's what my forum settings are set to.

[ChiboSempai]

Ok, so ~4.5 hours left, aka ending at 1pm EST

MOD: Mind if we get a vote count either now, or at least at some point before the day ends?

[Shanba]

The vote count on the last page is still accurate as the only vote that moved, moved back. Which means I am still the lynch candidate for today.

As such, I offer up this plea: don't forget my analysis/etc and don't let my death be in vain! Analyse the wagons!

[Battousai]

Vote Count

Shanba (4) – ChiboSempai, Kirbyoshi, Pomegranate, SocioPath
Yankee (2) – elvis_knits, Shanba
Nachomamma8 (1) – Yankee
ChiboSempai (1) – Nachomamma8
Pomegranate (1) - ZazieR

Not Voting (1): GreenDude

Death Scene:

As the day drew to a close, no one knew who to kill

ChiboSempai: Come on people!

Shanba

is the one who killed

Totally Awesome Dude

. She was the one who killed that poor, mentally unstable,

semioldguy

.

Shanba: I wasn't the only one who killed him! As the majority,

ZazieR

,

SocioPath

,

Kirbyoshi

,

Pomegranate

,

Yankee

,

ChiboSempai

, and myself decided to do it. You all have to take responsibility as well.

Kirbyoshi: Ya, but you are the one who made the final decision. You voted last, and thus are guilty.

elvis_knits: It's not

ZazieR

, it has to be

Yankee

. He's been trying to kill everyone today.

Yankee: I'm just trying to make sure that

Totally Awesome Dude

's killer is brought to justice. Unlike...

Nachomamma8

!!!

Nachomamma8: It wasn't me, I swear! But look at the time, it is almost night already. We got to make a choice now. I say we kill

ChiboSempai

!

Sociopath: No, No, No. We have to kill

Shanba

!

And with that, ChiboSempai, Kirbyoshi, Pomegranate, SocioPath take Shanba to the sharpener and finish him off.

Shanba

-Vanilla Townie-

Lynched D2

It is now Night. Have all night actions in before D3 starts.

D3 starts 48hrs from this post (or close to it).

[Battousai]

Night Scene

As the sun rises over the hills of the unmade bed. everyone comes out to see if anyone else has died.

ChiboSempai: Roll Call!

SocioPath

!

SocioPath: Here!

ChiboSempai:

Pomegranate

!

Pomegranate: Here y'all

ChiboSempai:

Kirbyoshi

!

Kirbyoshi: Ya.

whispering under his breath

Kirbyoshi: This is so stupid... you can just look around to see who is here....

ChiboSempai:

Yankee

!

Yankee: Is there another another olive crayon around? No... Just look around, the only people not here are

GreenDude

and

ZazieR

!

ChiboSempai: I'm doing things by the book I found last night...

How to find and lynch a person who has killed your best friend, Vol III

. Now if you'll excuse me, I'll get back to it.

GreenDude

!

No answer

ChiboSempai: Ok moving on...

Nachomamma8

!

Nachomamma8: That book seems oddly specific... here!

ChiboSempai:

ZazieR

!

No answer

ChiboSempai: Moving on...

elvis_knits

!

elvis_knits: Ya!

ChiboSempai: Ok, lets get back to hunting!!!

Deadline for lynch is...

SocioPath: Wait! Don't we need to make sure ZazieR and Nachomamma8 are dead?

ChiboSempai: Let me consult the book....

...
...
...

ChiboSempai: Yep, here it is. "Make sure that anyone missing is actually dead..." Well, let's go!

Kirbyoshi: Who put this idiot in charge...?

All the remaining crayons marched their way towards ZazieR's cottage

Pomegranate: The door is open...

Pomegranate eases her way inside and yells out

Pomegranate: She's dead as well! You'll pay for this, you blasted murderer!!!

Next, the rest of the crayons march towards GreenDude's Gaff.

ChiboSempai: The door is locked!

SocioPath

, help me knock it in!

After a couple of tries, SocioPath and ChiboSempai knock the door in with their shoulders

SocioPath: Hello?

GreenDude

, where are you?

Kirbyoshi: He's over here! I think he is dead!

SocioPath: God! What is that smell!?!?

ChiboSempai: Ugh! That's the whiskey and scotch. He's passed out in a drunken stupor. Let's get out of here!

ZazieR

-vanilla townie-

Has been Sharpened to death N2

Crayons left

2) SocioPath

3) Pomegranate

4) Kirbyoshi

5) Yankee

6) ChiboSempai

8) GreenDude

10) Nachomamma8

12) elvis_knits

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline is Nov 3 at 7:30pm (GMT -5)

*GreenDude failed to pick up his prod, and is being replaced

[SocioPath]

Deadline is Sept 3 at 7:30pm (GMT -5)

Long day.

In an interesting twist of fate, my main suspect is now dead. Awesome. Which means I need to reevaluate everything.

[Nachomamma8]

Vote: ChiboSempai

Shanba was town. Start explaining.

[Nachomamma8]

And whoops, mah bad as far as the whole color think goes...

[SocioPath]

Vote: ChiboSempai

Shanba was town. Start explaining.

My top 2 suspects were also town. Explain that.

[Nachomamma8]

You made a mistake. Chibo was overaggressive, and his incessant tunneling of Shanba was a bit... put-offish. He seemed DAMN sure of Shanba's guilt, and I want to know what went wrong.

[SocioPath]

You made a mistake. Chibo was overaggressive, and his incessant tunneling of Shanba was a bit... put-offish. He seemed DAMN sure of Shanba's guilt, and I want to know what went wrong.

That doesn't explain the vote. Unless its there until he explains. Guilty until proven innocent eh?

[Nachomamma8]

Until he provides an explanation on how his actions benefitted the town, sure.