Border of Touhou and Mafia ~ Game Over!

[dramonic]

She's too experienced for the noob-card too.

I call BS

Unvote
Vote: Zakeri

my vote is swiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinging!

[Xylthixlm]

I'm bothered by that more than a little.

That explains why KMD is too high... but yeah, shouldn't KMD be most town there? I don't even know why I missed that.

[SpyreX]

You would think that not only would KMD be the highest BUT Pesco would have at least SOME neg vibes for the vote on KMD on light grounds.

[Zakeri]

The inconsistency between zwet, who gets "anti-town" for being unreadable, and tubby who gets no such note despite being even more unreadable, bothers me... could be explained by Zakeri expecting tubby to be replaced.

The difference for me is that Tubby at least has the potential to get a read on at a later time.

Also, now that I've revealed my nightactions, it should be obvious that Pesco moves down a slot in my list.

She's too experienced for the noob-card too.

I call BS

Who said I was going to play the newb card?

Seriously, who's up for a Dram lynch?

Also, I'm really loving how people seem to be taking sides between the me/pesco/hulk thing and the Xyl/Spy/Dramonic thing. This will be good information for the townies out there.

[SpyreX]

Also, I'm really loving how people seem to be taking sides between the me/pesco/hulk thing and the Xyl/Spy/Dramonic thing. This will be good information for the townies out there.

Que?

When did Dramonic become part of this tryst (which I think is mostly Hulk/you/pesco pushing on oddly enough)

And.. NOW he moves down? Why wouldn't you have said that when you made your night action claim (which, for the record I never asked for).

I just don't understand. Again.

[Zakeri]

You would think that not only would KMD be the highest BUT Pesco would have at least SOME neg vibes for the vote on KMD on light grounds.

You put too much emphasis on voting targets.

KMD's vote on Zak looks bad. There are far worse offenders for the points listed.

Myself, zwet, Xyl (to an extent), FL, dramonic. The points KMD listed apply to all of us, maybe more people too if you want to count the lurkers.

Yes, he was wrong, and I knew it at the time, but I don't see how the reasoning for the vote is faulty at the time he voted for him.

[SpyreX]

He went: Thats a bad vote because others are doing it too.

This was in regards to:

1.) Your delay in post times.
2.) Your policy lynching support here while being against it generally.
3.) Your saying you've found town but not wanting to give a hit list.

I'm just not seeing how that adds up to Pesco = town for throwing a defensive vote out.

And, for example, lets say I was a cop with an innocent on someone. By nature, I'm going to be more critical of votes placed on them because I know they are town. So, yea, I do put an emphasis on voting targets.

[Zakeri]

And.. NOW he moves down? Why wouldn't you have said that when you made your night action claim (which, for the record I never asked for).

Because I forgot to say that last night. It didn't occur to me to have mentioned that until this morning. Sorry.

When did Dramonic become part of this tryst

First, I'm having a hard time spotting the scum in this game due to the sheer amount of lurkers and an easier one spotting town. I am aware of my following along a player I deem trustworthy (in this case SpyreX) on his cases. When in doubt, I refer to a more experienced scummer, especially if I believe them town.

Fixed. ~Vi

[Xylthixlm]

When did barning become a scumtell?

[SpyreX]

I'm not even sure it IS being used as one here?

Well, its implied but I can't come to grips with whether this is just white noise or a "SPYREX XYL DRAMONIC BE SCUM" business.

[Xylthixlm]

Well, it seems to be being used as the case against dramonic. On the one hand I can see the point about being hard to read; but on the other hand if you're actually confused and lost as town, barning someone you think is town until you get a better handle on things is probably your best play. I've done that myself a few times.

[Xylthixlm]

Zakeri, what's your opinion on Plum?

[zwetschenwasser]

Although: How Hulk make game move.

What Hulk do besides dance with Zwet?

This, not fair critic.

When Zakeri write:

Did you miss post 367?

Spyrex answer "But not enough substance for me to go "OHH SNAP TOWN" But that not the point. Accusation that Hulk not participate in game except "dance with zwet" now FALSE. But Spyrex very scum, very opportunist, look for low battery power for easy bad lynch.

Also, very clear now that Hulk think Spyrex scummy. One reason Spyrex likes keep vote on Hulk?

Hulk I have a neutral-leaning scum read. His play is somewhat reminiscent of Zwet'

This biggest insult in world for Hulk. Make Hulk

VERY angry!!!

Zwet cases in ONE word. All zwet cases is "BECAUSE." Zwet say nothing. Zwet only hammer, very bad in every way. And Dramonic say Hulk play like zwet???

Hulk, too

angry

for words.

ARGH!

HULK SMASH DRAMONIC PUNY LITTLE HEAD.

Oops no brain squish, Dramonic head, EMPTY.

Hulk especially think that Kmd, Spyrex, Xylthixlm, have one scum in it. Lead town to many different wells with poison water and change course many times. Xylthixlm is big spinning top fire random policy lynches, many with strange time. Spyrex buddies for make friends and friends together push weak players off cliffs, MOST OPPORTUNISTIC. They THREE, not suspicious of each other. NO! They look and look, find meek players and make bad cases. But they three players together, so big voting block of badness. Today Xylthixlm posts not bad like posts for earlier days. Xylthixlm now look for scum. Hulk take note.

Hulk add Plum to Hulk town list.

Hulk town list:

Hulk - Plum - Zakeri - Pesco

Hulk scum list:

Spyrex - zwet - Xylthixlm

Hulk much more sure Spyrex scum than other two.

But Hulk need read middling players too. Hulk promise, Hulk do today.

Indeed? Learn how to read, why don't you?

[Xylthixlm]

(I haven't had time to reread lately so I may seem to be jumping around randomly as people quote stuff I find interesting...)

Hulk especially think that Kmd, Spyrex, Xylthixlm, have one scum in it. [...] They THREE, not suspicious of each other.

Interesting that Kmd gets shoved in with me and SpyreX. I know I've said at least once that I don't have a town read on Kmd. And why isn't dramonic in this group?

Also, one scum out of three players = incredibly weak guess.

Hulk town list: Hulk - Plum - Zakeri - Pesco
Hulk scum list: Spyrex - zwet - Xylthixlm

... and here, Kmd doesn't show up in the scum list, despite him supposedly being all buddy-buddy with me and SpyreX. Even more interestingly, Plum, who listed me and SpyreX as her two most-town players, goes into the

town

bucket. I might put this down to Hulk keying off of pushing the policy lynches... but he's been pushing a policy lynch himself all game, on zwet. By any theory Plum should at least be scummier than Kmd from Hulk's POV.

I'm having a very hard time seeing this list as being the result of honest scumhunting.

unvote, vote The Incredible Hulk

[Plum]

Worse post ever! Tubby need give opinion on Mufasa.

NOW!

May I ask why you say this after putting me down as Town but not discussing the case on Mufasa, my current top suspect, whom you've barely mentioned except for putting him down as slightly Town once or twice?

Mufasa, why am I so Town now?

Xyl, my neutralish reads were generally in least scummy to scummiest - I was tired and such, so it wouldn't be an exact science, but suffice it to say that Sotty is on the Town side of neutral and Pesco on the scum side.

I need to process Zak's claimed Busdrive. That means I needed a refresher course on Busdriveing . Hm, makes general sense, as does his point about Dram's claimed follow-the-experienced-guy thing not sounding so hot.

I could definitely stomach a Hulk lynch, but want some discussion of the Mufasa case and also for him to show up and respond.

[dramonic]

Who said I was going to play the newb card?

Nobody, I'm just saying you're not a newb, therefore you'd be aware that KMD is confirmed town by your own word.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Worse post ever! Tubby need give opinion on Mufasa.

NOW!

May I ask why you say this after putting me down as Town but not discussing the case on Mufasa, my current top suspect, whom you've barely mentioned except for putting him down as slightly Town once or twice?

Hulk not look at Mufasa yet but Hulk happy, answer question.

Hulk be very clear, no opinion with Mufasa. Hulk try think first.

Hulk think Zakeri lean town. Hulk say many times.

tubby437198742 not seem pay attention, but vote Zakeri.

Xylthixlm follow Plum footstep, Xylthilxlm vote Mufasa.

Remember! Hulk think Plum town, but Hulk also worry Xylthixlm scum.

So with battery power low, Hulk see Mufasa wagon dangerous to grow.

So Hulk want on record why tubby vote player Hulk think town, and not player Plum make case for scum. Maybe if Mufasa scum, tubby try slow down Mufasa wagon with Zakeri vote, make Zakeri vote at crossroad moment. That tie Mufasa with tubby if Mufasa scum.

Hulk draw attention to Xylthixlm. Xylthixlm vote Mufasa VERY SHORT TIME. Why? Xylthixlm pay lip service to Mufasa wagon. Then not big surprise, Xylthilm go back to OMGUS vote Hulk. Hulk more loud player, say that Xylthixlm scum.

[SpyreX]

But I thought I was the scummiest?

Then zwet?

Then Xyl?

I'm not even mentioned there.

I feel so alone.

[The Incredible Hulk]

(I haven't had time to reread lately so I may seem to be jumping around randomly as people quote stuff I find interesting...)

Hulk especially think that Kmd, Spyrex, Xylthixlm, have one scum in it. [...] They THREE, not suspicious of each other.

Interesting that Kmd gets shoved in with me and SpyreX. I know I've said at least once that I don't have a town read on Kmd. And why isn't dramonic in this group?

Also, one scum out of three players = incredibly weak guess.

That not be true. Hulk think Spyrex scum too, not so sure Spyrex scum as Xylthilxm be scum. Xylthixlm try stop lying.

Hulk think not likely 3 scum hold hand with everyone see. Hulk think buddy group, scum, town, mixed. That normal. All 3 buddies scum make Hulk roll eyes. Hulk think Kmd less likely scum in group. Hulk not able explain Xylthixlm say Kmd not town read. Hulk not genius. Dramonic like little brother that annoy big brother but not part in group.

Even more interestingly, Plum, who listed me and SpyreX as her two most-town players, goes into the

town

bucket.

Hulk think Plum town, why Hulk think all words for Plum be truth?

Xylthixlm desperate crazy now.

Hulk scare Xylthixlm?

[The Incredible Hulk]

But I thought I was the scummiest?

Then zwet?

Then Xyl?

I'm not even mentioned there.

I feel so alone.

Xylthixlm quick Mufasa vote for barning Plum, then rush back vote main enemy The Incredible Hulk scummiest possible.

Make Spyrex look like choirboy.

[zwetschenwasser]

You gonna keep ignoring what I said earlier?

[Sotty7]

I'd MUCH rather lynch Zak. Or sotty.

Then maybe you should vote for me? I don't think I have ever seen someone so gun ho for my lynch without ever actually voting me. It's starting to feel a little screwy.

11. Sotty7 - I don't buy that Sotty is scummy for avoiding the DN wagon. I seen plenty of times where a person on day one would actually pick up on what a bandwagon on a townie feels like and knows to avoid it even as town. It would have been nice if Sotty gave a reason around that time, but the days moved too quickly. Sotty's contribution since the case made on her has given me a townie feel

I totally did give a reason at the time.

I don't really get the DN wagon.

The battery power is going down fast!

Once again, I blame Marisa.

Also, this DN wagon interests me.

unvote, Vote: Riceballtail

Interests you how...?

How we got somebody to L-1 while still on page 3? Doesn't feel a bit rushed to you?

Very rushed. It feels crazy honestly I will be surprised if he flips scum. However you said it was interesting way before he got to lynch -1.

And wow hammer.

Right now I see no reason not to believe Zak's bus driver claim. I have been getting strong town vibes off KMD so I am going to put Zak in my town bracket too. His latest posts have been a lot better as well.

I really need to re-read + maybe even meta Xyl. I keep swinging back and forth on him so drastically I need to try and figure him out. Tubby's lame jump onto Zak makes him look bad.

Will do some ISO reads tomorrow.

[dramonic]

I dont see how the fact Zak says KMD is town make her less likely to be scum. Scum KNOWS who is town, really.

[The Incredible Hulk]

Hulk take minute, add Sotty to town list.

[Vi]

Ran Yakumo, Part 1
An nine-tailed kitsune, and master over Chen. The embodiment of enlightenment, she possesses extreme control over herself as well as extreme power of reason - to the degree of being compared to a computer at least once. "Leagues, columns, digits, and bullets" stronger than your average youkai, Ran's primary use... is spinning like a sawblade and being used as living ammunition. Why? I'll get to that presently.

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Vote Count:

The Incredible Hulk (L-4) ~ Kmd4390, Elmo,

dramonic,

SpyreX, Xylthixlm

Mufasa (L-5) ~ Sotty7, zwetschenwasser, Plum,

Xylthixlm

Xylthixlm (L-5) ~ Pesco47, Zakeri
Zakeri (L-6) ~

Plum,

tubby216, dramonic
zwetschenwasser (L-7) ~ Mufasa

Zakeri (L-8) ~

SpyreX

dramonic (L-8) ~

Plum

tubby216 (L-8) ~

Xylthixlm

Not Voting:

tubby216,

The Incredible Hulk
[size=0]dramonic 0 | Elmo 1 PROD1 9 | Kmd 0 | Mufasa 4 PROD1 6 | Pesco 1 | Plum 0 PROD1 9 PROD2 4 | Sotty 0 | SpyreX 0 | Hulk 0 | tubby216 0 | Xyl 0 | Zakeri 0 | zwet 0[/size]

--With 13 alive, it should take 7 to drop Apollo 13 on someone.

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